Major news - German and Polish government shutdown B24

[btcmind]

The war around the future of finance has officially begun.. Poland and Germany have shutdown the 2nd biggest exchange. Effectively the moneys of the customers were frozen.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2329063/Beschluss%20Scan_geschwaerzt.pdf

Our Service is momentarily not available.
1. All funds (EUR, USD, PLN, GBP & Bitcoins) are safe.
2. All withdrawals will be gradually processed chronologically from another bank account.
3. The Polish authority closed our Bank account in Poland.
4. Our lawyers are working with high pressure on a solution.

Die Gründe für die Schließung unserer Konten durch internationale Großbanken sind uns nun bekannt und rechtlich mehr als fragwürdig. Unsere Rechtsanwälte gehen mit aller Konsequenz gegen dieses Verhalten vor. Wir gehen davon aus, dass wir kurzfristig wieder vollständig handlungsfähig sind und alle Geschäfte mit noch größerem Engagement im Sinne aller Nutzer vorantreiben können. Die Sorgen der Großbanken sind uns ein zusätzlicher Ansporn dabei! Wir werden sie zeitnah über die weitere Entwicklung informieren.
(English this evening)

Beschluss Polen
Einspruch gegen den Beschluss
Durchsuchungsbefehl

[mobile4ever]

This is about regular fiat money, not bitcoin, right?

[BTC Books]

This is not news.  It is, and has been a topic of discussion on several threads for quite some number of days now.

[peepee]

This is not news.  It is, and has been a topic of discussion on several threads for quite some number of days now.

 

[btcmind]

This is not news.  It is, and has been a topic of discussion on several threads for quite some number of days now.

If you can't distinguish between pure speculation and official documents, well, it doesn't matter much anyway. If you look through the documents you will find how the government is involved and what scale the operation has. Usually government are very slow to act, but in this case there were many parties involved. Which probably means that the Polish and German government take the matter seriously. And of course the banks fully cooperate.

[morningtime]

Yeah, the PDF mentions that Hausdorf is accused of "phishing attacks", luring innocent German citizens to tranfer money onto his Polish/German bank accounts.

That's ridiculous. The legal basis to close his bank accounts is "to stop money laundering and financing terrorism".

Do you know what this sounds like? This sounds like the fiat system's attempt to kill Bitcoin by attacking online exchanges like BTC24, and accusing them of financing terrorism.

Luckily MtGox is in Japan. However - MtGox also has Polish accounts. These accounts are under threat of a similar close-down. Make sure not to transfer any more money via MtGox's Polish account! The European banking system is clearly trying to shut down Bitcoin by attacking our BTC exchanges.

[Bytas]

can someone translate the german part?

[Mikej0h]

I'm no german (we had it at school though), but on the last page they accuse him of money laundering if I understand correctly.

Note: just as clearification; accuse = not found guilty yet of course, they (governments etc) still have to prove he actually did that...

[Pangia]

Google translation of the above excerpt written in German:

The reasons for the closing of our accounts with major international banks are now known to us and legally more than questionable. Our lawyers go before the full consequences to this behavior. We assume that we are ready again fully operational and all transactions can drive with even greater commitment on behalf of all users. The concerns of the major banks are us an additional incentive there! We will inform you promptly of further development.

Decision Poland
Appeal against the decision
search warrant

[blockbet.net]

Pardon my stupidity, but which is it, German or Polish government? Apparently the site was Polish, so what does Germany have to do with it? They don't even have the same currency...

[btcmind]

Both!

[naphto]

Pardon my stupidity, but which is it, German or Polish government? Apparently the site was Polish, so what does Germany have to do with it? They don't even have the same currency...

They are both part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

[Newscastix]

This is not news.  It is, and has been a topic of discussion on several threads for quite some number of days now.

+1

The latest news is here http://board.btc24-help.com/

Which is simon is alive and a few people had contact with him over the last days.

[trepper]

If you can't distinguish between pure speculation and official documents, well, it doesn't matter much anyway. If you look through the documents you will find how the government is involved and what scale the operation has. Usually government are very slow to act, but in this case there were many parties involved. Which probably means that the Polish and German government take the matter seriously. And of course the banks fully cooperate.

Do you not even consider the fact that Simon, the owner of the site , could be the irresponsible culprit of all of this mess?