ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion!

[CrazyGuy]

Did all auction winners end up paying? I've got my batch #2 Avalon listed in goods at >40% off BlockErupter winning price with no bites from anyone, including those that bid over 42BTC but did not win. Seems like they would be all over a deal like that. I'd have to agree that this sale smells a little fishy.

[romerun]

avalon batch #2 is 500btc+ as of now. The blade thing is 7 time less cheap, yet only 6.5 time less H. And you can have it right now. Instead it smells fishily delicious.

[CrazyGuy]

avalon batch #2 is 500btc+ as of now. The blade thing is 7 time less cheap, yet only 6.5 time less H. And you can have it right now. Instead it smells fishily delicious.

I'm selling mine for 300BTC. That is >=6.7 times the hashing power of the erupters for just 4 times the price. Much better deal, but no one seems to be interested yet. I'm also offering escrow through a reputable member with coins returned in the event of a prolonged Avalon delay for a higher price(still 11% lower than the erupter auction sale)

[JimiQ84]

avalon batch #2 is 500btc+ as of now. The blade thing is 7 time less cheap, yet only 6.5 time less H. And you can have it right now. Instead it smells fishily delicious.

I'm selling mine for 300BTC. That is >=6.7 times the hashing power of the erupters for just 4 times the price. Much better deal, but no one seems to be interested yet. I'm also offering escrow through a reputable member with coins returned in the event of a prolonged Avalon delay for a higher price(still 11% lower than the erupter auction sale)

Do you have your Avalon with you? How long before it gets shipped?

[CrazyGuy]

avalon batch #2 is 500btc+ as of now. The blade thing is 7 time less cheap, yet only 6.5 time less H. And you can have it right now. Instead it smells fishily delicious.

I'm selling mine for 300BTC. That is >=6.7 times the hashing power of the erupters for just 4 times the price. Much better deal, but no one seems to be interested yet. I'm also offering escrow through a reputable member with coins returned in the event of a prolonged Avalon delay for a higher price(still 11% lower than the erupter auction sale)

Do you have your Avalon with you? How long before it gets shipped?

It's batch 2, so it's not in hand, but I've come up with a method to handle that. Price starts at 450, once buyer commits, price decreases 25BTC per week until unit is shipped from Avalon(more or less what you would make mining with the device) I will request John the Dog for escrow.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183598.0

[shibaji]

I will request John the Dog for escrow.

 

John the Dong will be amused.

[CrazyGuy]

I will request John the Dog for escrow.

 

John the Dong will be amused.

I have seen him referenced that way but thought it surely was a typo, given his forum avatar... My apologies Mr. Dong! I've sent him a PM with escrow request.

I'd like to reiterate that the buyer who purchases my Batch 2 Avalon will be effectively mining on day 1 at 3.57 BTC per day with no difficulty increase. If the price goes down to 300 BTC(6 week delay from Avalon), you will have the option to cancel or wait it out at 300BTC.

[friedcat]

The following auctions of blades will be after the collection of the feedback and (possibly) the modification and improvement of the design/manufacturing. But before that there will be auctions of USB sticks as soon as they are available. Shipping will also be immediate.

The users of the first round of auction are granted a free upgrade option to the blades of the improved design with the timescale the same as the free replacement warranty.

[Wesly]

I find it amusing as well as sorry for the poor Avalon Batch #2 customers who paid 5 times less for ASIC machines that can do 6 times the hash rate of ASICMINER Erupter Blades.  Hmm..  I wonder who will be better off 2 months from now?

I find it rather amusing that asicminer customers will have their erupter blades sooner than Avalon batch #2 customers will have their Avalons, which have been ordered in february  

[Inspector 2211]

I find it amusing as well as sorry for the poor Avalon Batch #2 customers who paid 5 times less for ASIC machines that can do 6 times the hash rate of ASICMINER Erupter Blades.  Hmm..  I wonder who will be better off 2 months from now?

I find it rather amusing that asicminer customers will have their erupter blades sooner than Avalon batch #2 customers will have their Avalons, which have been ordered in february  

This.

[Rampion]

I'm interested to see if these will pay off or not.  76 BTC seems like so much to me.  Best of luck to you investors.

i think these guys are betting on BTC in the future is worth more than BTC right now...

In which case the 75 BTC would be worth more as well...

Yes, but the value of 75BTC @ 19th April (when i exchanged cash for BTC) != value of 75BTC @ 1st September.

So just keep your 75BTC until 1st September

If the difficulty grows as projected, those blades will breakeven at best, thus if you think BTC price will rise just hold on your BTC

Simple logic and common sense.

[Rampion]

Did all auction winners end up paying? I've got my batch #2 Avalon listed in goods at >40% off BlockErupter winning price with no bites from anyone, including those that bid over 42BTC but did not win. Seems like they would be all over a deal like that. I'd have to agree that this sale smells a little fishy.

The difference: blades were immediately available - in fact they have been already shipped. Avalon batch #2... Who knows when it will arrive?

Having the unit on hand makes a HUGE difference.

[Bitsaurus]

Did all auction winners end up paying? I've got my batch #2 Avalon listed in goods at >40% off BlockErupter winning price with no bites from anyone, including those that bid over 42BTC but did not win. Seems like they would be all over a deal like that. I'd have to agree that this sale smells a little fishy.

The difference: blades were immediately available - in fact they have been already shipped. Avalon batch #2... Who knows when it will arrive?

Having the unit on hand makes a HUGE difference.

Yes 10GH/s will get you 0.5BTC today and for the next 5 days, then 0.4 for 10 days, then 0.3 and so on.  It will have a head start but when it can only make 0.5 BTC to start off, when difficulty is 5x it will make only 0.1/day - one might be holding their breathe waiting for ROI.

I guess it all depends on whether you trust the network to lay low for a month.

[JimiQ84]

also, how many bitcoins will you have if you bought them in february instead of buying Avalon #2?

[JimiQ84]

first unit has been delivered. Paid on saturday, delivered on tuesday. Incredible.

[seleme]

You just have to look at the original Asicminer thread and you'll see all those that invested in AM care about is Asicminer shares, they'd mess with complete bitcoin network hashrate and decentralization just to receive 0.001 btc bigger dividend and see their share be worth few bitcents more.

 If you own load of AM shares that gained 1 BTC in value overnight after blades and USB announcement  and blades auction stuff, you won't mind spending 75 BTC for nowehere close worth product just to pump those prices.

Friedcat, do the right stuff, get rid off auction bullshit, find a real, realistic price for your products and sell them on fixed price like any serious manufacturer does.

This stuff can just hurt the image of your company. If you follow the greed of your shareholders you'll find yourself doomed at some moment soon or later.

[sunblaster]

You just have to look at the original Asicminer thread and you'll see all those that invested in AM care about is Asicminer shares, they'd mess with complete bitcoin network hashrate and decentralization just to receive 0.001 btc bigger dividend and see their share be worth few bitcents more.

 If you own load of AM shares that gained 1 BTC in value overnight after blades and USB announcement  and blades auction stuff, you won't mind spending 75 BTC for nowehere close worth product just to pump those prices.

Friedcat, do the right stuff, get rid off auction bullshit, find a real, realistic price for your products and sell them on fixed price like any serious manufacturer does.

This stuff can just hurt the image of your company. If you follow the greed of your shareholders you'll find yourself doomed at some moment soon or later.

As much as I wish that was true, a business is in business to maximize a profit, I don't know what their manufacturing capabilities are, but I guess it's not 1000 of units a month, so auctioning off units that are IN STOCK makes sense from maximizing profit prospective. Although it does suck for everyone who wants one.

Believe me if they had 1000s of blades sitting on the shelve there wouldn't be an auction.

PS: NOTE about delivery from China, as you see it can be super fast. I recall I bought a computer three months ago and it arrived from Hong Kong in 3 days via DHL to Canada, and shipping was $90.

[CrazyGuy]

Did all auction winners end up paying? I've got my batch #2 Avalon listed in goods at >40% off BlockErupter winning price with no bites from anyone, including those that bid over 42BTC but did not win. Seems like they would be all over a deal like that. I'd have to agree that this sale smells a little fishy.

The difference: blades were immediately available - in fact they have been already shipped. Avalon batch #2... Who knows when it will arrive?

Having the unit on hand makes a HUGE difference.

Yes 10GH/s will get you 0.5BTC today and for the next 5 days, then 0.4 for 10 days, then 0.3 and so on.  It will have a head start but when it can only make 0.5 BTC to start off, when difficulty is 5x it will make only 0.1/day - one might be holding their breathe waiting for ROI.

I guess it all depends on whether you trust the network to lay low for a month.

Yes, but the buyer of my batch 2 unit starts mining on day 1 of their purchase. I am taking 25BTC off final purchase price per week Avalon delays shipment after buyer commits. The buyer is effectively mining at > 3.5 BTC per day until Avalon ships. This is a much better deal.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183598.0

[shmadz]

also, how many bitcoins will you have if you bought them in february instead of buying Avalon #2?

56.82106592 BTC

just a guess

[alexuk]

Update

Just found out that the package is being held at the delivery centre @ DHL pending payment of customs duty feeds of approx £35

Going over there today to pick it up, pay the fees, and bring it home.