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April 20, 2013, 05:52:49 PM |
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Hey I'm trying some mining, just with my desktops here. I can get together about 3 Mh/s. Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, (I can hardly even mine litecoins) but i want to play. I'm trying to find someplace where I can get paid for hashing/mining. The last couple of nights I've mined Slush's pool, that's a HUGE mistake for such a low powered miner. I can't take any more like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fb0t6Y5B.jpg&t=665&c=L4GcUQ-YhURX_g) IS there a good pool with straight PPS no scoring or geometry or bullshit? It might take me a year to hit the BTC .01 minimum payout over there. I'm in the southwestern US. I'm not looking to feel like a "power miner" with my hash rate but if I'm pooling I'd like to get a few satoshis here and there. I've been messing with bitcoin for a couple of weeks and it would be nice to see a transaction in my wallet. Anyone have recent experience with low hash rates and P2Pool? I haven't got it running yet but I guess it should still be better than solo mining right? I mined a few shares at p2pool.org before I found out the site was a fake/trap (it's not just a p2pool node it's a pool with fees) but I never got credited a single share there. Or even showed up on any other p2pool page's stats. Even though others that appeared to be in the p2pool.org pool were. Advice o gurus? Thoughts from the rest of you? Thanks...
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bobsmoke
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April 20, 2013, 05:55:45 PM |
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Unfortunately with 3Mh/s you will not be able to process more than those small shares. You need to get a ATI GPU not to say a bigger CPU.
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HellDiverUK
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April 20, 2013, 06:05:52 PM |
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Thoughts from the rest of you?
Forget about it, you're just wasting your time and electricity.
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coinerd (OP)
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April 20, 2013, 06:08:36 PM |
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Thanks a first couple posts in with "all or nothing" statements.
I am not concerned with how few shares I generate, I'm concerned about hashing away for hours, generating shares, and getting 0 payout.
Does anyone recommend a reliable pool for straight PPS and will eventually pay me for my shares?
EDIT: 3rd "fuggedaboudit" post while I typed this. What a bunch of sourpusses.
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HellDiverUK
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April 20, 2013, 06:15:47 PM |
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Takes about a month to get 1BTC at ~600MH/s. With your 3MH/s it'd take 16 years. 16 years of mining to make £50. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) As I was saying....
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coinerd (OP)
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April 20, 2013, 07:07:52 PM |
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Takes about a month to get 1BTC at ~600MH/s. With your 3MH/s it'd take 16 years. 16 years of mining to make £50. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) As I was saying.... Thanks. I see you're trying to be helpful, unlike Vladimir who's straight trolling. ============================================================================================= Anybody with some on-topic feedback? I deleted the rest of this post because I don't want to play with trolls. I don't need to explain what I'm doing or justify it. ============================================================================================= I'm looking for a live, honest, straight PPS pool that plans to stick around. I haven't tried all of the pools in the list yet and would prefer a good recommendation than leaving a large trail of unclaimable satoshis against every pool i can find until I "settle in" somewhere.
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April 20, 2013, 07:08:19 PM |
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Where on Slush's website do you find that screen? I've been looking everywhere for it. At least to know that I'm doing something, even if no BTCs are coming in, at least I'm contributing something.
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April 20, 2013, 07:16:12 PM |
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Actually with that kind of processing power, any pool will be the same for you, of course payments will differ, but the difference is going to be so small, that you shouldn't bother.
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April 20, 2013, 07:17:31 PM |
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Estimated weekly income: .00118 (or less). Enough to pay for 1/10th of the electricity you're using.
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HellDiverUK
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April 20, 2013, 07:19:24 PM |
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Where on Slush's website do you find that screen? I've been looking everywhere for it.
"Statistics" link, third link down on the left.
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April 20, 2013, 07:21:45 PM |
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Where on Slush's website do you find that screen? I've been looking everywhere for it.
"Statistics" link, third link down on the left. I see that link, but see a different table. One that doesn't include the "your shares" etc. # Block found at Duration Total shares Block # Block value Validity 17594 2013-04-20 15:59:01 1:05:56 9044981 232266 25.57703536 75 confirmations left 17593 2013-04-20 14:53:05 1:21:26 11174330 232260 25.36380000 69 confirmations left 17592 2013-04-20 13:31:39 1:07:06 9135866 232257 25.31713310 66 confirmations left 17591 2013-04-20 12:24:33 2:29:55 20303652 232250 25.16449000 59 confirmations left
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April 20, 2013, 07:28:24 PM |
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No need for me to re-hash the obvious here.
To the OP: might want to look at triplemining.com. Medium sized pool with no fees. 1% goes into a jackpot fund that gets distributed weekly.
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HellDiverUK
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April 20, 2013, 07:29:39 PM |
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I see that link, but see a different table. One that doesn't include the "your shares" etc.
Are you logged in OK?
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coinerd (OP)
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April 20, 2013, 07:30:31 PM |
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wampa jabba are you logged in to the site?
I'm not trying to profit, thanks again for the honest numbers guys trying to help.
I'm going to be hashing for a while, I want to get paid for my hashing. This is perfectly reasonable economics. If you have the option of recovering some of your expenses vs. the option of recovering none of your expenses which would you select?
Also once I hit payout somewhere i have a few satoshis to play with.
Please note in the image I posted that most of my shares are receiving ZERO VALUE at slush's pool.
Please note that I'm not accusing slush of any wrongdoing, his pool uses a proprietary scoring system that is, among other possible things, time based. He's very clear about this and I believe I have seen him post that his pool is not the best option for slow hashers.
Just trying to find a solid, long term PPS pool that welcomes (or tolerates) slow hashers and has a history of some reliability.
Thanks mccminer I'll give it a shot.
I'm also interested in hearing real experience from people who have put slow machines into P2Pool.
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April 20, 2013, 07:40:15 PM |
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Yes, Logged in.
Login Password Found blocks Current shares Score Last share at Mhash/s* Stratum Suggested difficulty Actions XXX.WWX Pass 0 0 0 - 0 - 1 XXX.WWY Pass 0 0 0 - 0 - 1 XXX.WWZ Pass 0 0 0 4 days, 6 hours 0 - 1
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coinerd (OP)
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April 20, 2013, 07:51:00 PM |
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I see in the list that triplemining is actually PPLNS which I need to avoid as a slow hasher. This is why I haven't gone to their site. I went to deepbit site, it says that you can select PPS or Proportional so I'll be signing up and giving their PPS pool a try. I avoided them because I didn't realize it was a choice and clearly I can't be mining for proportional payouts in a large pool ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ================================================================================================ Wampa_Jabba I open chrome and type in "mining.bitcoin.cz" to get to slush's site. Then I click on the "Statistics" link in the left column and see that table, under a chart of pool performance information. It's possible that it's not rendering that column for you, since with a last share at 4 days ago, there would be no data? I would suggest that you ask in the pool's forum thread maybe slush or someone can tell you.
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April 20, 2013, 08:09:40 PM |
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Why do you want to mine with 3Mh/s? Even mining with less than 1000 is starting to have no sense due to the increase on difficulty.
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The worst enemy of Bitcoin is Mt.Gox exchange.
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April 20, 2013, 08:17:19 PM |
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I can understand exactly why anyone would want to mine even at 3Mh/s! Exploration, a sense of wonder, the joy that comes from setting something up and it works. Not everyone must be financially motivated to explore. It's not the Destination, it's the Journey! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 20, 2013, 08:20:33 PM |
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As far as i know deepbit offers pay per share. They have a minimum cashout of .01 BTC last time I checked. Hope this addressed your questions.
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