Moneypot Top 5 of the most populated Apps in 2016

[JackpotRacer]

Hello @all

please take the Poll serious or just don't participate. please don't spam the thread with stupid comments against Jackpotracer or just to show your sig. we will delete sig spam postings and you are welcome to open your own thread

we are asking for the Top 5 (each user has 5 votes) of which MP Apps were in 2016 populated 24/7 with min 10 users or more on a daily basis? as far as I know MP has 1000+ Apps and please correct if I am wrong

we will start with the 12 Featured Apps and add some more nice and interesting apps that are not featured

if there is one app owner who thinks that we forgot to post his app and it deserves to be in the top 5 please let us know and we will add it
and we apologize in advance if we forgot it

actually the reason we are doing this Poll is to show to @Dogedigital and his fellow MP owners that our app was doing more than fine customer wise and not like @Dodedigital wants to make to believe us that our App did not work out for us  

@Dogedigital MP owner wrote to me the following in a discussion in their MP thread

I'm sorry your app did not work out for you.......................
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737934.msg18037973#msg18037973

and I asked him if he is for real or he lives in a world of make-believe cause our app was out of 1000+ MP Apps one of the most populated MP Apps in 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737934.msg18039998#msg18039998

IMHO my guess is
1st was Bit-Exo
2nd was BetterBets
3rd was Jackpotracer
4th No app had 10+users 24/7 online
5th  "                    "             "
and so on

but lets see what the Poll will tell

it should be an easy and quick Poll to show that we are right and we were under the Top 5 if there were 5 apps populated in a 24/7 basis with 10+ users. I personally doubt it that there were more than 3 apps

we could also do a Poll and ask the same question for 2017 and my guess is that we will see in the Top 5 only 2 apps
1st Bit-Exo
2nd Betterbets

no 3rd and so on and why are we not on 3rd rank cause we had to close our best games namely the Dust Lottery and our Jackpot Racer game

thx

JPR Team

*I apologize for my bad english

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[debuni]

1) Bit-Exo - working on a lot of inovations like their latest Slot & Go poker touenament.
2) Betterbets.io
3) DonutBit - unsuccessful, but a nice try
4) BubblesBit - I like the conception and their past promos.
5) Jackpot Racer - I like your promos

In general, MP apps are just copy/paste. The difference come from support and promotions.

[superiorus]

I see many of these are not active, or the websites are offline ...

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/529-wheelpot
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/47-luckybit-micro
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/55-plinkopot
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/2286-donutbit

[JackpotRacer]

1) Bit-Exo - working on a lot of inovations like their latest Slot & Go poker touenament.
2) Betterbets.io
3) DonutBit - unsuccessful, but a nice try
4) BubblesBit - I like the conception and their past promos.
5) Jackpot Racer - I like your promos

In general, MP apps are just copy/paste. The difference come from support and promotions.

thx for your comments

please be aware that the Poll is for most populated apps in 2016 and not which a user likes best. maybe we will do a Poll after this one which MP App users like most

good luck

[JackpotRacer]

I see many of these are not active, or the websites are offline ...

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/529-wheelpot
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/47-luckybit-micro
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/55-plinkopot
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/2286-donutbit

hi

if you check the stats you see that wheelpot for example was active a few hours ago

Plinko Pot yes I agree it is closed as it looks like (owned by MP)

DonutBit is offline as all sweepers are off line cause socketpot is dead and MP did not fix it yet ( not sure if they will fix it cause it is for long time not working)

LuckyBit is reachable for me

[BTCevo]

1. Betterbets, seems like to be their core since from the start, they have really huge wagered amount and keep it like that until today
2. Bit-exo, the most progressive site ever
3. Jackpotracer, the best lottery ever but never been accepted from the start and after someone wins big, site is rained by many issues
4. Bubblesbit
5. Dustdice

For bubblesbit and dustdice i am not really sure and their games has less attraction for people but still give huge wagered after all

[JackpotRacer]

1. Betterbets, seems like to be their core since from the start, they have really huge wagered amount and keep it like that until today
2. Bit-exo, the most progressive site ever
3. Jackpotracer, the best lottery ever but never been accepted from the start and after someone wins big, site is rained by many issues
4. Bubblesbit
5. Dustdice

For bubblesbit and dustdice i am not really sure and their games has less attraction for people but still give huge wagered after all

hi BTCevo

thx for your comments and vote nd you are spot on with your comments but please be aware that the Poll is not for the most wagered App but we might do a Poll next time for most wagered app

good luck wherever you lay your coins

[piloder]

I have played many times in jackpot racer and i really liked their dust lottery but sad to know they no longer have it due to moneypot policy. I can still remember a guy winning so much bitcoins with just few satoshis, he was really lucky. 

[ralle14]

My votes go to these moneypot apps
Betterbets
Bit-Exo
JackpotRacer
Only voted for these 3 because imo the others were like above 5 users but didn't pass 10 users on a daily basis.
I played on these sites a couple times and always see a lot of people gambling on these apps than any other apps.

[panjul07]

In case of which sites that I like then I vote for betterbets and jackpotracer only as on I played more on these two sites rather than other moneypot apps. But in case of "most populated" then I can say that bit-exo can be the first then JPR/betterbets for the 2nd place.

[marlboroza]

My vote goes to seuntjie dice bot.
Very useful thing to mix some strategies 

[JackpotRacer]

My vote goes to seuntjie dice bot.
Very useful thing to mix some strategies 

thx for your comment and vote but this Poll is not for the App you like most but it is which app was most populated in a 24/7 daily basis

cheers

[JackpotRacer]

In case of which sites that I like then I vote for betterbets and jackpotracer only as on I played more on these two sites rather than other moneypot apps. But in case of "most populated" then I can say that bit-exo can be the first then JPR/betterbets for the 2nd place.

Hi Panjul07

thx for your vote and kind words

Betterbets has the lead and I was sure Bit-Exo had and has most users online 24/7

can someone tell us how many users 24/7 are on BB site? I cant see the numbers of online users


best of luck

[yahoo62278]

1st of all I am in no way saying i have a top APP or that my game is the best. I throw out a few promos here and there and can get my app to have 10+ users online at anytime. Anyone can long as theyre giving away money. The gamblers are all chasing that free money vs actually going out and gambling to try and earn a dollar. Once the "easy money promo" ends, the gamblers look for the next promo.

This is why its important as an app owner to constantly be coming up with new ideas to bring the gamblers to their sites and keep them gambling. You have to find a balance in your promos that gets ppl gambling but doesnt lose you all your earnings+ out of pocket money.

Now lets take a look at your app. You had alot of players, but you had those players because alot could play daily for free. Dont try and manipulate the community as if you had a badass app. Your game was ok, but terrible in appearance. Your attitude was not and still isnt the greatest. All your players showed up because you gave away a shitload of daily freebies and ppl had a chance to win a decent amount of btc.

Then on top of that, you robbed your players of 25% or whatever the house cut was, to pay for chat rain and to pay YOU. You also picked and chose who got these rains.

Your dust lottery idea was geared around fucking moneypot, investors, and players outta money. Every xxx amount of bets there was gonna be a jackpot. Its inevitable, but you made sure you were gonna get your cut. Sure you gave away some to your "loyal" players, but in the longrun you were really a thief.

The ONLY reason many stopped in to play was for the simple fact you paid them to play basically. It was a win/win for you, because you knew you could give away .5btc in the month but once a jp was hit you were gonna clean up.

Then MP changed stuff on you. They changed the max payout. They stopped allowing you to fuck the players by taking a 25% cut of winnings. They stopped allowing you to take advantage of the investors money by offering an app that had no way at all for mp to show a house profit.

How about instead of trying to make moneypot look bad for not allowing you to be a thief, that you accept the facts and go away. No amount of threads or bullshit you post will make you look like a casino guru, or a genius.

How about you make a poll and ask moneypot investors if theyre glad your app is closing? Im betting it will be an overwhelming 90%+ yes.

[BTCevo]

1. Betterbets, seems like to be their core since from the start, they have really huge wagered amount and keep it like that until today
2. Bit-exo, the most progressive site ever
3. Jackpotracer, the best lottery ever but never been accepted from the start and after someone wins big, site is rained by many issues
4. Bubblesbit
5. Dustdice

For bubblesbit and dustdice i am not really sure and their games has less attraction for people but still give huge wagered after all

hi BTCevo

thx for your comments and vote nd you are spot on with your comments but please be aware that the Poll is not for the most wagered App but we might do a Poll next time for most wagered app

good luck wherever you lay your coins

Somwtimes the highest wagered determined each site is really popular or not, because most site has huge wagered came from many players keeps on coming back and roll. But sometime big whale is coming to roll too but apps that I mentioned about last time dont get huge whale come so often so I think both of that apps is including in my 5 top gambling apps on moneypot

[BossMacko]

My top 3 MP Apps

1) Jackpotracer
2) Bubblesbit
3) Betterbets

Jackpotracer lotto is very unique, Compared to other lotto that you send bits to bots/address and wait for sometime to see result , But in JPRtrcr lotto its like you are playing dice.

[milewilda]

I just choose only on Bubblesbit since this is the only site ive got used to play in the past and I can say that it was really a great experience. Admin and support is really accommodating and does have good giveaways and games specially on slice dice and bullseye.

[JackpotRacer]

I just choose only on Bubblesbit since this is the only site ive got used to play in the past and I can say that it was really a great experience. Admin and support is really accommodating and does have good giveaways and games specially on slice dice and bullseye.

you should read the main posting and the Poll question before you vote or post your comments. the Poll is not if you like Bubbles most it is about the most populated Moneypot app in a 24/7 (10+ users online) of 2016 and I have sad news for you Bubbles had never 10+ Users online 24/7 because his Promos were really lame and stingy and Jackpotracer had much better Promos and there is no doubt about it, trust me

but good luck for you on Bubbles and always check the seeds that there are not 50% missing cause yahoo likes to wager with 50% less seed numbers:) just see here and read on cause his Bubbles was not provably fair when he decided to leave out some amount of seed s
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg16748286#msg16748286

he let his dev code the seeds under a given number cause he thought he can win on his own app  and I call this trying to steal from investors 

but the nice thingy was that not MP found it out during the investigation ( or they didnt inform the public when they found out) but a simple but smart user and player called B_UN1T

I will post as soon I have time more about this event

[Dogedigital]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

[J_ROC]

The thread seems to be turning into a mud slinging contest between JPR and Yahoo.

[hopenotlate]

 - snip -

Now lets take a look at your app. You had alot of players, but you had those players because alot could play daily for free. Dont try and manipulate the community as if you had a badass app. Your game was ok, but terrible in appearance. Your attitude was not and still isnt the greatest. All your players showed up because you gave away a shitload of daily freebies and ppl had a chance to win a decent amount of btc.

Then on top of that, you robbed your players of 25% or whatever the house cut was, to pay for chat rain and to pay YOU. You also picked and chose who got these rains.

Your dust lottery idea was geared around fucking moneypot, investors, and players outta money. Every xxx amount of bets there was gonna be a jackpot. Its inevitable, but you made sure you were gonna get your cut. Sure you gave away some to your "loyal" players, but in the longrun you were really a thief.

The ONLY reason many stopped in to play was for the simple fact you paid them to play basically. It was a win/win for you, because you knew you could give away .5btc in the month but once a jp was hit you were gonna clean up.

Then MP changed stuff on you. They changed the max payout. They stopped allowing you to fuck the players by taking a 25% cut of winnings. They stopped allowing you to take advantage of the investors money by offering an app that had no way at all for mp to show a house profit.

How about instead of trying to make moneypot look bad for not allowing you to be a thief, that you accept the facts and go away. No amount of threads or bullshit you post will make you look like a casino guru, or a genius.

 - snip -

Amen.


Anyway, pretending the real reason of this thread was the poll, my votes go to:

Betterbets
Exo
Jackpotracer
Bubblesbit

[JackpotRacer]

The thread seems to be turning into a mud slinging contest between JPR and Yahoo.

why are you saying this? this i sa legit Poll to show MP owner DD that our app did work out for us and not as he is saying it didnt

yahoo came in and attacked us so it is not a slinging contest between yahoo and me

you should know that Bubbles never had many players and there are oh sorry were only 3 apps with more than 10+ users 24/7 online

1st Bit-Exo
2nd BB
3rd Jackpotracer
and then no app that had more than 10+ users 24/7 online

and each one who is denying this is a Liar for his purpose

how can MP owner tell us that our app didnt work out when we were 3rd of 1000+ apps? something looks very wrong here but maybe MP owner DD will apologize and admit his error/mistake

[JackpotRacer]

1st of all I am in no way saying i have a top APP or that my game is the best. I throw out a few promos here and there and can get my app to have 10+ users online at anytime. Anyone can long as theyre giving away money. The gamblers are all chasing that free money vs actually going out and gambling to try and earn a dollar. Once the "easy money promo" ends, the gamblers look for the next promo.

This is why its important as an app owner to constantly be coming up with new ideas to bring the gamblers to their sites and keep them gambling. You have to find a balance in your promos that gets ppl gambling but doesnt lose you all your earnings+ out of pocket money.

Now lets take a look at your app. You had alot of players, but you had those players because alot could play daily for free. Dont try and manipulate the community as if you had a badass app. Your game was ok, but terrible in appearance. Your attitude was not and still isnt the greatest. All your players showed up because you gave away a shitload of daily freebies and ppl had a chance to win a decent amount of btc.

Then on top of that, you robbed your players of 25% or whatever the house cut was, to pay for chat rain and to pay YOU. You also picked and chose who got these rains.

Your dust lottery idea was geared around fucking moneypot, investors, and players outta money. Every xxx amount of bets there was gonna be a jackpot. Its inevitable, but you made sure you were gonna get your cut. Sure you gave away some to your "loyal" players, but in the longrun you were really a thief.

The ONLY reason many stopped in to play was for the simple fact you paid them to play basically. It was a win/win for you, because you knew you could give away .5btc in the month but once a jp was hit you were gonna clean up.

Then MP changed stuff on you. They changed the max payout. They stopped allowing you to fuck the players by taking a 25% cut of winnings. They stopped allowing you to take advantage of the investors money by offering an app that had no way at all for mp to show a house profit.

How about instead of trying to make moneypot look bad for not allowing you to be a thief, that you accept the facts and go away. No amount of threads or bullshit you post will make you look like a casino guru, or a genius.

How about you make a poll and ask moneypot investors if theyre glad your app is closing? Im betting it will be an overwhelming 90%+ yes.

quoting to secure that he will not delete it because we will not delete it even we could
I am glad about his stupid and AH comments I will comment as soon I have time
 and same with this posting

[J_ROC]

Point being that even tho, yahoo made a negative post in regards to your application, instead of confronting his arguments you just tried to deflect the criticism, back onto him and his app.  That is basic elementary school behavior that should really be discouraged when we are all trying to make efforts to help grow the moneypot platform and our apps as well.  This whole thread screams of someone who really sounds like they are being left by the wayside, when they feel that they should be entitled to some sort of special accommodations.  Instead of attempting to fabricate and escalate a none issue, focus on developing your application and catering to your customer base.

[pablotextoris]

Hmm i think there were just 3 apps with 10+ users on daily basis

[zaboq]

Voted, Bit-Exo, JPR and Bubbles were the best

[JackpotRacer]

Point being that even tho, yahoo made a negative post in regards to your application, instead of confronting his arguments you just tried to deflect the criticism, back onto him and his app.  That is basic elementary school behavior that should really be discouraged when we are all trying to make efforts to help grow the moneypot platform and our apps as well.  This whole thread screams of someone who really sounds like they are being left by the wayside, when they feel that they should be entitled to some sort of special accommodations.  Instead of attempting to fabricate and escalate a none issue, focus on developing your application and catering to your customer base.

sorry but this was the wrong answer

lets wait and see where Bit-Exo will end and if you ask me I know the answer already and it looks like there are more app owners than yahoo who think a brown nose will help. it will not and I take every bet!

good luck

[JackpotRacer]

Hmm i think there were just 3 apps with 10+ users on daily basis

yes as always Pablo understand very well the text and the Poll

thx for that Pablo

Voted, Bit-Exo, JPR and Bubbles were the best

sorry zaboq please let Pablo explain about what the Poll is cause I explained already a few times to different users. it look like some users just dont like the fact that in 2016 there were only 3 apps out of 1000+ apps with 10+ users 24/7 and their beloved app like Bubbles didnt have the user amount we asked in this Poll. Promos are attracting customers and who did the right Promos for a long time again and again?

Bit-Exo
Betterbets
Jackpotracer

and thats it but everyone is welcome to prove me wrong

cheers

[absy]

My vote goes to JPR site without second thoughts as the dust lottery was one of the unique and most loved game on MP . I still remember lots of promo and lots of users enjoying the chat and lots of JP hit . I miss it a lot

[kohavn]

i've voted. So many thing to do

[JackpotRacer]

My vote goes to JPR site without second thoughts as the dust lottery was one of the unique and most loved game on MP . I still remember lots of promo and lots of users enjoying the chat and lots of JP hit . I miss it a lot

thx absy for the kind words very much appreciated and the good thing is that you didnt need to tell a lie

i've voted. So many thing to do

what kind of work did you mean? thx for voting

[bajing]

I give my vote forfor betterbets.io and plinko.io, sometimes i play at there just for make me feel fun also im remember in 2016 betterbets won on epic battle versus pocketrocketcasino.

[staxxd]

Only apps I can recall ever having a consistent number of users online and playing are JPR and Exo. There are others that I know had some users online occasionally but as far as constantly having users online and betting with active chatters and such these two are the only ones that come to mind for at least 10 or more users.

[JackpotRacer]

Only apps I can recall ever having a consistent number of users online and playing are JPR and Exo. There are others that I know had some users online occasionally but as far as constantly having users online and betting with active chatters and such these two are the only ones that come to mind for at least 10 or more users.

thx for your comment and if I may say that you are still my best B............

best of luck

[zaboq]

Hmm i think there were just 3 apps with 10+ users on daily basis

yes as always Pablo understand very well the text and the Poll

thx for that Pablo

Voted, Bit-Exo, JPR and Bubbles were the best

sorry zaboq please let Pablo explain about what the Poll is cause I explained already a few times to different users. it look like some users just dont like the fact that in 2016 there were only 3 apps out of 1000+ apps with 10+ users 24/7 and their beloved app like Bubbles didnt have the user amount we asked in this Poll. Promos are attracting customers and who did the right Promos for a long time again and again?

Bit-Exo
Betterbets
Jackpotracer

and thats it but everyone is welcome to prove me wrong

cheers

Hello JPR, I have understood what was the poll about but I have not played on BB really, therefore I decided to pick one of the only few apps i was regularly visiting in past. My bad. Guess i should only vote for two then...

[DiCE1904]

Betterbets.io gets my vote

[JackpotRacer]

Hmm i think there were just 3 apps with 10+ users on daily basis

yes as always Pablo understand very well the text and the Poll

thx for that Pablo

Voted, Bit-Exo, JPR and Bubbles were the best

sorry zaboq please let Pablo explain about what the Poll is cause I explained already a few times to different users. it look like some users just dont like the fact that in 2016 there were only 3 apps out of 1000+ apps with 10+ users 24/7 and their beloved app like Bubbles didnt have the user amount we asked in this Poll. Promos are attracting customers and who did the right Promos for a long time again and again?

Bit-Exo
Betterbets
Jackpotracer

and thats it but everyone is welcome to prove me wrong

cheers

Hello JPR, I have understood what was the poll about but I have not played on BB really, therefore I decided to pick one of the only few apps i was regularly visiting in past. My bad. Guess i should only vote for two then...

hi zaboq

for every MP player Betterbets is well known as a well visited MP App but if you done know them so it is fine for us and we are glad you know us and voted accordingly

best of luck

[bitcampaign]

VOTE only provide for both these sites, hopefully the site could be better in the future
BubblesBit and Vegas Casino Bits

[piebeyb]

Vote for Betterbets.io
I think their site is well-deserved as the best for the payment by moneypot

[JackpotRacer]

VOTE only provide for both these sites, hopefully the site could be better in the future
BubblesBit and Vegas Casino Bits

lol  

please read what was asked for this Poll and then answer or vote accordingly. that you like those sites is fine but please open another thread and wish them good luck or go there to play a bit cause they need customers to reach 10+ users 24/7 online in 2017. right now if we would do same poll for 2017 the top 5 would be

1st  Bit-Exo
2nd Betterbets
3rd to 1000+ not even one app because Jackpotracer app was killed  

[soldat13]

My vote :

1)Betterbets.io
2)BitDragon Casino
3)Seuntjie Dice Bot

[JackpotRacer]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

[B_UN1T]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

Sorry i Need to step in and spam the Thread that have nothing to do with the voting. But i will make My Voting later.
There Are a lot other Apps out they "cheat" you(player) with Bad seeds the Most of the copy past ultility Script dice Apps dont allowed you to Chance your seed and a few from this Apps give you only seed "0", for me the worst seed ever!
To come back to the seed cuting. This was also a prob from betterbets for over a year that your seed Range was only 50% from the hole rang. You had only us a seed from 0-~245000000 and not to ~4947900000. This only to say. Havent follow the hole thread becouse i m tired about all this mp drama and App owners Fight against each other. This is one of the Main probs mp have atm. As Investors they follow all this blablabla i would not Investor there

[JackpotRacer]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

Sorry i Need to step in and spam the Thread that have nothing to do with the voting. But i will make My Voting later.
There Are a lot other Apps out they "cheat" you(player) with Bad seeds the Most of the copy past ultility Script dice Apps dont allowed you to Chance your seed and a few from this Apps give you only seed "0", for me the worst seed ever!
To come back to the seed cuting. This was also a prob from betterbets for over a year that your seed Range was only 50% from the hole rang. You had only us a seed from 0-~245000000 and not to ~4947900000. This only to say. Havent follow the hole thread becouse i m tired about all this mp drama and App owners Fight against each other. This is one of the Main probs mp have atm. As Investors they follow all this blablabla i would not Investor there

hi

could you confirm that you found the seed bug at Bubbles when checking Nottardy's logged bets published by MP? it was very quick fixed by Bubbles dev and again it was done by purpose by yahoo cause he wanted to have a better chance to win and I call this cheating the investors and trying to steal from them and from us. anyway stupid thinking cause he alone had no better chance to win.

thx

[kohavn]

the percent of site that i voted is too low .

[JackpotRacer]

the percent of site that i voted is too low .

thx for your vote but what do you mean? did you read the main posting and understood what we are looking for?

[B_UN1T]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

Sorry i Need to step in and spam the Thread that have nothing to do with the voting. But i will make My Voting later.
There Are a lot other Apps out they "cheat" you(player) with Bad seeds the Most of the copy past ultility Script dice Apps dont allowed you to Chance your seed and a few from this Apps give you only seed "0", for me the worst seed ever!
To come back to the seed cuting. This was also a prob from betterbets for over a year that your seed Range was only 50% from the hole rang. You had only us a seed from 0-~245000000 and not to ~4947900000. This only to say. Havent follow the hole thread becouse i m tired about all this mp drama and App owners Fight against each other. This is one of the Main probs mp have atm. As Investors they follow all this blablabla i would not Investor there

hi

could you confirm that you found the seed bug at Bubbles when checking Nottardy's logged bets published by MP? it was very quick fixed by Bubbles dev and again it was done by purpose by yahoo cause he wanted to have a better chance to win and I call this cheating the investors and trying to steal from them and from us. anyway stupid thinking cause he alone had no better chance to win.

thx

Can confirm this as request.
Took me 1-2 min to check the bet history to see there is something wrong with the client seed.

But i would not say yahoo want to cheat mp/investors. Check the stats and you will see .
If i remember correct notardy us randome seed (new seed for every bet) i was online during one betseason and i would say there was no time to hack the outcome with the speed he bet.



Back to the voting.
You ask about the populated apps 2016. Was dragon online since 2016 only to say

[JackpotRacer]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

Sorry i Need to step in and spam the Thread that have nothing to do with the voting. But i will make My Voting later.
There Are a lot other Apps out they "cheat" you(player) with Bad seeds the Most of the copy past ultility Script dice Apps dont allowed you to Chance your seed and a few from this Apps give you only seed "0", for me the worst seed ever!
To come back to the seed cuting. This was also a prob from betterbets for over a year that your seed Range was only 50% from the hole rang. You had only us a seed from 0-~245000000 and not to ~4947900000. This only to say. Havent follow the hole thread becouse i m tired about all this mp drama and App owners Fight against each other. This is one of the Main probs mp have atm. As Investors they follow all this blablabla i would not Investor there

hi

could you confirm that you found the seed bug at Bubbles when checking Nottardy's logged bets published by MP? it was very quick fixed by Bubbles dev and again it was done by purpose by yahoo cause he wanted to have a better chance to win and I call this cheating the investors and trying to steal from them and from us. anyway stupid thinking cause he alone had no better chance to win.

thx

Can confirm this as request.
Took me 1-2 min to check the bet history to see there is something wrong with the client seed.

But i would not say yahoo want to cheat mp/investors. Check the stats and you will see .
If i remember correct notardy us randome seed (new seed for every bet) i was online during one betseason and i would say there was no time to hack the outcome with the speed he bet.



Back to the voting.
You ask about the populated apps 2016. Was dragon online since 2016 only to say

thx for confirming because I will never forget that you a player found it and not MP cause they were investigating and they could not find it? and you are saying it took you 2 minutes to see the problem hats off!

I say yes yahoo wanted to get an advantage with the short cut seeds and according to RHavar it was not provably fair. but you dont need to comment on it cause I dont want you to get in trouble with yahoo

good luck where ever you may put your coins

[nohnaj]

My vote is only for jackpotracer as number 1.

[JackpotRacer]

My vote is only for jackpotracer as number 1.

thx mate

but to be frank and fair the correct vote would be

1st Bit_Exo

2nd BetterBets

3rd Jackpotracer for 2016


good luck and please visit us as soon we are back

[JackpotRacer]

Restricting the client seeds can only theoretically hurt the players, not benefit them. 

Hypothetically, A bad operator (it would be us [MP] in this case) could predict what seed the user would choose based on restrictions and use it against them by changing our own seed and gaining an edge. 

However, you can deduce by our investor profit, that we have not and never will do this.

Please do not try to misinform the people.

sorry for late reply I was a bit busy. you are misinforming the people cause you just need to go back to the MP thread you closed
and see that a MP user Bunit found out that Yahoo Bubbles did cut the client seed numbers by 50%. why would he do this after all games had correct client seed numbers but the last game = slider he added had a 50% cut?

and RHavar wrote that it is not Provably Fair

what can I deduce by investor profit? just check the high of investors profit and where it is now. I didnt say you did anything wrong so please dont twist my words again. I just said the facts that yahoo told his dev to do it cause he thought he has better chances to win. and then NotTardy came out of the blue to his app. why didnt NotTardy go to Bit Exo or BB or Jackpotracer dice?

btw you still owe us (players & investors) the answer how much did NotTardy deposit when he came to our Lottery? you know it and you dont tell us. my bet still stands that it was less than 2 BTC and BTC was not 1000$ at that time

Please direct me to where I have misinformed people in my statement.

You are sidetracking from what was said.  I don't think you actually took the time to read what I said or try to understand what I'm saying.

By the way, the answers you claim I have not produced have been addressed in another thread which you ended up quoting.

Despite all this and the blatantly wrong and undeserved accusations you keep making on Yahoo, I wish you good luck in your new ventures (as I see that you have officially cut ties with us).

that you are taking side of yahoo who tried to cheat the investors shows that you are/were partner of yahoo or you are the clown that RHavar was coloring you. I have proof for this that yahoo was doing it by purpose cause he thought it will let him win some coins! this way of thinking adds him to the group of clowns or he partnered up with you and all investors were the clowns for you

yahoo was also asking you to shut down our app  I have proof also for this and you killed our app and again you sided with yahoo 
check the poll result and even some didnt understand the poll there are only 3 apps of 1000+ apps for 2016 who had some steady customers. you cant be proud of this!

deleting my postings in MP  thread will not bring you anything cause it shows you have something to hide

my questions are still not answered and I will open a thread for those questions and some more and you will have no choice but you will need to answer those.

[RHavar]

that you are taking side of yahoo who tried to cheat the investors shows that you are/were partner of yahoo or you are the clown that RHavar was coloring you. I have proof for this that yahoo was doing it by purpose cause he thought it will let him win some coins! this way of thinking adds him to the group of clowns or he partnered up with you and all investors were the clowns for you

Sorry to jump in, but I don't like to be misrepresented. AFAICT there was never a mistake on moneypot's part. It was a silly mistake by some of their apps, which rendered them non-provably-fair. When it was pointed out, it was fixed.  

Whether or not an app (properly) randomize their client seeds doesn't directly affect moneypot or it's investors. If it did, it would be trivial to cheat moneypot. Instead the client seed is to make the game provably fair for players.

Also FWIW investing is already not provably fair (as I assume, and hope all investors are aware). If there was a scheme to cheat them, it would be trivial and undetectable (and only manifest as players getting lucky). There would be no screwing around with the client seeds at all.


Edit:

Also don't confuse  "not provably fair" with "not fair". A game is very capable of being fair, but not provably so. Obviously provably fair is better than just fair. And "nonrepudiably fair" is better than provably fair. And trustless is even better than that.

[yahoo62278]

JPR is like to see this proof you have where i was trying to "cheat" the investors or the players. I had not even paid attention to the seeds not all being there til someone pointed it out. My dev immediately fixed it.

All you seem to wanna do since coming into Moneypot is be an asshole to everyone. How did that work out for you? You should take some of that money you got from your players and take a class on public relations. You def have none.

[JackpotRacer]

that you are taking side of yahoo who tried to cheat the investors shows that you are/were partner of yahoo or you are the clown that RHavar was coloring you. I have proof for this that yahoo was doing it by purpose cause he thought it will let him win some coins! this way of thinking adds him to the group of clowns or he partnered up with you and all investors were the clowns for you

Sorry to jump in, but I don't like to be misrepresented. AFAICT there was never a mistake on moneypot's part. It was a silly mistake by some of their apps, which rendered them non-provably-fair. When it was pointed out, it was fixed.  

Whether or not an app (properly) randomize their client seeds doesn't directly affect moneypot or it's investors. If it did, it would be trivial to cheat moneypot. Instead the client seed is to make the game provably fair for players.

Also FWIW investing is already not provably fair (as I assume, and hope all investors are aware). If there was a scheme to cheat them, it would be trivial and undetectable (and only manifest as players getting lucky). There would be no screwing around with the client seeds at all.


Edit:

Also don't confuse  "not provably fair" with "not fair". A game is very capable of being fair, but not provably so. Obviously provably fair is better than just fair. And "nonrepudiably fair" is better than provably fair. And trustless is even better than that.

I read this answer of yours
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg16748318#msg16748318

and there you are saying that it is not provably fair!

I wrote in connection with your answer
but good luck for you on Bubbles and always check the seeds that there are not 50% missing cause yahoo likes to wager with 50% less seed numbers:) just see here and read on cause his Bubbles was not provably fair when he decided to leave out some amount of seed s

I didnt write that you said that MP did cheat or made a mistake. IMO I didnt misrepresented you

what I am saying is that yahoo let his dev code the short seeds by purpose (I have proof) cause he is stupid enough to think that this trick would help him to win. only this kind of thinking is telling me that he wanted to cheat MP investors cause they will lose if he wins. easy as that

I also wrote and I am saying that MP posted that they are investigating NotTardy's bets and they didnt find out that the seeds were manipulated or short coded!!!! how can one explain this? cause user BUNIT confirmed after I asked him here in thread

Can confirm this as request.
Took me 1-2 min to check the bet history to see there is something wrong with the client seed.

a MP player found it after 2 minutes looking over the wager logs and MP Head dev didnt find it after investigating much longer than this user.

that MP owner DD is taking side with a cheater doesnt look good at all imo because MP owner should try to protect their investors

It was a silly mistake by some of their apps, which rendered them non-provably-fair. When it was pointed out, it was fixed. 

we all know that you are not stupid and you are pre owner of MP and imo you handled the platform much more pro than the new owners

please explain to me how comes that an app dev was coding all games correct seed wise but the last game the seeds were coded short?
I would agree if it is their first game of their app then it could happen cause all is new to him but the last game after so many games huh? yahoo is beside NotTardy  his best customer and he didnt win on his app yet

or did I misrepresented you when I mentioned that you wrote in a posting that Dogedigital is behaving like a clown?

[JackpotRacer]

JPR is like to see this proof you have where i was trying to "cheat" the investors or the players. I had not even paid attention to the seeds not all being there til someone pointed it out. My dev immediately fixed it.

All you seem to wanna do since coming into Moneypot is be an asshole to everyone. How did that work out for you? You should take some of that money you got from your players and take a class on public relations. You def have none.

the asshole is you and you tried to cheat the investors by stupidly thinking that shorted seeds will give you the advantage. and yes I have the proof that you initiated it.

dont you remember when you told me that you need to go out of MP to earn some coins? that MP is not the place if you want to earn with your casino/pp?

lets see how much you will earn with Bubbles in the future as now Jackpotracer is out and gone 

[JackpotRacer]

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on,........................................

are you clown threatening me?

please confirm and lets dance

[gapjustin]

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on,........................................

are you clown threatening me?

please confirm and lets dance

wait wait wait
are you seriously trying to take something out of context and use that as an "argument" on why he's bad?
Seriously?

Let me first grab the Full quote of the sentence as you cut half of it away

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Suddenly sounds 100% not like a threat, doesn't it?

Let us enlarge it once again

There is no need to attack others.  I put all my focus, energy, and time into my OWN company.  I believe you should too.

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Basically he's asking you to drop this foolish conquest and do something useful.
How in the world could this ever be a threat?
Anyways my vote is: https://dicesites.com/moneypot < this

[JackpotRacer]

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on,........................................

are you clown threatening me?

please confirm and lets dance

wait wait wait
are you seriously trying to take something out of context and use that as an "argument" on why he's bad?
Seriously?

Let me first grab the Full quote of the sentence as you cut half of it away

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Suddenly sounds 100% not like a threat, doesn't it?

Let us enlarge it once again

There is no need to attack others.  I put all my focus, energy, and time into my OWN company.  I believe you should too.

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Basically he's asking you to drop this foolish conquest and do something useful.
How in the world could this ever be a threat?
Anyways my vote is: https://dicesites.com/moneypot < this

and another clown is joining in 

how old are you today? did you reach 17 already or still 16?

told you once to stay away from our games and all gambling sites as long you are under aged and you didnt listen 

you are a talented coder and should stick with it till you are 18 and then decide to gamble or not

how much did you earn with your apps and ponzi? MP even allowed your ponzi game and yahoo what an idiot was even playing your ponzi 

Moneypot need some talented coders but not coders who gamble

and now lets take the sentence again
Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

this sentence is  a threat imo as MP threatened us a lot and finally killed our app cause some investors (I dont believe it) and some app owners asked them to close our app and they killed our app. were you one of those owners? LEL

I dont need any advice from DD he needs to answer all questions from an investor to be transparent and he decided not to answer but to threaten me or giving me stupid advice

take your money you earned on MP and buy some sweets cause it will not be enough for more

STAY with CODING this is my Grand Pa advice

[iram3130]

Definitely BetterBets will be the most famous one with lots and lots of users pouring in and betting, but BubblesBit also a great app and populated most of the time.

[JackpotRacer]

Definitely BetterBets will be the most famous one with lots and lots of users pouring in and betting, but BubblesBit also a great app and populated most of the time.

LOL

Bubbles is great app cause nice designed but not populated that means you are just a brown nosed yahoo fan or/and dint read the reason of the Poll

BB was in 2016 definetely on 2nd rank and in 2017 again on 2nd rank cause Bit-Exo is and was on 1st rank if you like it or not and Jackpotracer was on 3rd rank and Bubbles was never seen as all other 1000+ apps never reached rank 4

[nicolecan13]

BB was in 2016 definetely on 2nd rank and in 2017 again on 2nd rank cause Bit-Exo is and was on 1st rank if you like it or not and Jackpotracer was on 3rd rank and Bubbles was never seen as all other 1000+ apps never reached rank 4
Definitely BetterBets will be the most famous one with lots and lots of users pouring in and betting, but BubblesBit also a great app and populated most of the time.

[JackpotRacer]

BB was in 2016 definetely on 2nd rank and in 2017 again on 2nd rank cause Bit-Exo is and was on 1st rank if you like it or not and Jackpotracer was on 3rd rank and Bubbles was never seen as all other 1000+ apps never reached rank 4
Definitely BetterBets will be the most famous one with lots and lots of users pouring in and betting, but BubblesBit also a great app and populated most of the time.

LOL another idiot and yahoo fan joined in

but you cant bend the facts, remember !

1st is Bit-Exo and BB has not anymore that many users online but they are very popular and you need to learn to understand the difference between populated and popular  

not sure if yahoo can explain it to you but you are free to ask him  

[B_UN1T]

Ok now i will give my feedback and only my feedback.
I think i have played on nearly every app at mp
and also find a lot of funny apps i dont know what they stay for
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/4-~welcome-to-venus~   


I will not step in the drama what always going on and the voting have nothing to do with JPR or yahoo its my personal view! .


First remember we talk about the year 2016 a few thinks was different.
JPR was not one app and every game was its own App

This mean for me
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1221-provablyio
and
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/877-vegas-casino-bit
are out.

But if you want them for the pool you should take the old app from them
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1316-btc4bets



At the beginn of the year i had sayed Betterbets was best but Bit-Exo won the race till end of the year becouse they do a lot more, new games, page update and so on.
On the other hand BB disable the Horserace game what i find very sad.

Come to my rating

#1 Bit-Exo
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/926-bit-exo

#2 Betterbets
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/14-betterbets

Now it gets hard, remember we talk about 2016
# 3 Texas Hold am All-In & Racer Game (both from JPR)
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/695-texas-holdem-all-in
(Becouse you havent find this kind of game on a other app)
lets say
#3 JackpotRacer
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1267-jackpotracer

#4 Dice Roll
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/598-dice-roll
yes a very unkown app but i really like the design to bad its gone and what i heard ambitlons the owner was not online for month.
Sure there was a few thinks they need to update/fix but as i say i like the design.

#5 Bubblesbit
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/640-bubblesbit
Havent really played a lot there, dont know why but its not my favorit app(they dont give out Access token not very mobile friendly) but its a app they have put in a lot work and have games you didnt find on other apps


The rest is only the standart utility script. Yes #4 maybe to but i explain why its place 4 for me

The worst apps for me
Yolo (disabled) 5% House Edge
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/689-yolo
99 Dice 3% Edge
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/685-99-dice

[johnwest]

Bit-Exo and Jackpot racer Rocks. Both are most favorite apps for more than half of the population who use Moneypot apps. 

[JackpotRacer]

Ok now i will give my feedback and only my feedback.
I think i have played on nearly every app at mp
and also find a lot of funny apps i dont know what they stay for
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/4-~welcome-to-venus~   


I will not step in the drama what always going on and the voting have nothing to do with JPR or yahoo its my personal view! .


First remember we talk about the year 2016 a few thinks was different.
JPR was not one app and every game was its own App

This mean for me
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1221-provablyio
and
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/877-vegas-casino-bit
are out.

But if you want them for the pool you should take the old app from them
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1316-btc4bets



At the beginn of the year i had sayed Betterbets was best but Bit-Exo won the race till end of the year becouse they do a lot more, new games, page update and so on.
On the other hand BB disable the Horserace game what i find very sad.

Come to my rating

#1 Bit-Exo
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/926-bit-exo

#2 Betterbets
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/14-betterbets

Now it gets hard, remember we talk about 2016
# 3 Texas Hold am All-In & Racer Game (both from JPR)
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/695-texas-holdem-all-in
(Becouse you havent find this kind of game on a other app)
lets say
#3 JackpotRacer
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1267-jackpotracer

#4 Dice Roll
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/598-dice-roll
yes a very unkown app but i really like the design to bad its gone and what i heard ambitlons the owner was not online for month.
Sure there was a few thinks they need to update/fix but as i say i like the design.

#5 Bubblesbit
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/640-bubblesbit
Havent really played a lot there, dont know why but its not my favorit app(they dont give out Access token not very mobile friendly) but its a app they have put in a lot work and have games you didnt find on other apps


The rest is only the standart utility script. Yes #4 maybe to but i explain why its place 4 for me

The worst apps for me
Yolo (disabled) 5% House Edge
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/689-yolo
99 Dice 3% Edge
https://www.moneypot.com/apps/685-99-dice

I am not sure now if you understood the poll. the poll asks for which apps were most populated in 2016. maybe the next poll could be which app or game users liked most and were most popular

cheers

[B_UN1T]

I am not sure now if you understood the poll. the poll asks for which apps were most populated in 2016. maybe the next poll could be which app or game users liked most and were most popular

cheers

Ohh sorry yes My fault! Will Update My "Voting" later.

[JackpotRacer]

I am not sure now if you understood the poll. the poll asks for which apps were most populated in 2016. maybe the next poll could be which app or game users liked most and were most popular

cheers

Ohh sorry yes My fault! Will Update My "Voting" later.

great! and you who visited all MP apps will know where the people were sleeping 24/7 in 2016

I will repeat my top 5 and there is no other ranking for 2016

1st Bit Exo
2nd BB
3rd Jackpotracer

and at the end of 2016 Jackpotracer was even 2nd

and who was 4th? all the rest of 1000+ apps where the owner was sitting and waiting for customers:)

good luck

[gapjustin]

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on,........................................

are you clown threatening me?

please confirm and lets dance

wait wait wait
are you seriously trying to take something out of context and use that as an "argument" on why he's bad?
Seriously?

Let me first grab the Full quote of the sentence as you cut half of it away

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Suddenly sounds 100% not like a threat, doesn't it?

Let us enlarge it once again

There is no need to attack others.  I put all my focus, energy, and time into my OWN company.  I believe you should too.

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Basically he's asking you to drop this foolish conquest and do something useful.
How in the world could this ever be a threat?
Anyways my vote is: https://dicesites.com/moneypot < this

and another clown is joining in  

how old are you today? did you reach 17 already or still 16?

told you once to stay away from our games and all gambling sites as long you are under aged and you didnt listen  

you are a talented coder and should stick with it till you are 18 and then decide to gamble or not

how much did you earn with your apps and ponzi? MP even allowed your ponzi game and yahoo what an idiot was even playing your ponzi  

Moneypot need some talented coders but not coders who gamble

and now lets take the sentence again
Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

this sentence is  a threat imo as MP threatened us a lot and finally killed our app cause some investors (I dont believe it) and some app owners asked them to close our app and they killed our app. were you one of those owners? LEL

I dont need any advice from DD he needs to answer all questions from an investor to be transparent and he decided not to answer but to threaten me or giving me stupid advice

take your money you earned on MP and buy some sweets cause it will not be enough for more

STAY with CODING this is my Grand Pa advice

>this is a forum not a gambling site
>the ponzi thing was a game called ponzi, not an actual ponzi
>I've earned more than enough to buy more than just sweets
>I wasn't one of those owner
>Thanks for saying I'm a talented coder :3


Anyways from the thread I have noticed that after every opinion which doesn't suit your opinion (on the top 3) you immediately say "It should be ..."
Isn't that what opinions are all about? That everyone can have a different one?
I mean if everyone has to have yours then what is the point of this thread?
Could it be that you wanted to annoy MP? :O I mean you would never do that would you?

[JackpotRacer]

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on,........................................

are you clown threatening me?

please confirm and lets dance

wait wait wait
are you seriously trying to take something out of context and use that as an "argument" on why he's bad?
Seriously?

Let me first grab the Full quote of the sentence as you cut half of it away

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Suddenly sounds 100% not like a threat, doesn't it?

Let us enlarge it once again

There is no need to attack others.  I put all my focus, energy, and time into my OWN company.  I believe you should too.

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

Basically he's asking you to drop this foolish conquest and do something useful.
How in the world could this ever be a threat?
Anyways my vote is: https://dicesites.com/moneypot < this

and another clown is joining in  

how old are you today? did you reach 17 already or still 16?

told you once to stay away from our games and all gambling sites as long you are under aged and you didnt listen  

you are a talented coder and should stick with it till you are 18 and then decide to gamble or not

how much did you earn with your apps and ponzi? MP even allowed your ponzi game and yahoo what an idiot was even playing your ponzi  

Moneypot need some talented coders but not coders who gamble

and now lets take the sentence again
Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

this sentence is  a threat imo as MP threatened us a lot and finally killed our app cause some investors (I dont believe it) and some app owners asked them to close our app and they killed our app. were you one of those owners? LEL

I dont need any advice from DD he needs to answer all questions from an investor to be transparent and he decided not to answer but to threaten me or giving me stupid advice

take your money you earned on MP and buy some sweets cause it will not be enough for more

STAY with CODING this is my Grand Pa advice

>this is a forum not a gambling site
>the ponzi thing was a game called ponzi, not an actual ponzi
>I've earned more than enough to buy more than just sweets
>I wasn't one of those owner
>Thanks for saying I'm a talented coder :3


Anyways from the thread I have noticed that after every opinion which doesn't suit your opinion (on the top 3) you immediately say "It should be ..."
Isn't that what opinions are all about? That everyone can have a different one?
I mean if everyone has to have yours then what is the point of this thread?
Could it be that you wanted to annoy MP? :O I mean you would never do that would you?

your game was a ponzi
you have been the owner
yes you are a talented coder and I always will give credit who deserves it even if he is an enemy but I will always defend myself

it looks like that you dont know the difference between popular and populated. just ask someone or I will explain it to you in french

in case of popular yes everyone can have a different opinion but the poll asked for populated apps in 2016 and for this you dont need an opinion. because those are facts and it is easy to prove it. facts dont lie like maths doesnt lie and therefore we love BTC

1st Bit Exo
2nd BB
3rd Jackpotracer
and 4th till 1000+ you or MP owners could show us an app that had more than 10 users 24/7 online for weeks or months in 2016 and I will apologize to this app owner but I wrote in main posting in case that someone thinks he should be on this list to be in top 5 he should post his app name and I will add it

Show it to me!!! which app did I miss???

did I choose the 1st rank Bit Exo wrong? you or anyone please tell me that I am wrong
did I choose the 2nd rank BB wrong? tell me
did I choose the 3rd rank Jackpotracer wrong? you or anyone tell me that it is wrong

do you have a 4th or 5th rank? give it to us!

Bubbles? prove it!

I could show you many samples of Bit Exo chat users online
BB is a bit more difficult to show but we all know they had once most users online
here are samples of Jackpotracer (out of privacy reasons I blacked names out) but I am sure many users can confirm it

 

why should I want to annoy MP? because they killed our app? nah our app was only the 3rd most populated app and not the 1st so why should we be annoyed? MP owners will kill MP business idea and every smart one can see it. just a question of time. remember my words

MP was one of the best business ideas in the casino scene but one needs to know how to handle it because 1000+ apps are nice and brings in some coins but in the long run one needs to do more. do you know how many apps MP owns right now or has partnership? you should know it cause it looks like you are working now for MP as your nose got brown.

the sad thing is that a talented young boy like you is getting brown-nosed or in french lèche-cul and risking to to get deeper and later you cant get out your whole head. Dogedigital or MP owners are old enough to defend themselves and do not need a child to defend them.

how old are you today?  last time you were 16 when you started at MP and visited our app. lets see if you will tell us the truth

just wait till you are a grown up and stay out for the time being when adults are talking.

bonne chance petit garçon

[gapjustin]

snip

your game was a ponzi
you have been the owner
yes you are a talented coder and I always will give credit who deserves it even if he is an enemy but I will always defend myself

it looks like that you dont know the difference between popular and populated. just ask someone or I will explain it to you in french

in case of popular yes everyone can have a different opinion but the poll asked for populated apps in 2016 and for this you dont need an opinion. because those are facts and it is easy to prove it. facts dont lie like maths doesnt lie and therefore we love BTC

1st Bit Exo
2nd BB
3rd Jackpotracer
and 4th till 1000+ you or MP owners could show us an app that had more than 10 users 24/7 online for weeks or months in 2016 and I will apologize to this app owner but I wrote in main posting in case that someone thinks he should be on this list to be in top 5 he should post his app name and I will add it

Show it to me!!! which app did I miss???

did I choose the 1st rank Bit Exo wrong? you or anyone please tell me that I am wrong
did I choose the 2nd rank BB wrong? tell me
did I choose the 3rd rank Jackpotracer wrong? you or anyone tell me that it is wrong

do you have a 4th or 5th rank? give it to us!

Bubbles? prove it!

I could show you many samples of Bit Exo chat users online
BB is a bit more difficult to show but we all know they had once most users online
here are samples of Jackpotracer (out of privacy reasons I blacked names out) but I am sure many users can confirm it

 

why should I want to annoy MP? because they killed our app? nah our app was only the 3rd most populated app and not the 1st so why should we be annoyed? MP owners will kill MP business idea and every smart one can see it. just a question of time. remember my words

MP was one of the best business ideas in the casino scene but one needs to know how to handle it because 1000+ apps are nice and brings in some coins but in the long run one needs to do more. do you know how many apps MP owns right now or has partnership? you should know it cause it looks like you are working now for MP as your nose got brown.

the sad thing is that a talented young boy like you is getting brown-nosed or in french lèche-cul and risking to to get deeper and later you cant get out your whole head. Dogedigital or MP owners are old enough to defend themselves and do not need a child to defend them.

how old are you today?  last time you were 16 when you started at MP and visited our app. lets see if you will tell us the truth

just wait till you are a grown up and stay out for the time being when adults are talking.

bonne chance petit garçon

*sigh* The only reason I even replied on this thread was because of the out of context thing which I hate.
Anyways "(each user has 5 votes)" doesn't this mean people can vote themselves? And the ranking comes from those votes?
I mean that's how a vote should be I think

Anyways According to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0 it's an investor based game, not a ponzi, because the rules are made clear & nobody is running with anyones money at all.

It's not about if you chose wrong, it's about you not letting others chose wrong without bashing them for doing so.


Anyways since you're incapable of not insulting me in every reply to me I will not be responding anymore. Maybe once you grow up we can have a regular conversation.

[JackpotRacer]

*sigh* The only reason I even replied on this thread was because of the out of context thing which I hate.
Anyways "(each user has 5 votes)" doesn't this mean people can vote themselves? And the ranking comes from those votes?
I mean that's how a vote should be I think

Anyways According to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0 it's an investor based game, not a ponzi, because the rules are made clear & nobody is running with anyones money at all.

It's not about if you chose wrong, it's about you not letting others chose wrong without bashing them for doing so.


Anyways since you're incapable of not insulting me in every reply to me I will not be responding anymore. Maybe once you grow up we can have a regular conversation.

LEL you are still not understanding the Poll

there is no option of top 5 cause there were only 3 apps which are qualifying! there were not 4 or 5 apps with 10+ users 24/7 online

if the Poll would ask for top 100 would you choose top 100 even there were only 3 apps who are qualifying for the ranking the Poll is asking for? I really gave you the credit not be that foolish.  sorry that I was wrong. just google for the difference between popular and populated and then ask yourself if a Poll is asking for top 5 or top 10 etc and there are only 3 option qualifying why to vote for 5 or 10 ranks?

I asked you or anyone to point me to an app which had in 2016 10+ users 24/7 online for at least a month and I give you for each app 0.01

but the first and obvious 3 apps are not counting

1st Bit Exo
2nd BB
3rd Jackpotracer

you have 1000+ apps to choose from not a bad chance to find only one or two

good luck

or do you have another top 3? but remember the Poll asks not for the apps you like best or are nicer designed

the nicest design was once Bubbles and today it is dragon casino. we can do a poll which app has nicest design in 2016/17

but lets finish this Poll first

thx for your posting

[JackpotRacer]

This is exactly what I mean JPR.

You take one thing and try to apply it to everything else while totally ignoring the argument presented and actual points at hand.

It is frustratingly difficult to carry a conversation with you when you constantly bring magical transitive properties to your argument believing that situations, circumstances, and logic are non-factors.

--

There was a time that Ryan insulted me, Yes... and to be quite honest I somewhat deserved it as I was overwhelmed and over-reacted at that time.  It was a moment of emotion and it won't happen again. I could have explained my side more and what I was really getting at, but decided to drop it.  I know that it would make me look foolish, but in the end, I put the business before I put my pride.

I was angry at the fact that I had to keep needlessly defending myself to you (in full honesty, our thread is self-moderated solely because of you), especially in times when there's a lot of work going in the background and it resulted in another site owner jumping in to attack us at a bad time.

I lost my cool as I take a lot of pride in Moneypot.  It hasn't been as efficient as we'd like, but that's because there has been a lot of curveballs thrown along with a ton of underestimated work being done behind the scenes. It was never the plan to keep Moneypot as just a Bitcoin gaming wallet.

--

I have all my information in the public.  It has its cons of course (someone recently socially engineered my sim card from it), but I stand by the company and the work we put and will put into it.  I can't think of any other site owner that does that.

I am losing my patience having to listen to all the garbage you and a few others spew while sitting behind full anonymity with no consequences to your actions.

There is no need to attack others.  I put all my focus, energy, and time into my OWN company.  I believe you should too.

Please for once, listen to my advice.  Move on, move past, and accomplish great things on your own. Good luck and Good day.

and again the master of "EDIT" edited without putting an *edit and then the text

you need to learn to only write or shout if you are sure about what you wanna say/write so no edit is needed. but in case an edit is needed just put

edit
and here the text so everyone can see your original text and the edit. but we all know it i snot the first time you did this and now again

[JackpotRacer]

lets see what we got now and thx for participating

it just proves that JPR casino app was yes working out very well for our users and not a failure as MP owner Dogedigital wrote. he lives in a world of make believe. wake up and get real

1st   - BetterBets
2nd  - Jackpotracer
3rd  - Bit-Exo
4th  - Bubbles
5th  - BitDragon

IMHO the users did not understand that we asked for the most populated and not most popular MP app

the correct ranking would have been for 2016 (please correct me if you know better)

1st   -Bit-Exo
2nd  -BetterBets
3rd - Jackpotracer

no 4th and no 5th till 1000+

congrats to Bit-Exo for most populated MP app in 2016

and as it looks like Bit-Exo is right now also 1st in 2017 and 2nd is BetterBets and this time no 3rd and 4th etc up to 1000+ apps

[BKRAWKZ]

jackpot racer house of games not a failure!

itll do so good at betking!

long live jackpot racer house of games!!!!!

jackpot racer + betking = major success!!!!!!!!

[soldat13]

1st   - BetterBets
2nd  - Jackpotracer
3rd  - Bit-Exo
4th  - Bubbles
5th  - BitDragon

[soul-impact]

jackpot racer house of games not a failure!

itll do so good at betking!

long live jackpot racer house of games!!!!!

jackpot racer + betking = major success!!!!!!!!

It is a great success only if it has a combination, and that shows its inconvenience. Convenience is an important criterion for evaluating a website, I believe you know it. So, what you give is not feasible. We should aim to fully integrate the necessary features. There are so many casinos that the above people have said, read it all.

[JackpotRacer]

jackpot racer house of games not a failure!

itll do so good at betking!

long live jackpot racer house of games!!!!!

jackpot racer + betking = major success!!!!!!!!

It is a great success only if it has a combination, and that shows its inconvenience. Convenience is an important criterion for evaluating a website, I believe you know it. So, what you give is not feasible. We should aim to fully integrate the necessary features. There are so many casinos that the above people have said, read it all.

hehe please give it to us in ELI5

and the result is

first 3 of 1000 + apps

Betterbets
Bit Exo
Jackpotracer

if you like or not 

[MrCrank]

why bump thread?
because 2017 year now
thread about 2016..

[JackpotRacer]

why bump thread?
because 2017 year now
thread about 2016..

LOL you bumped the thread now

or do you suggest to do the 2017 voting now?

would be a waste of time because only 2 apps would be in top 5 of 1000 + apps