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March 08, 2017, 06:01:28 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
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LFC_Bitcoin
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March 08, 2017, 06:17:27 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
You don't need to do anything if you don't want to. Your coins are totally safe in whatever version of Core that you're currently running. Edit - And migrating to BU is pointless atm, consensus is a million miles away. |
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franky1
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March 08, 2017, 06:29:57 PM |
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its the case of reading the code and seeing what things have changed and what you agree on.
for instance if you dont agree on either side dont upgrade to either new version.
if however you realise things like
core v0.13.2 minimum fee relay was 0.00001000 ($0.012)
but now
core v0.14.0 minimum fee relay is 0.00005000 ($0.06)
and you disagree with being part of the nodes that will only relay transactions with higher fee's than before.. then stick with what you have or go for a version that doesnt have such fee war inducing new rules
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AngryDwarf (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 06:32:26 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
You don't need to do anything if you don't want to. Your coins are totally safe in whatever version of Core that you're currently running. Edit - And migrating to BU is pointless atm, consensus is a million miles away. User node count could be used as another indication of user consensus, but I don't see where Bitcoin Unlimited is listed as a wallet at bitcoin.org, so it might not be the most reliable indicator. I am assuming that the blockchain/wallet directory structure is the same, is this correct? Is the official website https://www.bitcoinunlimited.info ? I probably know how to go about it, but some might want step by step instructions. And of course I want to make sure I am not missing something. I could downgrade to core 0.12.x and play with -maxmempool, -mempoolexpiry and -minrelaytxfee parameters. |
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AngryDwarf (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 06:33:42 PM |
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its the case of reading the code and seeing what things have changed and what you agree on.
for instance if you dont agree on either side dont upgrade to either new version.
if however you realise things like
core v0.13.2 minimum fee relay was 0.00001000 ($0.012)
but now
core v0.14.0 minimum fee relay is 0.00005000 ($0.06)
and you disagree with being part of the nodes that will only relay transactions with higher fee's than before.. then stick with what you have or go for a version that doesnt have such fee war inducing new rules
Trying to hide the number of unconfirmed transactions by not relaying them is not my idea of a solution. |
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March 08, 2017, 06:37:57 PM |
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You'll have to look at both Core and Unlimited and decide for yourself which provides the features you prefer.
At the protocol lvel, they are currently compatible with each other, so it doesn't matter much which you run. If protocol changes activate and you change your mind, it isn't difficult to switch.
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unamis76
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March 08, 2017, 06:53:33 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
1st question has already been answered, do as you wish. 2nd question... Recommended steps are the same as Bitcoin: compile from source or at least verify binaries before running. There are no risks associated as long as you agree with whatever consensus rules your clients "defends". |
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AngryDwarf (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 06:54:55 PM |
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You'll have to look at both Core and Unlimited and decide for yourself which provides the features you prefer.
At the protocol lvel, they are currently compatible with each other, so it doesn't matter much which you run. If protocol changes activate and you change your mind, it isn't difficult to switch.
I can't pick and choose individual features so would have to decide on overall features. Think I might have read core 0.14 saves mempool data between restarts which is probably a very good idea. Could I install both, and either fire one version up or the other over the same blockchain/wallet directory structure though? Or could that very well change before any consensus is achieved? |
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March 08, 2017, 07:02:29 PM |
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Im in the same boat, Im still running an old version of core. Id be happy to go with segwit but i feel already that the 1mb blocks as well as segwit is too little. If it was even brought up to 2mb plus segwit id probably upgrade straight away.
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March 08, 2017, 07:17:37 PM |
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You'll have to look at both Core and Unlimited and decide for yourself which provides the features you prefer.
At the protocol lvel, they are currently compatible with each other, so it doesn't matter much which you run. If protocol changes activate and you change your mind, it isn't difficult to switch.
I can't pick and choose individual features so would have to decide on overall features. Think I might have read core 0.14 saves mempool data between restarts which is probably a very good idea. Could I install both, and either fire one version up or the other over the same blockchain/wallet directory structure though? Or could that very well change before any consensus is achieved? first of all 1. get the privkeys/seed and copy them. i dont mean just copy and paste the wallet.dat i mean ensure you have it copied down in other formats too and also copy the wallet.dat to a couple different locations/media devices (incase one or more gets corrupt) 2. then update |
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March 08, 2017, 07:36:36 PM |
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I maintain a bitcoin-core RPM that links against LibreSSL on CentOS 7.
I'm sorely tempted to rebuild 14 with a 2 MB block and undo the fee increase, just so people who use my build won't be hurt by what core developers are doing, and so clients will work when blocks > 1 MB come out.
I'm also tempted to just not build 0.14.x at all and only offer BU.
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March 08, 2017, 07:45:23 PM |
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Recent days contribution of about 10% of the bitcoin network bitcoin unlimited have gained strength. Based on this small migration towards bitcoin unlimited might be felt a little.
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megynacuna
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March 08, 2017, 08:14:08 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
Why don't you wait for an agreement to be reached as to the future direction of Bitcoin before you make a move? If I were you I wouldn't rush to BU yet but will still run my Bitcoin core until a decision is made. |
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March 08, 2017, 08:35:03 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
Why don't you wait for an agreement to be reached as to the future direction of Bitcoin before you make a move? If I were you I wouldn't rush to BU yet but will still run my Bitcoin core until a decision is made. But by running BU, you can follow consensus regardless of the outcome of the block size limit debate. With Core, you'll be forked from the main chain if we get bigger blocks. Furthermore, the more nodes today that are ready and willing to accept larger blocks, the easier it will be for the miners to start producing them. |
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AngryDwarf (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 08:48:09 PM |
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With the release of bitcoin core 0.14, do I upgrade bitcoin core or migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited?
Should I decided to migrate to Bitcoin Unlimited, what are the recommended steps or risks associated in performing this operation?
Why don't you wait for an agreement to be reached as to the future direction of Bitcoin before you make a move? If I were you I wouldn't rush to BU yet but will still run my Bitcoin core until a decision is made. But by running BU, you can follow consensus regardless of the outcome of the block size limit debate. With Core, you'll be forked from the main chain if we get bigger blocks. Furthermore, the more nodes today that are ready and willing to accept larger blocks, the easier it will be for the miners to start producing them. Trying to find an idiots guide to safely migrating from bitcoin core to bitcoin unlimited. I like the fact that my private keys are encrypted, so I need to be extremely careful with them if I have to dump them in native format to migrate. |
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March 08, 2017, 08:53:06 PM |
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Trying to find an idiots guide to safely migrating from bitcoin core to bitcoin unlimited.
What operating system? As far as I know, Core and Unlimited are fully compatible at the moment. You upgrade from Core to Unlimited the same way as you would upgrade from an old version of Core to a new version. Step 1. Create a backup of your wallet just in case anything unexpected happens. Step 2. Shut down your current version. Step 3. Install the new software in the proper directory for your operating system. Step 4. Start the new software up. Done. |
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March 08, 2017, 09:26:01 PM |
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Trying to find an idiots guide to safely migrating from bitcoin core to bitcoin unlimited.
What operating system? As far as I know, Core and Unlimited are fully compatible at the moment. You upgrade from Core to Unlimited the same way as you would upgrade from an old version of Core to a new version. Step 1. Create a backup of your wallet just in case anything unexpected happens. Step 2. Shut down your current version. Step 3. Install the new software in the proper directory for your operating system. Step 4. Start the new software up. Done. It should be as easy as Danny describes, but it would be great to have a better write up that includes screenshots. If you're using Windows or Mac (not Linux) and if you're interested in earning a bounty while you migrate, take screen shots and document the process that you went through, and then write a brief "idiots guide to safely migrating from Bitcoin Core to Bitcoin Unlimited" and post as a new thread here or on Medium, and I can send you $100 - $150 from our outreach fund (actual amount will depend on the quality of the finished product and be at my discretion). |
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AngryDwarf (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 09:32:06 PM |
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It should be as easy as Danny describes, but it would be great to have a better write up that includes screenshots. If you're using Windows or Mac (not Linux) and if you're interested in earning a bounty while you migrate, take screen shots and document the process that you went through, and then write a brief "idiots guide to safely migrating from Bitcoin Core to Bitcoin Unlimited" and post as a new thread here or on Medium, and I can send you $100 - $150 from our outreach fund (actual amount will depend on the quality of the finished product and be at my discretion).
I use both windows and linux. My nodes aren't pruned, and I'm not on 0.14 (which introduces compact blocks). Could any of these represent issues for those who have? |
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March 08, 2017, 09:35:40 PM |
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it would be great to have a better write up that includes screenshots. If you're using Windows or Mac (not Linux) and if you're interested in earning a bounty while you migrate, take screen shots and document the process that you went through, and then write a brief "idiots guide to safely migrating from Bitcoin Core to Bitcoin Unlimited" and post as a new thread here or on Medium, and I can send you $100 - $150 from our outreach fund (actual amount will depend on the quality of the finished product and be at my discretion).
I may take you up on that. |
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