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March 04, 2017, 12:18:54 AM
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Might as well just pay an escrow and shipping which will ultimately save me money, time, and hassle.

I'll offer fee-free escrow.

I'm trying to establish trust in this forum. I've used escrow for my own purchases. I'm familiar with the process and can open a dedicated wallet for your transaction and keep all progress transparent.

PM me!

I would recommend that you start out with smaller deals to get established. Jumping right into a $1,000+ deal takes some trust...you need to earn that first.

I cant even get people to send first to me with $100 trades lol
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March 04, 2017, 05:12:10 AM
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I would recommend that you start out with smaller deals to get established. Jumping right into a $1,000+ deal takes some trust...you need to earn that first.

I cant even get people to send first to me with $100 trades lol

Unfortunately with your post history that should be expected.

If you're unsure why I state that, feel free to shoot me a PM as this thread shouldn't be cluttered with explanation of your post history.

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March 04, 2017, 06:07:34 PM
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Apparently nothing on this forum is private and everyone needs to know everyone eles's business, so I will update by saying I will be meeting with buckrogers either tomorrow (sunday, march 5) or monday (march 6) and he will validate the bars are indeed real with some fancy equipment he has. If he doesn't buy them I will ask him to post a vouch for me that they are real.

Since you all know about my business dealings now, I might as well update you in saying I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar. I took a quick shower and fell asleep for a couple hours only to be awoken by my macaw screaming. I am now very cranky and waiting for my barcelona to destroy celta vigo in a couple hours.

I will update you all on my next bowel movement. I am sure you are all concerned.
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March 04, 2017, 06:11:12 PM
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I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar.

Sounds like you went through a McDonalds?  Was it on a biscuit?  Did it come with hash browns also?

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March 04, 2017, 06:17:59 PM
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I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar.

Sounds like you went through a McDonalds?  Was it on a biscuit?  Did it come with hash browns also?

No it was a local deli close to my house. If I had a McDonald's breakfast I would already have had projectile, exploding diarrhea
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March 04, 2017, 10:07:31 PM
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Apparently nothing on this forum is private and everyone needs to know everyone eles's business, so I will update by saying I will be meeting with buckrogers either tomorrow (sunday, march 5) or monday (march 6) and he will validate the bars are indeed real with some fancy equipment he has. If he doesn't buy them I will ask him to post a vouch for me that they are real.

Since you all know about my business dealings now, I might as well update you in saying I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar. I took a quick shower and fell asleep for a couple hours only to be awoken by my macaw screaming. I am now very cranky and waiting for my barcelona to destroy celta vigo in a couple hours.

I will update you all on my next bowel movement. I am sure you are all concerned.

pics on the BM or it didn't happen Smiley lol

Well I'm dr. spock I'm here to rock y'all
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March 04, 2017, 10:34:18 PM
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Would you be willing to use escrow.   Escrow would be released upon verification using a precious metals verifier. 

He wont.

I may meet up with the OP to verify all of the above, it seems a lot of people jump right in and assume the worst which is the norm these days with all of the previous scam attempts that have happened here.

Hopefully we can put this to rest, and if the seller is legit, then hes legit.
done.

I have sent him a PM and will hopefully make a purchase.

If anyone wants to buy something after its confirmed id be happy to reship and you can use escrow with a trusted one of the usual suspects Smiley

I dont need to make any money from this, its a service.

thanks!

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.
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March 04, 2017, 10:34:18 PM
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I miss egg sandwiches from NY deli's so so much....

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March 04, 2017, 10:55:17 PM
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I miss egg sandwiches from NY deli's so so much....

and pizza, and bagels!
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March 04, 2017, 10:58:47 PM
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I miss egg sandwiches from NY deli's so so much....

I dont see why we had to know your personal thoughts on that, wouldnt that be more better in a PM
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March 04, 2017, 11:14:58 PM
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I miss egg sandwiches from NY deli's so so much....

I dont see why we had to know your personal thoughts on that, wouldnt that be more better in a PM

I am quickly learning there is no privacy or trust in this forum and that most of the members are cranky. Every private conversation I have had has been reposted in the associated thread anyway. Plus, New York food deli food, pizza, and bagels are something that must be spread throughout the world. And for you non- New Yorkers, pizza hut and dominos is as much real pizza as taco bell is real mexican food

I will hopefully still get together with buckrogers tomorrow (sunday, march 5) to verify those bars.
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March 04, 2017, 11:24:52 PM
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Would you be willing to use escrow.   Escrow would be released upon verification using a precious metals verifier. 

He wont.

I may meet up with the OP to verify all of the above, it seems a lot of people jump right in and assume the worst which is the norm these days with all of the previous scam attempts that have happened here.

Hopefully we can put this to rest, and if the seller is legit, then hes legit.
done.

I have sent him a PM and will hopefully make a purchase.

If anyone wants to buy something after its confirmed id be happy to reship and you can use escrow with a trusted one of the usual suspects Smiley

I dont need to make any money from this, its a service.

thanks!

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.

So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!

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Would you be willing to use escrow.   Escrow would be released upon verification using a precious metals verifier.  

He wont.

I may meet up with the OP to verify all of the above, it seems a lot of people jump right in and assume the worst which is the norm these days with all of the previous scam attempts that have happened here.

Hopefully we can put this to rest, and if the seller is legit, then hes legit.
done.

I have sent him a PM and will hopefully make a purchase.

If anyone wants to buy something after its confirmed id be happy to reship and you can use escrow with a trusted one of the usual suspects Smiley

I dont need to make any money from this, its a service.

thanks!

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.

So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!

There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it (for the most part).
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March 04, 2017, 11:59:11 PM
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thanks!
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The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.
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So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!
[/quote]

There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it.
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I would imagine you can find the total weight for both the bar and package in the sealed bars and coins. For instance, an NGC slab that holds an american eagle is 40 grams. In terms of the multiple tests, I am pretty much clueless. I would imagine there is some type of electronic scanner that can measure density and purity.
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March 05, 2017, 03:22:16 AM
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thanks!

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.
[/quote]

So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!
[/quote]

There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it.
[/quote]

I would imagine you can find the total weight for both the bar and package in the sealed bars and coins. For instance, an NGC slab that holds an american eagle is 40 grams. In terms of the multiple tests, I am pretty much clueless. I would imagine there is some type of electronic scanner that can measure density and purity.

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There are many tests you can perform without touching the actual metal Smiley

Through a slab, etc. If you aren't aware, GIYF Smiley

But hopefully I will be able to meet up with the OP to see, although OP, you haven't replied to my last few messages??? so who knows.

Thanks!

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You can XRF test gold bars through the certicard, no need to remove the packaging to establish authenticity.
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March 05, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
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You can XRF test gold bars through the certicard, no need to remove the packaging to establish authenticity.

Well i contacted the seller/OP late last night and it's about 10:15 am here, and suggested a time and place to meet, I have not gotten a reply back yet. and I suggested to meet around noon today in less than 2 hours from now.

If I dont get any sort of reply, within the hour, I will simply mark this off as a no show and move on with my day.

You can deal at your own risk.

Thanks!

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March 05, 2017, 03:51:40 PM
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I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar.

Sounds like you went through a McDonalds?  Was it on a biscuit?  Did it come with hash browns also?

No it was a local deli close to my house. If I had a McDonald's breakfast I would already have had projectile, exploding diarrhea

"Local deli close to my house" explains it. The best move at McDonald's is the sausage egg and cheese sandwich!

and pizza, and bagels!

And pizza bagels! Those are the best of both worlds.

It's hard to get a good bagel where I'm at...and a chicken finger sub.
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March 05, 2017, 04:12:43 PM
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OK,

So it's been an hour and I am not going to hear back from this newbie or I would have already.

I will NOT be meeting him today or any other day for that matter, as I dont have time for games.

It is apparent to me that he had plenty of time and opportunity to view my messages and reply with at least some lame excuse why he can't make the meeting in less than 1 hour from now.

It seems he only replies when I post in the main thread as well.

I am moving on with my day.

So good luck with anyone wanting to buy from this person.

I will not be verifying any of these items, so buyer beware, and factor in your own risk.

I am washing my hands from this, and was simply doing this as as service for the community.

thanks!

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When I get home later I will happily post my proof of purchase and the other 2 serial numbers. I just wanted to get the post up and hopefully some interest. I will, however, scratch out my name from the receipt as I'm not one to post my name on a public forum for the world to see.


Yeah, you never did post this either. Also, don't get so wound up by people asking questions if you're going to post in the trading forum.. especially if you're selling expensive gold bars that have plenty of counterfeits in circulation.

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