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December 21, 2010, 09:00:47 PM
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Ad supported software has it's place, but not on my hardware.  Only open source software qualifies for my bounty contribution.

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December 22, 2010, 12:44:22 AM
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1740 BTC is not enough for you?

that's about $400... that's a measly amount for work like this that'd take time.
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December 22, 2010, 04:11:55 AM
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that's about $400... that's a measly amount for work like this that'd take time.
Sure, but people can reasonably add conditions to their bounties that require FOSS attributes.

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December 22, 2010, 05:55:47 AM
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that's about $400... that's a measly amount for work like this that'd take time.
Sure, but people can reasonably add conditions to their bounties that require FOSS attributes.

Read the quote I was quoting. It was the person saying whether $400 isn't enough. Hint: it isn't, unless you want to do it & the $400 is a bonus. This is a perfectly doable task but would take quite a while to do to perfection (which personally if I'm taking people's money then I do want to). Grin
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December 22, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
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cdecker: I hate ads in Android apps, how about a paid client?
I see some interesting possibilities here. What if the app would transfer a small fraction of a bitcoin to Cdecker, once for every day in which the user made a transfer? Or perhaps, users could send, with the app, a certain amount to Cdecker and in doing so disable the ads?
Oh please no!
Automatically stealing a few cents per transaction would start the whole mess about the puddinpop cuda client again, don't worry I'll probably stick to opensourcing the core and make an ad based Frontend and give people the option to disable the ads by sending me a few coins :-)

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January 08, 2011, 03:05:20 AM
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My js-remote is fully working on Android and supports local transactions by displaying QR codes on the phone and scanning them with the camera. It's also possible to display QR codes on a computer and send Bitcoins to it from a phone.

Does this qualify for the bounty?
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January 08, 2011, 03:27:36 AM
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Does this qualify for the bounty?

I like your solution (but didn't tested it on phone yet). Unfortunately current version is still unusable because nobody will open own bitcoind RPC to internet and send plain username/password over it. I don't know how difficult is to add SSL layer, but once this will be solved somehow, my 50BTC is yours.

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January 08, 2011, 03:33:21 AM
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SSL works in theory. In practice, there's either a bug in browsers or bitcoind that prevents a reliable connection. I hope to resolve that within the next days.
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January 08, 2011, 03:40:34 AM
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SSL works in theory. In practice, there's either a bug in browsers or bitcoind that prevents a reliable connection. I hope to resolve that within the next days.

Great, then I send you the rest of my bounty.

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January 08, 2011, 10:38:00 AM
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Wait a second, I thought this is about a full implementation of Bitcoin on top of Android and not some remoting. I'm implementing the whole stack in Java for a native Bitcoin app.

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January 08, 2011, 10:53:29 AM
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Wait a second, I thought this is about a full implementation of Bitcoin on top of Android and not some remoting. I'm implementing the whole stack in Java for a native Bitcoin app.

Personally I prefer remote solution because I don't want to have my coins on mobile phone for security reasons. So handling wallet + QR codes are enough for me and I want to support this solution. This does not mean I won't pay you for full Android stack, too.

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January 08, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
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Wait a second, I thought this is about a full implementation of Bitcoin on top of Android and not some remoting. I'm implementing the whole stack in Java for a native Bitcoin app.

Personally I prefer remote solution because I don't want to have my coins on mobile phone for security reasons. So handling wallet + QR codes are enough for me and I want to support this solution. This does not mean I won't pay you for full Android stack, too.
Good point, I'm using the Android BackupManager to save and restore the wallet once it's implemented, so keeping things on a phone wont be too risky, just restore and transfer to another account :-)

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January 08, 2011, 01:27:59 PM
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Wait a second, I thought this is about a full implementation of Bitcoin on top of Android and not some remoting.

You can run bitcoind on the phone. This even makes your wallet compatible with the desktop version.
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January 08, 2011, 05:15:15 PM
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What about talking with the developer for this project to see about adding Bitcoin functionality to what he's got going on?

http://timothyjc.blogspot.com/2010/12/wallet-for-android.html
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January 08, 2011, 07:54:09 PM
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What about talking with the developer for this project to see about adding Bitcoin functionality to what he's got going on?

http://timothyjc.blogspot.com/2010/12/wallet-for-android.html

Feel free, but I doubt that they are comparable tech.

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- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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January 08, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
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The most important thing to come out of this won't be an android bitcoin client but a (hopefully less opaque) reference implementation of the bitcoin protocol, from which a bunch of different clients could potentially be built.

I'm also working on a java bitcoin stack. Let a thousand flowers bloom.
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January 09, 2011, 12:10:44 AM
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Added SSL support to js-remote using a little server script.
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January 09, 2011, 01:15:31 AM
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You can just transfer a few bitcoins (as you see fit) to your phone wallet.
If your phone is stolen with saved credentials (which probably many will use) you're screwed even more

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January 09, 2011, 01:24:59 AM
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The most important thing to come out of this won't be an android bitcoin client but a (hopefully less opaque) reference implementation of the bitcoin protocol, from which a bunch of different clients could potentially be built.

I'm also working on a java bitcoin stack. Let a thousand flowers bloom.
Interested in comparing notes,  I would love to see your approach to it :-)

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January 10, 2011, 04:19:32 PM
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tcatm's bitcoin-js-remote met all of my bounty conditions. I just paid him the full 800 BTC + 200 bonus for using QR codes.

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