Bitcoin Forum
May 21, 2024, 01:11:00 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 »
  Print  
Author Topic: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not?  (Read 28078 times)
moooonu
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 560
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 08, 2017, 09:56:37 AM
 #61

Always do research about the site before depositing your money. How old is the site, what's the maximum profit it offer. Do verify your bets with faucets to see how provably fair the site's system is. Anything looks suspecious about the site don't deposit at all.
geopolisch
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1022
Merit: 511


View Profile
March 08, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
 #62

Always do research about the site before depositing your money. How old is the site, what's the maximum profit it offer. Do verify your bets with faucets to see how provably fair the site's system is.
You your suggestions are more than enough to safeguard ourselves. Instead of doing all these, I just to refer here in this forum about gambling sites reviews. I just do check reviews from established forum members and according to their opinion I will choose my gambling sites and I start with only faucets after a close watch I will decide about adding bankroll.

Anything looks suspecious about the site don't deposit at all.
But the problem, we are practically facing is after enjoying some months with own gambling site, when they are turning scam it would be really hard to find out their intentions. I could not find the any safety measurements against this other than just with the growing our capital and profits time to time.
maydna
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2940
Merit: 556


Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI


View Profile
March 08, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
 #63

Always do research about the site before depositing your money. How old is the site, what's the maximum profit it offer. Do verify your bets with faucets to see how provably fair the site's system is. Anything looks suspecious about the site don't deposit at all.

i agree with moooonu said because this is important for us before we make a plan to deposit our money in that sites. always make sure that we have many information about the site, we read about the reviews from other people, we know how much minimal and maximal deposit and withdraw and how long we can make withdrawal. without doing this, the chance for us to get scam is big and in the end, we only get loss all of our money without have a chance to make profit. so be careful before we make deposit, always doing research from many source.

█████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████████
██████▀███████████▀██████
█████▀███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███▀█████
████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
█████████████████████████
█████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████
█████████████████████████
██████▄███████████▄██████
█████████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████
 
    CRYPTO WEBNEOBANK    
▄▄███████▄▄
▄███████████████▄
▄██████░░░░░░░░░░███▄
▄████▄▄███████▄▄░░░██▄
▄█████████████████░░░██▄
████░░▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄░░░░░░░░██
████░░██████████░░░░░░░██
████░░▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀░░░░░░░░██
▀█████████████████░░░██▀
▀████▀▀███████▀▀░░░██▀
▀██████░░░░░░░░░░███▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀
Oilacris
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3038
Merit: 616


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
March 08, 2017, 01:54:48 PM
 #64

The first thing that i do research about is the community and player feedbacks related to the site because this is the main thing you could able to identify directly if the site is legit or not,community already know about the site and im assuring that those feedbacks are legit ones and not scripted you could definitely recognize which is false or not.
i think yes it is too much important to have good information about the sites where you are going invest your money and only then you can know about the site either it is scam or not.
This is really just a basic thing to do and all players would do this unless if you are careless enough to play directly without any researching on a certain site.Scams are everywhere and its really easy to find out which one if you do know how to search.

FlightyPouch
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 300


View Profile
March 08, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
 #65

Always do research about the site before depositing your money. How old is the site, what's the maximum profit it offer. Do verify your bets with faucets to see how provably fair the site's system is. Anything looks suspecious about the site don't deposit at all.

I do too, popular sites are being known by great gamblers and bitcoin users which is posted here in the Gambling thread, I find them there and look for the comments posted there. If the OP of that thread is not answering the questions of the users, it may be a scam. There are also instances that the prize of the game is so impossible to get, even their promos.

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
.
1xBit.com
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
███████████████
█████████████▀
█████▀▀       
███▀ ▄███     ▄
██▄▄████▌    ▄█
████████     
████████▌     
█████████    ▐█
██████████   ▐█
███████▀▀   ▄██
███▀   ▄▄▄█████
███ ▄██████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████▀▀▀█
██████████   
███████████▄▄▄█
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
         ▄█████
        ▄██████
       ▄███████
      ▄████████
     ▄█████████
    ▄███████
   ▄███████████
  ▄████████████
 ▄█████████████
▄██████████████
  ▀▀███████████
      ▀▀███
████
          ▀▀
          ▄▄██▌
      ▄▄███████
     █████████▀

 ▄██▄▄▀▀██▀▀
▄██████     ▄▄▄
███████   ▄█▄ ▄
▀██████   █  ▀█
 ▀▀▀
    ▀▄▄█▀
▄▄█████▄    ▀▀▀
 ▀████████
   ▀█████▀ ████
      ▀▀▀ █████
          █████
       ▄  █▄▄ █ ▄
     ▀▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
      ▀ ▄▄█████▄█▄▄
    ▄ ▄███▀    ▀▀ ▀▀▄
  ▄██▄███▄ ▀▀▀▀▄  ▄▄
  ▄████████▄▄▄▄▄█▄▄▄██
 ████████████▀▀    █ ▐█
██████████████▄ ▄▄▀██▄██
 ▐██████████████    ▄███
  ████▀████████████▄███▀
  ▀█▀  ▐█████████████▀
       ▐████████████▀
       ▀█████▀▀▀ █▀
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
!
kidoseagle0312
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1092
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 01:23:16 PM
 #66

I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?
I don't experience that so far every time I do gambled in the gambling sites. Perhaps, the only idea I could say about it to determine if the gambling was a scam site is if you deposit an amount in the bankroll but cannot start play in the games, it means you've been scam by the gambling sites because the site ate your capital investment.
michkima
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 896
Merit: 514


View Profile
March 09, 2017, 03:27:12 PM
 #67

I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?
I don't experience that so far every time I do gambled in the gambling sites. Perhaps, the only idea I could say about it to determine if the gambling was a scam site is if you deposit an amount in the bankroll but cannot start play in the games, it means you've been scam by the gambling sites because the site ate your capital investment.

That's a really blind and unreliable way to check the site though. Yo are saying that you have to blindly deposit an amount into the casino to see if you will be able to withdraw? What if they were legitimately taking deposits and letting you play for a while but after some time when they got their target investments from gamblers and investors. The answer to this thread is that it is hard to tell especially if the casino has been there for quite some time already.
wuvdoll
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1442
Merit: 1025



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 03:51:42 PM
 #68

The answer to this thread is that it is hard to tell especially if the casino has been there for quite some time already.
But when people start facing problems with those long running gambling site, they will start scam accusation against them everywhere. When we are referring this forum on choosing a gambling site definitely we could come across those reviews and we could easily avoid them.

Just referring people would be the easiest way to find and avoid scam gambling sites.
milewilda
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3122
Merit: 1129



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 03:59:18 PM
 #69

The answer to this thread is that it is hard to tell especially if the casino has been there for quite some time already.
But when people start facing problems with those long running gambling site, they will start scam accusation against them everywhere. When we are referring this forum on choosing a gambling site definitely we could come across those reviews and we could easily avoid them.

Just referring people would be the easiest way to find and avoid scam gambling sites.
Some scam accusations aren't always true because there are some cases those people who accuse cant provide some strong proofs which it somehow leads the public to make negative thoughts about the site and decreases its reputation.I do believe that reputable sites do experience this mistakes like technical stuffs or users problems but doesn't mean they are scammers directly.

JL421
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 510


View Profile
March 09, 2017, 04:32:49 PM
 #70

You can't in generally decide if a site is legit or scam unless someone invests in it. But yeah there are still some sites which advertise in the forum and they have scammed many of it's users by not sending their winnings.
The best way to be safe is invest mostly in a site which sends payment instantly to you that is the only way or check how old the site is or their reviews.
just_Alice
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 622



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 04:55:33 PM
 #71

You can't in generally decide if a site is legit or scam unless someone invests in it. But yeah there are still some sites which advertise in the forum and they have scammed many of it's users by not sending their winnings.
The best way to be safe is invest mostly in a site which sends payment instantly to you that is the only way or check how old the site is or their reviews.

I think investment in a site and depositing on a site to gamble with the money are two different things. I agree with what you've said about how to pick up a site where to gamble but what generally called investment is when you are not gambling but when you are investing to have a share of their profits.

The best way to know whether a site is legit is reading reviews about this site on bitcointalk or any other trusted forum (I personally know only this one).
Farma
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1001


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
March 09, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
 #72

You can't in generally decide if a site is legit or scam unless someone invests in it. But yeah there are still some sites which advertise in the forum and they have scammed many of it's users by not sending their winnings.
The best way to be safe is invest mostly in a site which sends payment instantly to you that is the only way or check how old the site is or their reviews.

you're probably right. we will not know the site is a scam or not until someone invest, or to the purpose of the site are met. yeah, but sometimes very difficult to distinguish sites that scam or not, but most sites are scam comes in the new site.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
FasTroy
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 250



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
 #73

You can research about it in the internet and you can find the right answer about this site, if it's spam or not. Anyways, there is things you can find it yourself by analyse the site.
I mean the https, facebook page or twitter page.
The mechanism of this site, etc...  and the best thing is by asking gamblers, which they gamble there.

emberbekas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1904
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 09, 2017, 07:08:07 PM
 #74

So far, I never got scammed by online gambling site. Mostly, before I decided to play at a gambling site, I will do a little research by reading users feedback about that site. If most people gave a good signal that the site is safe then I will try to play on there. Otherwise, I will stay away from that site.

doomistake
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1400
Merit: 571


View Profile
March 10, 2017, 06:02:00 AM
 #75

Asking is the best way to know if a certain gambling site is a scam or not, and you could say that it is just a scam because of its interface and there's a lot of things missing in their site. Also, you could tell by just looking at their history, and no one is playing on their site, stuffs like that.
But you could barely see a gambling site which is a scam or turned out to be scam because of insufficient funds or they have lost all of their Capital and Profit.
paul00
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 854
Merit: 257


View Profile
March 10, 2017, 06:29:59 AM
 #76

I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?

I`m checking it here in bitcointalk and check the feedback of other players. Just search the site or name of the page you want to know.
bhadz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2436
Merit: 565



View Profile WWW
March 10, 2017, 06:35:08 AM
 #77

You can research about it in the internet and you can find the right answer about this site, if it's spam or not. Anyways, there is things you can find it yourself by analyse the site.
I mean the https, facebook page or twitter page.
The mechanism of this site, etc...  and the best thing is by asking gamblers, which they gamble there.

OP is asking how to identify if a gambling site is a scam not a spam. Spam is very far and different from scam. And facebook pages and twitter page isn't that enough to know if that site is a scam. They will tell everything good about their site so they aren't going to say the real thing about their shady activity so that's not reliable.

▄▄███████████████████▄▄
▄█████████▀█████████████▄
███████████▄▐▀▄██████████
███████▀▀███████▀▀███████
██████▀███▄▄████████████
█████████▐█████████▐█████
█████████▐█████████▐█████
██████████▀███▀███▄██████
████████████████▄▄███████
███████████▄▄▄███████████
█████████████████████████
▀█████▄▄████████████████▀
▀▀███████████████████▀▀
Peach
BTC bitcoin
Buy and Sell
Bitcoin P2P
.
.
▄▄███████▄▄
▄████████
██████▄
▄██
█████████████████▄
▄███████
██████████████▄
███████████████████████
█████████████████████████
████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
▀███████████████████████▀
▀█████████████████████▀
▀██████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀

▀▀▀▀███▀▀▀▀
EUROPE | AFRICA
LATIN AMERICA
▄▀▀▀











▀▄▄▄


███████▄█
███████▀
██▄▄▄▄▄░▄▄▄▄▄
████████████▀
▐███████████▌
▐███████████▌
████████████▄
██████████████
███▀███▀▀███▀
.
Download on the
App Store
▀▀▀▄











▄▄▄▀
▄▀▀▀











▀▄▄▄


▄██▄
██████▄
█████████▄
████████████▄
███████████████
████████████▀
█████████▀
██████▀
▀██▀
.
GET IT ON
Google Play
▀▀▀▄











▄▄▄▀
veleten
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2030
Merit: 1106



View Profile
March 12, 2017, 01:12:41 AM
 #78

the best way to determine if a gambling site is scam or not is to deposit one bitcoin and ask for withdrawal  Grin
but in all seriousness nothing can get you prepared for an exit scam,although you can and should always
follow the guidelines before you deposit,it has been discussed in length in this topic
it is always better to use established old sites,even if they offer less promotions and bonuses
new sites have to run promotions to entice players,but at times they just turn scam or close

          ▄▄████▄▄
      ▄▄███▀    ▀███▄▄
   ▄████████▄▄▄▄████████▄
  ▀██████████████████████▀
▐█▄▄ ▀▀████▀    ▀████▀▀ ▄▄██
▐█████▄▄ ▀██▄▄▄▄██▀ ▄▄██▀  █
▐██ ▀████▄▄ ▀██▀ ▄▄████  ▄██
▐██  ███████▄  ▄████████████
▐██  █▌▐█ ▀██  ██████▀  ████
▐██  █▌▐█  ██  █████  ▄█████
 ███▄ ▌▐█  ██  ████████████▀
  ▀▀████▄ ▄██  ██▀  ████▀▀
      ▀▀█████  █  ▄██▀▀
         ▀▀██  ██▀▀
.WINDICE.████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
████
      ▄████████▀
     ▄████████
    ▄███████▀
   ▄███████▀
  ▄█████████████
 ▄████████████▀
▄███████████▀
     █████▀
    ████▀
   ████
  ███▀
 ██▀
█▀

██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
     ▄▄█████▄   ▄▄▄▄
    ██████████▄███████▄
  ▄████████████████████▌
 ████████████████████████
▐████████████████████████▌
 ▀██████████████████████▀
     ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
     ▄█     ▄█     ▄█
   ▄██▌   ▄██▌   ▄██▌
   ▀▀▀    ▀▀▀    ▀▀▀
       ▄█     ▄█
     ▄██▌   ▄██▌
     ▀▀▀    ▀▀▀

██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
                   ▄█▄
                 ▄█████▄
                █████████▄
       ▄       ██ ████████▌
     ▄███▄    ▐█▌▐█████████
   ▄███████▄   ██ ▀███████▀
 ▄███████████▄  ▀██▄▄████▀
▐█ ▄███████████    ▀▀▀▀
█ █████████████▌      ▄
█▄▀████████████▌    ▄███▄
▐█▄▀███████████    ▐█▐███▌
 ▀██▄▄▀▀█████▀      ▀█▄█▀
   ▀▀▀███▀▀▀
████
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
  ██
████


▄▄████████▄▄
▄████████████████▄
▄████████████████████▄
███████████████▀▀  █████
████████████▀▀      ██████
▐████████▀▀   ▄▄     ██████▌
▐████▀▀    ▄█▀▀     ███████▌
▐████████ █▀        ███████▌
████████ █ ▄███▄   ███████
████████████████▄▄██████
▀████████████████████▀
▀████████████████▀
▀▀████████▀▀
iePlay NoweiI
I
I
I
[/t
ufaiz50
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 502



View Profile
March 12, 2017, 01:21:52 AM
 #79

I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?
You can contact cs on the gambling site if no reply is usually within 2 x 24 hours you should doubt with the site, only a few users, or you can asking in the forums like bitcointalk.org. I recommend gambling on a site that already has a good reputation

.
..1xBit.com   Super Six..
▄█████████████▄
████████████▀▀▀
█████████████▄
█████████▌▀████
██████████  ▀██
██████████▌   ▀
████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
▀██████████████
███████████████
█████████████▀
█████▀▀       
███▀ ▄███     ▄
██▄▄████▌    ▄█
████████       
████████▌     
█████████    ▐█
██████████   ▐█
███████▀▀   ▄██
███▀   ▄▄▄█████
███ ▄██████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████▀▀▀█
██████████     
███████████▄▄▄█
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
         ▄█████
        ▄██████
       ▄███████
      ▄████████
     ▄█████████
    ▄███████
   ▄███████████
  ▄████████████
 ▄█████████████
▄██████████████
  ▀▀███████████
      ▀▀███
████
          ▀▀
          ▄▄██▌
      ▄▄███████
     █████████▀

 ▄██▄▄▀▀██▀▀
▄██████     ▄▄▄
███████   ▄█▄ ▄
▀██████   █  ▀█
 ▀▀▀
    ▀▄▄█▀
▄▄█████▄    ▀▀▀
 ▀████████
   ▀█████▀ ████
      ▀▀▀ █████
          █████
       ▄  █▄▄ █ ▄
     ▀▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
      ▀ ▄▄█████▄█▄▄
    ▄ ▄███▀    ▀▀ ▀▀▄
  ▄██▄███▄ ▀▀▀▀▄  ▄▄
  ▄████████▄▄▄▄▄█▄▄▄██
 ████████████▀▀    █ ▐█
██████████████▄ ▄▄▀██▄██
 ▐██████████████    ▄███
  ████▀████████████▄███▀
  ▀█▀  ▐█████████████▀
       ▐████████████▀
       ▀█████▀▀▀ █▀
.
Premier League
LaLiga
Serie A
.
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
Primeira Liga
.
..TAKE PART..
tribanogrami
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 251


Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data


View Profile
March 12, 2017, 01:42:37 AM
 #80

You can use google searh, forum search, SSL. Even design can show site scam or not (zombiewager)

Are they have support team? Have F.A.Q in site? Or deposit and use until win u can withdraw after win if there is no transfer then u lost and scammed Smiley

Best way is the forum search. If there is a gambling site accepted bitcoin there will be review in here. Good or bad reviews will give ideas.

Also there is a list ; https://gist.github.com/MRuy/a3a64bc870a320864557

        ▄▄▀▀▄▄
    ▄▄▀▀▄▄██▄▄▀▀▄▄
▄▄▀▀▄▄█████▄████▄▄▀▀▄▄
█▀▀█▄█████████████
█▄▄████▀   ▀██████
███████     █▄████
█████▀█▄   ▄██████
█▄█████▌   ▐█████
█████▀█     ██████
██▄███████████████
▀▀▄▄▀▀█████▀████▀▀▄▄▀▀
    ▀▀▄▄▀▀██▀▀▄▄▀▀
        ▀▀▄▄▀▀
PDATA
TOKEN
██
██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██
██
██
██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██
██
██
██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██
██
TELEGRAM     BITCOINTALK     FACEBOOK
MEDIUM    SLACK    TWITTER    YOUTUBE
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬   E M A I L   ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
██
██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██   ██

██   ██
██
██
Pages: « 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!