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April 21, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
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Ordered in the first half of July, 2012.


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April 21, 2013, 04:24:44 AM
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Price?  And details (what is/was the GH of the Single?)
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April 21, 2013, 04:29:11 AM
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Price?  And details (what is/was the GH of the Single?)
GH is in the thread title.  

Price, was looking for minimum 100 BTC.  

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April 21, 2013, 04:31:14 AM
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EDIT: Actually, don't worry, bit rich for my blood at the moment.  Thanks anyway.
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April 21, 2013, 08:48:16 AM
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most singles are going for 3-3.5k on ebay right now.  is 100 btc really your min?

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April 21, 2013, 02:54:15 PM
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most singles are going for 3-3.5k on ebay right now.  is 100 btc really your min?
I see what you did there....

Plenty of them are, you are correct.  None of them are first round.  Below are some orders for reference.  Also now BFL is looking brighter in the past 48 hours. 

Try these:

$12000
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Single-SC-Bitcoin-mining-ASIC-60-GH-s-Order-1776-/330909988240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0bc5b590

$15000
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/230952567302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item35c5d88206

$12100
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-BitForce-Single-SC-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-PRE-ORDER-12218-/140939578692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d0a74d44

$10995
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BFL-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-10077-/290890537456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ba6d59f0

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April 21, 2013, 03:46:26 PM
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Your choices are skewed to pick out the high prices only.  Search for "All Completed" sorted by date descending.. and the prices you have are below.  I did not go through and pick out order numbers, but there are first batch orders in the list.

6000 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-GH-s-Butterfly-Labs-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Order-1467X-/121097962810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3200453a

3200 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Get-in-NOW-/261202329544?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd0df3fc8

3350 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-GH-s-Butterfly-Labs-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-SGL600G-/200917019536?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec7966b90

2850 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-FREE-SHIPPING-/221215459483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338178089b

12000 for 2 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Single-SC-Bitcoin-mining-ASIC-60-GH-s-Order-1776-/330909988240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0bc5b590

3500 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-GH-s-Butterfly-Labs-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-PRE-ORDER-/271191086390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f243f9536

So as you can see, a decent deal for a single is between 2850 and 3200.  The sale that happened for 12000 for 2 were order number 1776.  Your units and you can do what you want, but I think that's way overpriced for the going market rate.

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April 21, 2013, 05:51:23 PM
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Do you not read?  The ones you pointed out are NOT early orders.  Your first one and third is December.  Second and fourth not specified. 

Do not compare a July order with a December one. 

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April 21, 2013, 06:49:14 PM
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And if you read, this order number is 1776 and is from June, and thus earlier than yours.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Single-SC-Bitcoin-mining-ASIC-60-GH-s-Order-1776-/330909988240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0bc5b590


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April 21, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
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I showed you a string of sales.  You are showing one sale that is a valid comparison.  All of the others are too recent orders to compare with. 

Lets see where this September 2012 order goes to....

It is at $4750 now

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Single-SC-60-GH-s-ASIC-Miner-Order-8639-/181125423882?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2beaa30a



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April 22, 2013, 02:46:05 AM
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100 BTC is a great deal for a July order. For reference, 10 10gh/s ASICminer block erupters just sold for 75 BTC each, although I'm curious how many of them will actually pay... My 3 october orders mentioned above went for $10,995 each last month on eBay. Both buyers never paid though, and I suspect few are actually receiving any payments on their eBay sales.

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April 22, 2013, 02:50:38 AM
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Received payment for this order but it's only a month old : http://www.ebay.com/itm/121096385733?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
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April 22, 2013, 05:41:27 AM
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I'm the high bidder on this item. Auction closed at $6100, which is a fair price if it doesn't turn out to be another fake. The seller (1 feedback) is already asking for bitcoins outside of ebay (and with no mention of escrow), which would void buyer protection.  Furthermore, it looks like Paypal is freezing accounts left and right for BFL preorder sellers (not surprised, eBay requires presales to ship within 30 days of payment, period). This will be the second BFL preorder sale I've won on ebay that ends up being a blatant scam attempt. Looks like I'll be getting my money back... again.... <sigh>.

Furthermore, this auction is preorder 8xxx.  BFL states 400/day capacity which should put this one shipped before June if they don't push release again, and only about two weeks after yours is supposed to ship.

If they DO release slowly or push ship dates on the singles, neither this one nor a July order is going to have that kind of value IMO. Avalons are selling at these high prices due to stable delivery dates and (from what I've seen) have been done with escrow. 




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April 22, 2013, 08:33:36 PM
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100 BTC is a great deal for a July order. For reference, 10 10gh/s ASICminer block erupters just sold for 75 BTC each, although I'm curious how many of them will actually pay... My 3 october orders mentioned above went for $10,995 each last month on eBay. Both buyers never paid though, and I suspect few are actually receiving any payments on their eBay sales.

Based on the block erupter price, this unit would be worth 75BTC X 6.  It would take less power.  While I think those prices are crazy, it does give an idea of what an ASIC can be worth.

I would sell right now for 100 BTC, but it will probably not happen.  Now when BFL is shipping more units I can imagine a flood of people would say they would be interested and complain that it is much more then 100 BTC at that point.  That is the whole point, offloaded risk.   Once the risk goes away and you know you have a device that can churn out near 100 BTC a month, you are not going to sell it for 100 BTC!

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April 22, 2013, 08:54:07 PM
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Wow - I don't have a very early order but I have a preorder for 5 singles and I'd sell them for 100btc each in a heartbeat.

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April 22, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
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Wow - I don't have a very early order but I have a preorder for 5 singles and I'd sell them for 100btc each in a heartbeat.
When is your order date?  What model?

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April 22, 2013, 09:09:39 PM
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Wow - I don't have a very early order but I have a preorder for 5 singles and I'd sell them for 100btc each in a heartbeat.
When is your order date?  What model?

March 13th, the 60GH model.  After looking again, it is 4 singles not 5.

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April 22, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
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100 BTC is a great deal for a July order. For reference, 10 10gh/s ASICminer block erupters just sold for 75 BTC each, although I'm curious how many of them will actually pay... My 3 october orders mentioned above went for $10,995 each last month on eBay. Both buyers never paid though, and I suspect few are actually receiving any payments on their eBay sales.

Based on the block erupter price, this unit would be worth 75BTC X 6.  It would take less power.  While I think those prices are crazy, it does give an idea of what an ASIC can be worth.

I would sell right now for 100 BTC, but it will probably not happen.  Now when BFL is shipping more units I can imagine a flood of people would say they would be interested and complain that it is much more then 100 BTC at that point.  That is the whole point, offloaded risk.   Once the risk goes away and you know you have a device that can churn out near 100 BTC a month, you are not going to sell it for 100 BTC!

1) Erupter's were stupidly priced, they will NEVER make their money back on the price they paid.
2) Erupter's are different because they are in hand right now. No some vague future date.
3) Pointing at eBay auctions is ridiculous, the vast vast vast majority are fake bids.

100 BTC for this miner is insane. IF it ships (and it's a big if) then it's during a time when a shitload of TH is being dumped onto the network, so it's going to become worth dramatically less within a week as more and more ASICs come online.

Trying to compare any ASIC in today against what they will be worth for a preorder in the future (even an early one) isn't logical.
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April 23, 2013, 02:08:13 AM
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I have order #69xx of a single ordered Sept 1st. What you guys think mine is worth? Tongue

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April 23, 2013, 11:49:18 AM
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I actually "won" an auction from this guy (with a slightly different name) for order #1776 a month ago and I was asked to wire the money to a bank in Budapest.  As you can imagine, the sale did proceed  Roll Eyes

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