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March 05, 2017, 12:44:34 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2017, 01:29:10 PM by Nemo1024
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The commanders of the Donetsk Republican Army - Motorola and Givi - were well-known in the West. Both are now gone - undefeated in battle, yet killed by the terrorist acts of the Kiev regime. But even though they are gone, the resistance against the dark side lives on.

Below are two documentaries, commemorating Givi - Mikhail Sergeevich tolstysh, born in Ivailovsk, UkSSR, Soviet Union 19.07.1980, killed in Makeevka, Donetsk People's Republic 08.02.2017. One is a collection of interview fragment by Graham Philips - the only British freelance journalist to repost from Donbass. The film gets a good insight into the easy-going and hones personality of Givi.

Givi, as I Knew Him (with English subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnPtxltOFlg

The other documentary is by NewsFront, newly translated into English:

Donbass in the Line of Fire: Givi - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_SNvKzRCeo

And this is a short video from Russell "Texas" Bentley, reporting from Donbass:

Texas on the assault of Givi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L2l-hXxQKs

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A Hero of the DPR, the commander of the "Somali" Independent Ilovaysk Guards Motor-rifle (assault) battalion, Colonel Mikhail Tolstykh died today. Without question, he was one of the strongest officers in the DPR army, and he was a symbol of the entire resistance. This is a difficult loss.

After its failure near Avdeevka, the enemy is counting on this dastardly murder to break us. The most important thing right now is not to panic, but to strengthen our resolve and our cohesiveness. Givi will forever live in our hearts!

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 05, 2017, 12:56:42 PM
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You leave your Putin propaganda! It was the terrorists who themselves did not fight, but only mocked the prisoners. They gave rise to Russian authorities, she has destroyed them. Without these terrorists on the ground became clearer!
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You leave your Putin propaganda! It was the terrorists who themselves did not fight, but only mocked the prisoners. They gave rise to Russian authorities, she has destroyed them. Without these terrorists on the ground became clearer!

Oh, have we got a new breed of trolls here while I was away for a couple of months?

Terrorists, like these children and women, and the whole of the population of Donbass, that Poroshenko proclaimed as terrorists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKm4FnsWVbY

And this. See! "Terrorists"!
https://youtu.be/42RnhSS7WV0?t=190

You should also continue your line of thought and say that in 1941-1945, 27 million "terrorists" died while defending their land from the friendly German troops...

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 05, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
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You leave your Putin propaganda! It was the terrorists who themselves did not fight, but only mocked the prisoners. They gave rise to Russian authorities, she has destroyed them. Without these terrorists on the ground became clearer!

Oh, have we got a new breed of trolls here while I was away for a couple of months?

Terrorists, like these children and women, and the whole of the population of Donbass, that Poroshenko proclaimed as terrorists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKm4FnsWVbY

And this. See! "Terrorists"!
https://youtu.be/42RnhSS7WV0?t=190

You should also continue your line of thought and say that in 1941-1945, 27 million "terrorists" died while defending their land from the friendly German troops...
While you were gone, and the trolls were not. Maybe you'll go take a walk somewhere. Write posts in Russian branch. There are many people like you.
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You leave your Putin propaganda! It was the terrorists who themselves did not fight, but only mocked the prisoners. They gave rise to Russian authorities, she has destroyed them. Without these terrorists on the ground became clearer!

Oh, have we got a new breed of trolls here while I was away for a couple of months?

Terrorists, like these children and women, and the whole of the population of Donbass, that Poroshenko proclaimed as terrorists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKm4FnsWVbY

And this. See! "Terrorists"!
https://youtu.be/42RnhSS7WV0?t=190

You should also continue your line of thought and say that in 1941-1945, 27 million "terrorists" died while defending their land from the friendly German troops...
Probably the same thing happened in Chechnya. The Chechen people also wanted to be free, but the government and traitors had very different plans. No one will give up the oil.

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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.

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March 07, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
They had good reputation in local area, but not worldwide. Maybe Russia want to replace by people, who are responsible for many deaths.
It's also possible that they are killed by other separatists due to fight for authority. But I don't say it as pure fact, it's speculations.

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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
They had good reputation in local area, but not worldwide. Maybe Russia want to replace by people, who are responsible for many deaths.
It's also possible that they are killed by other separatists due to fight for authority. But I don't say it as pure fact, it's speculations.
I do think that Russia is preparing to place Plotnitsky and Zakharchenko Nadia Savchenko. Now her PR in those territories and when the time comes the Russians will destroy the bandits who have blood on their hands and try to put it.
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
They had good reputation in local area, but not worldwide. Maybe Russia want to replace by people, who are responsible for many deaths.
It's also possible that they are killed by other separatists due to fight for authority. But I don't say it as pure fact, it's speculations.
I do think that Russia is preparing to place Plotnitsky and Zakharchenko Nadia Savchenko. Now her PR in those territories and when the time comes the Russians will destroy the bandits who have blood on their hands and try to put it.
Maybe all the same people in the Donbas will begin to understand that they are manipulated, channeling in the right direction for politics, playing on their feelings and emotions. Previously, this region used politicians like sheep, to achieve their goals, and now it is happening.
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The first Prime Minister of Ukraine said that in the early 90s in the Donbass mines, about 40% of the miners were in prison. After the crisis I think these people became even more. You think these people can think of?
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
Probably you became a victim of Russian propaganda. The local population does not consider Plotnitsky and Zakharchenko as their leaders. These are ordinary criminals who Rob the Donbass. The war has not brought any prosperity to the region. Now they just do not know the truth, and intimidated by the bandits this hinders their return to Ukraine. But the truth Putin knows, and he doesn't like witnesses. Zakharchenko and Carpentry are doomed. It is only a matter of time.
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
They had good reputation in local area, but not worldwide. Maybe Russia want to replace by people, who are responsible for many deaths. It's also possible that they are killed by other separatists due to fight for authority. But I don't say it as pure fact, it's speculations.

If Russia wanted PR, then they could have sealed the DPR-Russia border and allowed the Kiev junta to invade Donbass. IMO, the only people interested in the murder of Givi was the Kiev junta. He was on the top of their hitlist, after videos were published showing him confronting the Kiev POWs in Donetsk airport.

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March 09, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

Pure rubbish. All of these leaders enjoyed a good reputation among the local population, and they had tens of thousands of followers. Why should Russia kill them and thereby antagonize the local population.
They had good reputation in local area, but not worldwide. Maybe Russia want to replace by people, who are responsible for many deaths. It's also possible that they are killed by other separatists due to fight for authority. But I don't say it as pure fact, it's speculations.

If Russia wanted PR, then they could have sealed the DPR-Russia border and allowed the Kiev junta to invade Donbass. IMO, the only people interested in the murder of Givi was the Kiev junta. He was on the top of their hitlist, after videos were published showing him confronting the Kiev POWs in Donetsk airport.
Then you are wrong. If Ukraine will restore control over the territory captured by the Russians and terrorists all odious personality can be captured and testify in court. Putin does not want this.
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Because of the crisis for money, the brother is fighting against his brother. Presidents are only pawns in this financed war.
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Because of the crisis for money, the brother is fighting against his brother. Presidents are only pawns in this financed war.
I think that the crisis has nothing to do with it. The crisis in the world exists but the way of the world not at war. Simply Putin is a fascist and wants to own the world. Do you not see?
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Then you are wrong. If Ukraine will restore control over the territory captured by the Russians and terrorists all odious personality can be captured and testify in court. Putin does not want this.

Even if the Kiev regime regains control of the DPR/LPR, there is no guarantee that the rebel leaders will be caught. They will just withdraw their forces (just like what they did in Kramatorsk and Sloviansk) and retreat to Russia.

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Then you are wrong. If Ukraine will restore control over the territory captured by the Russians and terrorists all odious personality can be captured and testify in court. Putin does not want this.

Even if the Kiev regime regains control of the DPR/LPR, there is no guarantee that the rebel leaders will be caught. They will just withdraw their forces (just like what they did in Kramatorsk and Sloviansk) and retreat to Russia.
And why in Russia is poorly controlled by the number of bandits which as predators have tasted blood and will now plunder and kill. Anyone out Russia does not want to see on your site.
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

The mystery behind their death is still unknown. Though there are many rumors spreading across the  saying they were killed by the terrorists but this idea as kinda absurd and possibly made to cover up something. On the other hand the russian goverment doing the dirty work to dispose of them is also a conspiracy theory that has no clear evidence or whatsoever. Hence their death remains a mystery up to this date.
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Killing of Givi probably was ordered by Moscow. And he is not first important separatist who was killed - Alexey Bednov, Yevgeny Ishchenko-Malysh, Roman Voznik-Cygan, Alexey Mozgovoy and some more was killed already. I wouldn't surprised if soon Zaharchenko and Plotnicky will be killed. I think Russia want to replace these leaders due to bad reputation of them.

The mystery behind their death is still unknown. Though there are many rumors spreading across the  saying they were killed by the terrorists but this idea as kinda absurd and possibly made to cover up something. On the other hand the russian goverment doing the dirty work to dispose of them is also a conspiracy theory that has no clear evidence or whatsoever. Hence their death remains a mystery up to this date.

All these men were on the hit list of the Right Sector. The Ukrainian neo-Nazis badly wanted them dead. Both Givi and Motorola were among the most important rebel commanders during the battle of Ilovaisk, which lead to around 2,000 Kiev deaths.

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