SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED

[Gogo ppp]

"Hello everyone, there used to be a Sports Book ranking that was COMPLETELY USER GENERATED, but now it's gone."

Are you referring to this thread - it seems to be active still - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.1560

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[FrueGreads]

"Hello everyone, there used to be a Sports Book ranking that was COMPLETELY USER GENERATED, but now it's gone."

Are you referring to this thread - it seems to be active still - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.1560

There used to be the one, but it's no longer completely user generated (or at least in the same objective way I try to do here).
You can read in the OP the following:

This year we're going to do things a "bit" different.  Independent user scores will be combined with an accumulation of opinions found within bitcointalk to generate a more accurate rank of the best bitcoin sports betting sites.

In the thread I'm managing, only user votes that are posted here are counted. Some users even express their opinion in this thread and don't vote, and I let them know that unless they objectively vote for the sports book (using the voting system expressed in the OP), their opinion will not be reflected in the ranks (simply because I can't express their opinion in a number and calculate an average score).

Not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing, and I'm not claiming that my thread is better than that one or not. Just saying this thread is different from that one, because the ranks showed in the OP are completely objective and user generated (they need to rank it with a number and they need to do it here). I can't search for votes on other threads, because the rank I have here has a meaning that is also explained in the OP, so users need to vote here.

I wished it had more votes, but I can't control that.
I appreciate that you took the time to vote, and please remember that you can change or add new votes any time you want. this is also important in order to try to keep the ranks accurate.

As for the errors you are getting I will check the sites. I just gather the votes, and I don't review them, so maybe they are not working anymore.
I removed directbet because I was aware that they closed, I will do the same with those and list it in the changelog.
Thank you for reporting.


All ranks have been updated until this post.

[RyanK]

Good, original idea...  haha I like how this thread is basically plagiarism...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0

Still active and will be much more active.  I got a little sick of keeping it updated regularly with directbet spamming scores left and right...

I've got more time to work on bitcoin activities including the thread that's been going for a few years.  I'll be testing out all the books myself as well.  Currently and over the past 4-5 years Nitrogen has been the only book I fully trust and has been high quality the whole time.  I keep hoping others can step their game up and compete but it hasn't happened yet.

Anyway, go BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC!!!

[FrueGreads]

Well I think the differences between the two threads are very clear, and I've actually tried to explain that again in the post right above the one you just made. I don't know if you've read it or not, I will try to be more clear.

- On this thread, I only use votes that are posted here, and I don't gather "accumulation of opinions found within bitcointalk"
- The ranks are not based on opinions as well. Users need to actually post a valid number that represents their opinion. If they just say it's good or bad their opinion will remain on the thread but it will have no impact on the ranks.

This is a much more objective approach, since the ranks will be completely user generated, and can be easily checked if the users want to do that.

Also, although I enjoy sports betting, and I do it in some of these bookies, I will not rank them myself because I want this thread to remain completely impartial. I just collect the votes, add them up, and calculate it's average. Not saying yours isn't impartial, but users can say that if they want, and they can't do the same here because I just collect the votes, and the votes can be checked.

I will not discuss if your approach is more accurate or not. I just prefer rankings to be made this way, and that it why I've created this thread.

I don't get paid to do this (I don't even use ref links), I do it because I believe this is important, and others users will decide if they want to use it or not. It's up to them.

I also recommend other ranking threads from time to time, and I've actually recommended yours some times, because I believe that if users have a lot of information, they will be able to make their decision more wisely.

[RyanK]

I like what you're doing.  It's what I was originally doing and I agree that it is important. 

Be careful of one thing though... books WILL eventually try to cheat the system... they just will.  Directbet did it on mine and it was very annoying.

[FrueGreads]

I like what you're doing.  It's what I was originally doing and I agree that it is important.  

Yes, I know. I remembered your "old version", and I just started this thread after you changed your rating model.
And again, I never said your model is bad, on the contrary. For me both are good, and if bettors use a combination of both (as well as much other rankings threads/sites out there), they will increase their chances on getting a good bookie. I guess it's also good for bookies, if they manage to get to first place on many different ranking systems.

Be careful of one thing though... books WILL eventually try to cheat the system... they just will.  Directbet did it on mine and it was very annoying.

Yes, I understand. That's one of the reasons I want to make an update on mine, so that users can see how votes fall in each category (by percentage). This way, even if a bookie manages to get users to spam votes, if some users voted the site as a scam, should be enough to "raise an alert". I keep falling short on time though, and I didn't made the update yet.

[SimplyRouge2]

NitrogenSports @ 5

[FrueGreads]

NitrogenSports @ 5

Hello SimplyRouge2, thanks for participating in this thread. Your vote will be recorded in our ranking table. Please remember that if your experience ever changes with nitrogenSports, you can make a new post and change your vote. This is important in order for the ranks to be as accurate as possible. Also, don't forget you can add new votes as you try new bookies and wish to rank them.


All ranks have been updated until this post

[SyGambler]

for me bitcoinrush is now the best bookie , I will give them 4.5 ( the missing 0.5 is an incentive to improve  )
they have the best odds in bitcoin , I always compare the odds and bitcoinrush is always in the lead
I just would like their bookie to be more user friendly , not for me but for other bettors since now I know what's the time frame in the site so it doesn't take me long to find the game I want , but newbies may find it hard

also they have one of the most generous VIP program , no one can say no for extra money 

[FrueGreads]

for me bitcoinrush is now the best bookie , I will give them 4.5 ( the missing 0.5 is an incentive to improve  )
they have the best odds in bitcoin , I always compare the odds and bitcoinrush is always in the lead
I just would like their bookie to be more user friendly , not for me but for other bettors since now I know what's the time frame in the site so it doesn't take me long to find the game I want , but newbies may find it hard

also they have one of the most generous VIP program , no one can say no for extra money 

Thanks a lot for your vote and small review. It's always great when users explain the reasons for their votes, since it provides a much better feedback for other users. Please remember that you can update your vote at any time, if your experience with them changes. Maybe they will run that extra mile, and you decide they deserve the extra points, or the opposite if their service declines. Also, you can always add new votes to other bookies, as you get familiar with them.


All ranks have been updated until this post.

[giiraf]

[5] Nitrogen Sports- Most reliable bitcoin book
[1] Cloudbet - booted my country with no warning
[1] sportbet.io - also banned my country

[FrueGreads]

[5] Nitrogen Sports- Most reliable bitcoin book
[1] Cloudbet - booted my country with no warning
[1] sportbet.io - also banned my country

Hello giiraf, thank you very much for your votes. Please remember that you can change your current votes anytime you want. This is very important so that our ranks remain accurate. You can also add new votes, as you try out new bookies. Finally please remember that it doesn't matter if a bookie is not on our ranks yet. You just need to vote for it and I will add it, and as soon as it gets at least 10 votes it will be moved to our main table.

Feel free to add a small review if you want, or an explanation behind your votes. It's not mandatory, but greatly appreciated.


All votes have been updated until this post.

[agustina2]

Nitrogensports [5]

Why? Here are some:

- fast withdrawal (of course will depend on the network)
- excellent customer support
- lots of betting options especially on my preferred sports
- offered odds still closed on average odds by other sportsbooks,

The only downside (for me and not for Nitrogen), sometimes betting options are being closed even it's still 10 or 12 hours before the match. At most of the cases it was being opened few hours before the match but unfortunately I can't catch it up.

These will be my lone vote as of now as I used Nitrogen for almost couple of years now.

[Moonmanmun]

Nitrogen = 4.5
SportsBet = 4
BetKing = 3.5
Betcoin = 1

[casinobitco]

for me bitcoinrush is now the best bookie , I will give them 4.5 ( the missing 0.5 is an incentive to improve   )
they have the best odds in bitcoin , I always compare the odds and bitcoinrush is always in the lead
I just would like their bookie to be more user friendly , not for me but for other bettors since now I know what's the time frame in the site so it doesn't take me long to find the game I want , but newbies may find it hard

also they have one of the most generous VIP program , no one can say no for extra money  

Thanks a lot for your vote and small review. It's always great when users explain the reasons for their votes, since it provides a much better feedback for other users. Please remember that you can update your vote at any time, if your experience with them changes. Maybe they will run that extra mile, and you decide they deserve the extra points, or the opposite if their service declines. Also, you can always add new votes to other bookies, as you get familiar with them.


All ranks have been updated until this post.

Thanks for the review SyGambler, you've given me some level of confidence that accounts on Bitcointalk actually care about the important things like good odds and kickback programs, which we dominate in.

I presume we still don't have 10 'reviews' from real accounts to be listed here though? Considering the amount of volume we do daily (public records), iI guess we can deduce they are just not users on bitcointalk?

[SyGambler]

for me bitcoinrush is now the best bookie , I will give them 4.5 ( the missing 0.5 is an incentive to improve   )
they have the best odds in bitcoin , I always compare the odds and bitcoinrush is always in the lead
I just would like their bookie to be more user friendly , not for me but for other bettors since now I know what's the time frame in the site so it doesn't take me long to find the game I want , but newbies may find it hard

also they have one of the most generous VIP program , no one can say no for extra money  

Thanks a lot for your vote and small review. It's always great when users explain the reasons for their votes, since it provides a much better feedback for other users. Please remember that you can update your vote at any time, if your experience with them changes. Maybe they will run that extra mile, and you decide they deserve the extra points, or the opposite if their service declines. Also, you can always add new votes to other bookies, as you get familiar with them.


All ranks have been updated until this post.

Thanks for the review SyGambler, you've given me some level of confidence that accounts on Bitcointalk actually care about the important things like good odds and kickback programs, which we dominate in.

I presume we still don't have 10 'reviews' from real accounts to be listed here though? Considering the amount of volume we do daily (public records), iI guess we can deduce they are just not users on bitcointalk?

you are very welcome , I just did an honest review cause I find no reason at all to bet in other sites when you are offering both higher odds and bet back
I'm sure many gamblers will shift to bitcoinrush in the future , and glad you added the search to soccer games hope you add it too for tennis since there are a lot of tennis matches too
also hope you add more betting options like covering all the possible handicaps in the future too

keep it up 

[FrueGreads]

@agustina2
Thank you very much for you votes, and specially for the review. As usual reviews are not mandatory, but extremely important since they provide important information for other users.

@Moonmanmun
Thank you very much for your voting.

Don't forget that you can both change your votes or add new ones, as your experience with bookies changes. To do so, just make another post with the new information, so that I can update the tables.

Thanks for the review SyGambler, you've given me some level of confidence that accounts on Bitcointalk actually care about the important things like good odds and kickback programs, which we dominate in.

I presume we still don't have 10 'reviews' from real accounts to be listed here though? Considering the amount of volume we do daily (public records), iI guess we can deduce they are just not users on bitcointalk?

Thanks for stepping by. Unfortunately bitcoinrush only has 2 votes right now and is listed on the our provisional table that can be seen in the second post of this thread. I have no idea if bitcoinrush users are members of bitcointalk or not. Maybe they are, and they just didn't vote yet. I do my best to keep the thread visible, and I bump the thread once a day, but there is nothing more I can do.

I do think that bookies should tell their users that their site is open for votes in certain places. This way they could share their support, that is important for the bookie itself, but it would also help those ranking threads/sites that would end up getting more votes, making their stats more accurate, which would also result in a better service.

[agustina2]

@agustina2
Thank you very much for you votes, and specially for the review. As usual reviews are not mandatory, but extremely important since they provide important information for other users.

Actually Im about to add OneHash but I decided not for now. If OneHash will able to gather more users in their site, I see it will top the list as aside from the provided odds is good, their betting options are sometimes way many than Nitrogen.

Plus the fact that it's like Directbet's no account terms, it will boost more their popularity. Really needs a mass advertisements though.

[FrueGreads]

@agustina2
Thank you very much for you votes, and specially for the review. As usual reviews are not mandatory, but extremely important since they provide important information for other users.

Actually Im about to add OneHash but I decided not for now. If OneHash will able to gather more users in their site, I see it will top the list as aside from the provided odds is good, their betting options are sometimes way many than Nitrogen.

Plus the fact that it's like Directbet's no account terms, it will boost more their popularity. Really needs a mass advertisements though.

Ok take your time, you can add a vote, and hopefully another review, whenever you like. Just post it in this thread, and I will add it.

@Moonmanmun
I was editing the ranks today, as I said I would, but I wasn't able to find BetKing sportsbet options. They say in their website that they are planning on launching a sports book platform, but I couldn't find the link. Is it already working? Because this thread is just for bookies, and not for casinos.

I did add them because I'm not familiar with the site, so I'm trusting you have information that I don't, but if this is incorrect please let me know so I can remove them form the list.


All ranks have been updated until this post.

[Hhampuz]

Considering I've really only used nitrogen to it's full potential and only tried the others once or twice I'll only rate the aforementioned nitrogensports.

[4]Nitrogen - Stable, good odds, great number of games supported. I would give them a "5" but they can sometimes be very slow with grades (especially eSports), and withdraws seem to be stuck from time to time (up to 24h).

Great initiative with this thread, keep up the good work!