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March 08, 2017, 06:34:18 PM Last edit: March 10, 2017, 09:19:23 AM by superiorus |
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Hello I will tell you the short story: One of my (recent made) friends entered in the bitcoin world. He is a newbie and he called his new friend (me) to help him with some advices: how to earn, buy, exchange/trade bitcoins, mine, bet, play games for bitcoin, etc. He know that I own Bitvertise.net and he wanted to buy it for 1000 eur and make his entry in bitcoin advertising world. I told him I wont sell it (now I regret), and he asked me in what he can invest some money (a bitcoin related project). I suggest to my friend to make something related to Bitcoin gambling. I found these guys - Bitbox.site - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794654 - they have a bitcoin platform for gambling, my friend saw it, like it and since he does not speak english (well) he told me that I must talk with Bitbox support, buy the platform and take care off all the necesarry stuff until is ready to be launched. I have contacted @bitcoinplay_xyz ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726116) and chat with him via Skype. After a long talk we agree to buy their platform for 300$ (they offered a Christmas discount) paid in 3 equal parts. They sent me a invoice (attached) and I paid 100$ as we agree on 28.12.2016: https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/56979454a51d430ba4441bd94ef8c77dd02e0e289764d2bdd65b6e471708c7f7They start to "work" They "worked" for 20 days, they installed all kind of shits on my server, fu*ked my other websites, and finaly they told me that their software can't run on my dedicated server and they will transfer the files to their servers wich are 100% compatible (and they will offer 1 year of hosting) Another 7-8 days and in the end they made it. The website url is: www.bitcoingamesclub.com (now is offline, because the scammers are gone) My friend was happy. We paid the second invoice for 100$ (attached) on 31.01.2017: https://blockchain.info/tx/b62eb9f8382655a01001a1456f974ff1e51b763fcce463d32bc3ea2bf63b4e30The website was live on 18.02.2017. After 3 days my friend call me (it was desperate) and tell me that someone won 10 btc on his website. I have contacted BitBox, they admit that there was a big bug in Crash game, they removed that game and they told us that it will be fixed soon. We continue the conversation with BitBox team via email (when they answer) and I told them that they ruined our reputation and we agree that they will make a roulette game integrated with Moneypot. They offered a 300$ price (50% discount) and they deducted 100$ remaining payment from the intial project. My friend agree, they send us a invoice (attached) and we paid 300$: https://blockchain.info/tx/d5d6f226207cda147d6c71b54e86c83348c4c3213ca577869ba793e30141f8b6After we pay the last 300$: no more replys from Bitbox (12 days passed) via email, PM on Bitcointalk, Skype Now they are gone! In my opinion these bugs can be placed by BitBox itself in order to scam the future casino owners. The result: 500$ lost and our reputation altered because of these scammers.We know that there are other users which are scammed too (some of them posted in Bitbox thread) I will post all the proofs (all we know about these scammers) and I will add more proofs as soon I have here: Invoice 1: https://s12.postimg.org/5jauu83l9/invoice1.jpgPaid here: https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/56979454a51d430ba4441bd94ef8c77dd02e0e289764d2bdd65b6e471708c7f7Invoice 2: https://s13.postimg.org/5t8hz6ifr/invoice2.jpgPaid here: https://blockchain.info/tx/b62eb9f8382655a01001a1456f974ff1e51b763fcce463d32bc3ea2bf63b4e30Invoice 3 (Moneypot): https://s11.postimg.org/k2ejceqdf/invoice_moneypot_roulette_300.jpgPaid here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d5d6f226207cda147d6c71b54e86c83348c4c3213ca577869ba793e30141f8b6Email conversation 1: https://s8.postimg.org/g35dzbcxh/email_conversation.jpgEmail conversation 2: https://s30.postimg.org/dw43ijbhd/email_conversation2.jpgBitbox.site hosting infos (same digitalocean server in Germany): https://s9.postimg.org/fx6g4a41b/bitbox_hosting.jpgBitcoingamesclub.com hosting infos (same digitalocean server in Germany): https://s13.postimg.org/gill3ga1j/bitcoingamesclub_hosting.jpgA working copy of their script - the domain (funbit.us) is registered by ITBOX UG: https://s22.postimg.org/mvvn7ot35/funbit_us.jpgThey are stupid too ... they did not changed the admin login infos: http://funbit.us/admin/login username: demo password: demo Their Website (Croatia): http://itbox.com.hrSome resources on their website: http://itbox.com.hr/bitcoin/BitBox Skype support ID: https://s15.postimg.org/qq4wd7gdn/Bit_Box_Skype.jpgZagreb Office ITBox d.o.o Ivana Zahara 3 10000 Zagreb (385) 989653089 contact@itbox.com.hr
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Zepher
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March 08, 2017, 06:55:30 PM |
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How is it possible that so many (of the 28) users have a negative balance? (I have never run a gambling site, so excuse my ignorance here). Is this a test site, or an actual "casino"? Judging from the fact there is a Bitcoin wallet with API keys, I will for the time being assume this is a "real" site.
I used "demo" & "demo" to login and have a look around.
By the way, sorry for your loss. I will give bitcoinplay_xyz a tag until this is resolved.
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My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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Jartsu
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March 08, 2017, 06:59:22 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
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superiorus (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 07:04:02 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
The files are on their server in Germany. Anyway there is not script (like php, mysql, etc), they say it use Java ... sockets .. too complicated.
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March 08, 2017, 07:19:41 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
The files are on their server in Germany. Anyway there is not script (like php, mysql, etc), they say it use Java ... sockets .. too complicated. Would appreciate an answer to my questions as well.. Thanks
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My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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March 08, 2017, 07:23:22 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
The files are on their server in Germany. Anyway there is not script (like php, mysql, etc), they say it use Java ... sockets .. too complicated. Hmm..I have never heard a such site could be built on Java, but seems like it's true that you learn something new everyday.
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March 08, 2017, 07:27:54 PM |
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I can confirm that they scammed us. I have tried contacting them with a new email and they were replying instantly.
The one who introduced himself as Matthias, whose full name is Jörg Matthias seems to be the owner or something. Found this after I looked up their company details. I'll be digging more soon.
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superiorus (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 07:44:54 PM Last edit: March 08, 2017, 08:04:26 PM by superiorus |
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I can confirm that they scammed us. I have tried contacting them with a new email and they were replying instantly.
The one who introduced himself as Matthias, whose full name is Jörg Matthias seems to be the owner or something. Found this after I looked up their company details. I'll be digging more soon.
Same Matthias reply to my last emails too (until they stopped). See this image: https://s22.postimg.org/mvvn7ot35/funbit_us.jpgThat domain which is still active is registered by ITBOX UG from Munchen, Germany. We have a email there: ivanreif@gmail.comSearching in Google I found this: https://www.facebook.com/graffiti.munich/posts/1137371253015516The guy is from Zagreb, Croatia and it seems is living in Munchen, Germany. ITBOX UG has a YouTube account where the script is presented: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQrkGRwNHl3wz_CJ2ijGEfg
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March 08, 2017, 08:35:26 PM |
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Hello I will tell you the short story: One of my (recent made) friends entered in the bitcoin world. He is a newbie and he called his new friend (me) to help him with some advices: how to earn, buy, exchange/trade bitcoins, mine, bet, play games for bitcoin, etc. He know that I own Bitvertise.net and he wanted to buy it for 1000 eur and make his entry in bitcoin advertising world. I told him I wont sell it (now I regret), and he asked me in what he can invest some money (a bitcoin related project). I suggest to my friend to make something related to Bitcoin gambling. I found these guys - Bitbox.site - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794654 - they have a bitcoin platform for gambling, my friend saw it, like it and since he does not speak english he told me that I must talk with Bitbox support, buy the platform and take care off all the necesarry stuff until is ready to be launched. I have contacted @bitcoinplay_xyz ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726116) and chat with him via Skype. After a long talk we agree to buy their platform for 300$ paid in 3 equal parts. They sent me a invoice (attached) and I paid 100$ as we agree on 28.12.2016: https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/56979454a51d430ba4441bd94ef8c77dd02e0e289764d2bdd65b6e471708c7f7They start to "work" They "worked" for 20 days, they installed all kind of shits on my server, fu*ked my other websites, and finaly they told me that their software can't run on my dedicated server and they will transfer the files to their servers wich are 100% compatible (and they will offer 1 year of hosting) Another 7-8 days and in the end they made it. The website url is: www.bitcoingamesclub.com (now is offline, because the scammers are gone) My friend was happy. We paid the second invoice (100$) on 31.01.2017: https://blockchain.info/tx/b62eb9f8382655a01001a1456f974ff1e51b763fcce463d32bc3ea2bf63b4e30The website was live on 18.02.2017. After 3 days my friend call me (it was desperate) and tell me that someone won 10 btc on his website. I have contacted BitBox, they admit that there was a big bug in Crash game, they removed that game and they told us that it will be fixed soon. We continue the conversation with BitBox team via email (when they answer) and I told them that they ruined our reputation and we agree that they will make a roulette game integrated with Moneypot. They offered a 300$ price (50% discount) and they deducted 100$ remaining payment from the intial project. My friend agree, we pay 300$: https://blockchain.info/tx/d5d6f226207cda147d6c71b54e86c83348c4c3213ca577869ba793e30141f8b6After we pay the last 300: no more replys from Bitbox (12 days passed) Now they are gone! In my opinion these bugs can be placed by BitBox itself in order to scam the future casino owners. The result: 500$ lost and our reputation altered because of these scammers.We know that there are other users which are scammed too (some of them posted in Bitbox thread) I will post all the proofs (all we know about these scammers) and I will add more proofs as soon I have here: Invoice 1: https://s12.postimg.org/5jauu83l9/invoice1.jpgPaid here: https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/56979454a51d430ba4441bd94ef8c77dd02e0e289764d2bdd65b6e471708c7f7Invoice 2: https://s13.postimg.org/5t8hz6ifr/invoice2.jpgPaid here: https://blockchain.info/tx/b62eb9f8382655a01001a1456f974ff1e51b763fcce463d32bc3ea2bf63b4e30Invoice 3 (Moneypot): https://s11.postimg.org/k2ejceqdf/invoice_moneypot_roulette_300.jpgPaid here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d5d6f226207cda147d6c71b54e86c83348c4c3213ca577869ba793e30141f8b6Email conversation 1: https://s8.postimg.org/g35dzbcxh/email_conversation.jpgEmail conversation 2: https://s30.postimg.org/dw43ijbhd/email_conversation2.jpgBitbox.site hosting infos (same digitalocean server in Germany): https://s9.postimg.org/fx6g4a41b/bitbox_hosting.jpgBitcoingamesclub.com hosting infos (same digitalocean server in Germany): https://s13.postimg.org/gill3ga1j/bitcoingamesclub_hosting.jpgA working copy of their script - the domain (funbit.us) is registered by ITBOX UG: https://s22.postimg.org/mvvn7ot35/funbit_us.jpgThey are stupid too ... they did not changed the admin login infos: http://funbit.us/admin/login username: demo password: demo Their Website (Croatia): http://itbox.com.hrSome resources on their website: http://itbox.com.hr/bitcoin/BitBox Skype support ID: https://s15.postimg.org/qq4wd7gdn/Bit_Box_Skype.jpgZagreb Office ITBox d.o.o Ivana Zahara 3 10000 Zagreb (385) 989653089 contact@itbox.com.hrThey have updated the Whois details of funbit.us only on march 8th it seems.. Let me post my story of getting scammed by these thieves shortly...
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superiorus (OP)
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March 08, 2017, 09:21:57 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
The files are on their server in Germany. Anyway there is not script (like php, mysql, etc), they say it use Java ... sockets .. too complicated. Hmm..I have never heard a such site could be built on Java, but seems like it's true that you learn something new everyday. Here is what they say: "Platform is developed using Java Spring Boot Enterprise framework. The system has Cloud architecture with microservice design. Database used is MySQL with Hibernate ORM. All the messaging is processed using websocket protocol for real-time communication and excellent playing expirence. All components of the system are horizontally and vertically scalable. Entire platform is behind NGNIX web server and protected by firwall with CloudFlare option."
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March 08, 2017, 10:54:32 PM |
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Woah, I though something "fucked up" will happen with that site, the complaints started a bit ago. Did you ever even got the files? or they wanted to install it on their server because so no one can have the files?
The files are on their server in Germany. Anyway there is not script (like php, mysql, etc), they say it use Java ... sockets .. too complicated. Hmm..I have never heard a such site could be built on Java, but seems like it's true that you learn something new everyday. Bitbox uses Apache-Coyote(Tomcat) not NGINX as their server which means its true that they uses Java as their backend, they uses .JSP (javaserver pages) which is similar .PHP or .ASP websites. Tho i dont believe them that their site/games was made carefully and by a professional, i do believe the sites/codes where just built in a few days/weeks. Read my review of their site here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794654.msg18099550#msg18099550They also have tried to sell the same package last August 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1581241.msg15876388Sorry for the loss. -Uni
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March 08, 2017, 11:16:05 PM |
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Yeah they were full of lies
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March 09, 2017, 01:59:21 AM |
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One of my (recent made) friends entered in the bitcoin world. He is a newbie and he called his new friend (me) to help him with some advices: how to earn, buy, exchange/trade bitcoins, mine, bet, play games for bitcoin, etc. He know that I own Bitvertise.net and he wanted to buy it for 1000 eur and make his entry in bitcoin advertising world. I told him I wont sell it (now I regret), and he asked me in what he can invest some money (a bitcoin related project). I suggest to my friend to make something related to Bitcoin gambling. I found these guys - Bitbox.site - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794654 - they have a bitcoin platform for gambling, my friend saw it, like it and since he does not speak english he told me that I must talk with Bitbox support, buy the platform and take care off all the necesarry stuff until is ready to be launched. I'm really sorry your friend was scammed this way. If your friend is still interested in getting into bitcoin gambling, I'd be happy to give him a complete copy of bustabit source for free to get started (something I normally charge 2 BTC for). It wouldn't come with support or anything, but if he or your are familiar with node.js and postgres it's not overly hard to run.
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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March 09, 2017, 04:10:32 AM |
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One of my (recent made) friends entered in the bitcoin world. He is a newbie and he called his new friend (me) to help him with some advices: how to earn, buy, exchange/trade bitcoins, mine, bet, play games for bitcoin, etc. He know that I own Bitvertise.net and he wanted to buy it for 1000 eur and make his entry in bitcoin advertising world. I told him I wont sell it (now I regret), and he asked me in what he can invest some money (a bitcoin related project). I suggest to my friend to make something related to Bitcoin gambling. I found these guys - Bitbox.site - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794654 - they have a bitcoin platform for gambling, my friend saw it, like it and since he does not speak english he told me that I must talk with Bitbox support, buy the platform and take care off all the necesarry stuff until is ready to be launched. I'm really sorry your friend was scammed this way. If your friend is still interested in getting into bitcoin gambling, I'd be happy to give him a complete copy of bustabit source for free to get started (something I normally charge 2 BTC for). It wouldn't come with support or anything, but if he or your are familiar with node.js and postgres it's not overly hard to run. I am scammed the same way for around 1700 USD. Can you please be kind enough to share the bustabit source?
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March 09, 2017, 04:48:05 AM |
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Hi everyone, We also have a copy of their 3 games (not working of course) on a server as we planned to become an affiliate for Bitbox to help sell the software in the future. Being an affiliate for Bitcoin Gambling sites is our normal business and gambling software seemed like an area we could also get into. I refused to write any content about their site or the software on this forum or our website until we had a site that was 100% working. That way I could feel confident that the product was not a scam and be happy to promote it. The correspondence with Bitbox has been slow and last I heard from them was about a week back. I have actually spoken to one of their coders on skype before. He was a nice sounding technical guy but didn't know a lot specifically about Bitcoin Dice. I noticed a lot of issues would be buyers could have with the software that seemed a bit strange. I won't list them all but some were incredibly obvious like not being able to roll under and over, not being able to set a max possible win as opposed to a max bet and having investors only get a share of the profits not 100%. I know they are flat out as lots of people have been buying their software so I still believe there is a chance they could come through and get all the back work done. My suggestion is that no one orders anything further from these guys until they catch up on previous work done. If the work is finally done then we should take back the scam accusation (assuming the software actually works) and if they don't get it done at least no more people will lose their money. If there is a big list of people who bought the software and it is not working, maybe you could all get together and actually get a trusted programmer to get at least one working model for everyone (just thinking out loud here). If I knew someone who could do it and it wasn't too expensive I would even consider paying for it from www.bitcoingamblingreviews.com (and later become your affiliate ). I am still trying to contact Bitbox to get an update and will let everyone here know if I hear anything. Please don't PM me with regards to your issues with Bitbox (I have been getting a few everyday) and make them visible in a thread like this instead. Cheers, Bitcoin Gambling Reviews
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March 09, 2017, 04:55:06 AM |
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Hi everyone, We also have a copy of their 3 games (not working of course) on a server as we planned to become an affiliate for Bitbox to help sell the software in the future. Being an affiliate for Bitcoin Gambling sites is our normal business and gambling software seemed like an area we could also get into. I refused to write any content about their site or the software on this forum or our website until we had a site that was 100% working. That way I could feel confident that the product was not a scam and be happy to promote it. The correspondence with Bitbox has been slow and last I heard from them was about a week back. I have actually spoken to one of their coders on skype before. He was a nice sounding technical guy but didn't know a lot specifically about Bitcoin Dice. I noticed a lot of issues would be buyers could have with the software that seemed a bit strange. I won't list them all but some were incredibly obvious like not being able to roll under and over, not being able to set a max possible win as opposed to a max bet and having investors only get a share of the profits not 100%. I know they are flat out as lots of people have been buying their software so I still believe there is a chance they could come through and get all the back work done. My suggestion is that no one orders anything further from these guys until they catch up on previous work done. If the work is finally done then we should take back the scam accusation (assuming the software actually works) and if they don't get it done at least no more people will lose their money. If there is a big list of people who bought the software and it is not working, maybe you could all get together and actually get a trusted programmer to get at least one working model for everyone (just thinking out loud here). If I knew someone who could do it and it wasn't too expensive I would even consider paying for it from www.bitcoingamblingreviews.com (and later become your affiliate ). I am still trying to contact Bitbox to get an update and will let everyone here know if I hear anything. Please don't PM me with regards to your issues with Bitbox (I have been getting a few everyday) and make them visible in a thread like this instead. Cheers, Bitcoin Gambling Reviews please let us know if you hear from them. In my case they didn't even give the software which was available on their website for sale. They said they will deliver a custom version. But immediately after the payment they stopped responding to me. You can read the full story in the link below: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1818762.0
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March 09, 2017, 04:58:56 AM |
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please let us know if you hear from them. In my case they didn't even give the software which was available on their website for sale. They said they will deliver a custom version. But immediately after the payment they stopped responding to me. You can read the full story in the link below: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1818762.0Thanks for sharing the link and will keep you posted if I hear anything
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March 09, 2017, 05:03:59 AM |
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please let us know if you hear from them. In my case they didn't even give the software which was available on their website for sale. They said they will deliver a custom version. But immediately after the payment they stopped responding to me. You can read the full story in the link below: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1818762.0Thanks for sharing the link and will keep you posted if I hear anything If you know a trusted programmer please share here
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March 09, 2017, 05:06:36 AM |
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I don't know a trusted programmer who could do this type of project unfortunately.
I am not even sure if you can all download the installed games on your servers and get a programmer to fix it all.
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