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April 26, 2018, 11:04:41 PM
 #341

PowerBet.io and 1xbit, 1xbet, with a score of 0. Even if you're just sports betting or value betting, blocking accounts and stealing your money, don't waste your time trying them out.

exactly my point , that's why I'm totally against adding it cause some reviews may be way before the scam
it just doesn't make sense to give a site even 1 when most likely you won't get paid  , there is a huge risk with using these bookies

I find many arbitrage opportunities that involve 1xbit , but it doesn't worth it at all
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April 27, 2018, 01:56:00 AM
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PowerBet.io and 1xbit,
Honestly, if they do not steal money and do not block accounts, then one month they will close because of value betting and ....................... .. some strategies. Grin Roll Eyes
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April 27, 2018, 02:10:53 AM
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For all BTC sports betting ratings, the most important point is stealing money
I have no objection to limiting the account number, but if a sports betting often steals money, it should be scored as 0.
1xbit and 1xbet are the most shameless and worst of the sports gambling I've seen in a few years. They don't need any reason, they don't reply to any information, and Google tries to search for them.
If someone thinks 1xbit and 1xbet are very good in your country, please let me know.
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April 27, 2018, 02:30:44 PM
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@Sondrax thanks for adding new votes, and as usual, thanks for adding them with a review.

@vxtu2222, @SyGambler, I understand your position and I decided to create a new voting option for our ranks. You can now vote with [ 0 ], that should act as a Scam Alert. This is a very important vote, and those that wish to cast this vote need to post a link to a scam accusation in the forum, so that other users can keep a close eye on how everything develops there.

So vxtu2222, I am willing to register your votes with [ 0 ] for those bookies, as soon as you provide the requested links.
I will also add those link to the OP, every time we get vote like that. That should be a good warning for new users.



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vxtu2222 votes are pending, until he posts a link so I can add it to the OP.

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May 17, 2018, 06:36:57 PM
Last edit: May 18, 2018, 06:16:30 AM by Trofo
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 #345

Nitrogen Sports Tennis Forfeit Policy

Just lost a bet due to their Tennis rules which are not very logical. Therefore, I wanted to make other users aware of it. You can read it by yourself on nitrogen site under Tennis rules. I have quoted the illogical part.
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Moneyline Wagers
In a head to head matchup, one full set must be completed for Money Line wagers to stand. If less than one set is completed, all Money Line wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.

Set Wagers
When betting "Sets", if a match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned. If a set is completed that encompasses a bet (for example a first set bet where the first set is completed) then the bet will stand.

Spread and Total Wagers
When betting Spreads and Totals, if a tennis match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.

Delpotro forfeited the match vs. Goffin today after losing first set and leading 5:4 in the second. I have bet on Delpotro which means I have lost a bet.

If I had played for instance that Goffin wins one set the bet would be void even though he already won one set. If I played Delpo to win 2:0 in sets. Bet would be void even though he lost first set and I couldn't win the bet after that. This is the part that bothers me most.

If I had played any spread or correct sets score the bet would be void.

I prefer bookies where Moneyline wagers are also void in case of forfeits. I feel much more secure betting on tennis if I know forfeits wont harm me. On the other hand this could be exploited in the first rounds of Grand Slams when there are often a lot of unprepered players showing up to collect money.

Please deduct 0.2 from my last Nitrogen score.

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May 18, 2018, 10:39:02 AM
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Hello Trofo, thanks for sharing. Indeed Tennis Forfeit Policies are very important, and something every user must carefully Analise before betting, since they change from bookie to bookie. I also learn that the hard way when I was trading tennis in fiat bookies exchanges.

I just don't get this part:

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If I had played for instance that Goffin wins one set the bet would be void even though he already won one set. If I played Delpo to win 2:0 in sets. Bet would be void even though he lost first set and I couldn't win the bet after that. This is the part that bothers me most.

Why do you say that your bet would be void?

From your quote:

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Set Wagers
When betting "Sets", if a match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned. If a set is completed that encompasses a bet (for example a first set bet where the first set is completed) then the bet will stand.

Shouldn't this mean that your bet should stand? He did one a set what was finished, so I think it should stand.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, it should be important for other users that still don't know how important checking these things is.
I've also changed your vote as requested. I had a 4.3 registered, and I've changed it to 4.1.



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May 18, 2018, 03:02:50 PM
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Hello Trofo, thanks for sharing. Indeed Tennis Forfeit Policies are very important, and something every user must carefully Analise before betting, since they change from bookie to bookie. I also learn that the hard way when I was trading tennis in fiat bookies exchanges.

I just don't get this part:

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If I had played for instance that Goffin wins one set the bet would be void even though he already won one set. If I played Delpo to win 2:0 in sets. Bet would be void even though he lost first set and I couldn't win the bet after that. This is the part that bothers me most.

Why do you say that your bet would be void?

From your quote:

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Set Wagers
When betting "Sets", if a match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned. If a set is completed that encompasses a bet (for example a first set bet where the first set is completed) then the bet will stand.

Shouldn't this mean that your bet should stand? He did one a set what was finished, so I think it should stand.


I believe that what I have written is true. I wouldn't bet my house on it but I think I already had similar situation where I should have lost a bet and it was void. I think that misunderstanding comes from the fact how I explained the bet. Nitrogen actually only offers set handicaps. Meaning Goffin to win one set was actually Goffin +1.5 set handicap and that bet would be void since match is not completed. That is why it is bothering me, because it is very counter initiative.

Set Wagers from the rules (bold part) would only come into play if you played let's say Goffin wins first set or first set over 9.5 gems. But nitrogen doesn't have such options and that makes it double confusing.

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May 18, 2018, 07:58:39 PM
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Nitrogen Sports Tennis Forfeit Policy

Just lost a bet due to their Tennis rules which are not very logical. Therefore, I wanted to make other users aware of it. You can read it by yourself on nitrogen site under Tennis rules. I have quoted the illogical part.
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Moneyline Wagers
In a head to head matchup, one full set must be completed for Money Line wagers to stand. If less than one set is completed, all Money Line wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.

Set Wagers
When betting "Sets", if a match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned. If a set is completed that encompasses a bet (for example a first set bet where the first set is completed) then the bet will stand.

Spread and Total Wagers
When betting Spreads and Totals, if a tennis match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.

Delpotro forfeited the match vs. Goffin today after losing first set and leading 5:4 in the second. I have bet on Delpotro which means I have lost a bet.

If I had played for instance that Goffin wins one set the bet would be void even though he already won one set. If I played Delpo to win 2:0 in sets. Bet would be void even though he lost first set and I couldn't win the bet after that. This is the part that bothers me most.

If I had played any spread or correct sets score the bet would be void.

I prefer bookies where Moneyline wagers are also void in case of forfeits. I feel much more secure betting on tennis if I know forfeits wont harm me. On the other hand this could be exploited in the first rounds of Grand Slams when there are often a lot of unprepered players showing up to collect money.

Please deduct 0.2 from my last Nitrogen score.

nitrogen rules for tennis is exactly the same as pinnacle ( and bitcoinrush since they use pinnacle as odds provider )
I had a similar situation in the past where I bet over 22.5 games as I remember , but one of the players retired at the last set which leaded to void my bet
can't do much about this rule since some times it saves us from loss as well , so we have to live with it  Smiley
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Thanks for the great job you doing @FrueGreads

Getting back to the topic i will be ranking my sports books based on the bonus system, time it takes to grade games, response to scam accusations and how good support responds to all arising problems(tickets) on their platforms.

And just a fact before I dive into my rankings most bookies on the ranking system all have some sort of scam accusation on some forum somewhere, dont believe me google search your favorite bookie.

So far i have used NitrogenSports.eu, Sportsbet.io, Cloudbet   ,betballer, 1xbit      

NitrogenSports.eu [4]
Been one of the few oldest crypto sportsbooks to date, I think they deserve to hold top spot because of ease of account registration, some good competitions that give us a shot at winning some free coins and in cases of scam accusations I have seen that they have staff on standby to look into such matters. The only thing I would like to see from NS addition of various sports games which includes more inplay game types.

Cloudbet[3]
also among the oldest sports book in the crypto business and what i like about them is their simple to use  interface , good variety of inplay and post matches, would like to see these guys support other coins besides bitcoin and seems their grading and payout times have improved but besides having a welcome bonus its a rip off, its tied with too many conditions!

1xbit[3]
This company seems to be expanding at a fast pace, been seeing their ads in soccer matches and the alike which is good for the crypto adoption process but what I don't understand is why they are not whitelisting their name...might be a bitter pill to swallow but they need this to be among the top sports books and besides the have a quick grading system, support is usually on standby, market price is equally good and not forgetting their payouts(withdraws) are equally processed within a short time .

Sportsbet.io [3]
The pool of games does not impress me much and the last time I checked there T&Cs they have KYC which is over kill considering we were  made to believe cryptocurrencies are all about anonymity and knowing funds could be locked anytime makes me to be cautious when using their services. Besides all this still a good sportsbook.

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May 24, 2018, 02:26:06 PM
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Thanks for the great job you doing @FrueGreads

Getting back to the topic i will be ranking my sports books based on the bonus system, time it takes to grade games, response to scam accusations and how good support responds to all arising problems(tickets) on their platforms.

And just a fact before I dive into my rankings most bookies on the ranking system all have some sort of scam accusation on some forum somewhere, dont believe me google search your favorite bookie.

So far i have used NitrogenSports.eu, Sportsbet.io, Cloudbet   ,betballer, 1xbit      

NitrogenSports.eu [4]
Been one of the few oldest crypto sportsbooks to date, I think they deserve to hold top spot because of ease of account registration, some good competitions that give us a shot at winning some free coins and in cases of scam accusations I have seen that they have staff on standby to look into such matters. The only thing I would like to see from NS addition of various sports games which includes more inplay game types.

Cloudbet[3]
also among the oldest sports book in the crypto business and what i like about them is their simple to use  interface , good variety of inplay and post matches, would like to see these guys support other coins besides bitcoin and seems their grading and payout times have improved but besides having a welcome bonus its a rip off, its tied with too many conditions!

1xbit[3]
This company seems to be expanding at a fast pace, been seeing their ads in soccer matches and the alike which is good for the crypto adoption process but what I don't understand is why they are not whitelisting their name...might be a bitter pill to swallow but they need this to be among the top sports books and besides the have a quick grading system, support is usually on standby, market price is equally good and not forgetting their payouts(withdraws) are equally processed within a short time .

Sportsbet.io [3]
The pool of games does not impress me much and the last time I checked there T&Cs they have KYC which is over kill considering we were  made to believe cryptocurrencies are all about anonymity and knowing funds could be locked anytime makes me to be cautious when using their services. Besides all this still a good sportsbook.

Betballer[0]
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Wow thank you very much. I looking for more information about cloudbet and I found in this thread (forum bitcointalk). But wait, nitrogensports.eu has more points value rather than cloudbet? though this is the one of oldest crypto sportsbooks, I think it's not famous in my environtment. I don't know but I want to try this one, I hope it will not disappointed.

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May 24, 2018, 06:11:47 PM
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@crypto1010
Thanks a lot for the support. I still want to do some improvements (like the % of votes a bookie has for each rank interval), but I haven't been able to find the time to do it, so until that happens I will keep gathering votes and updating the tables. It's still good to know that users find this thread useful, so thanks a lot.

Also thanks for the reasons behind the votes. As usual, it's not mandatory, but very appreciated and it makes all the difference for those who look into this thread. A proof of that is the post of astrong, right after yours.

Don't forget you can add new votes or update the current ones anytime you like, so that your opinion remains up to date.

Important: I can't register your vote for Betballer @0, unless you provide a link for a scam accusation, so that users can keep an eye on that thread for updates.

@astrong
Thanks for using this thread. Feel free to look to the rest of the pages, because a lot of users leave reviews, like crypto1010, so it might help you even further.

Also, please "pay it forward", and leave a vote and if possible a small review of the bookies you are familiar with. It will probably help new users, like it helped you.



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May 24, 2018, 06:37:28 PM
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[5] Nitrogensports (Updated from a [4.7] rating previously).


Not a lot to say about this. They seem to have taken a lot of steps lately towards really solidifying their position as one of the best bookies out there. Withdraws only take 10-15 minutes to get processed now (for me at least) and grading have become lightning fast. There is not a single part of their website that I could say is a weakness right now which means I have to give them the perfect score. Will start looking into other bookies in the coming weeks as well but it's hard to leave nitro when everything is going so good.

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May 25, 2018, 03:11:28 PM
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Hello Hhampuz, thanks a lot for updating your nitrogensports rank. Is good to see careful consideration and regular updates on bookies, and in your case, an update always comes with the reason behind it which is great.

As usual, I will stay impartial here, but I need to say that is also very good to see that you finally decided to give 5 points to a bookie. When a user gives the perfect score, and specially in your case, since those 5 points came after a lot of consideration, it definitely means that you are happy with the bookie, and that is good to know.

Waiting for updates, and new ranks, if you decide to give a shot to some other bookies.
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May 27, 2018, 06:44:58 AM
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want to give Betking 4.00
after they reduced their margin the odds now are good and competitive with even the popular fiat sites , but it seems the margin isn't reduced for all the sports like NBA for example
also they offer horse racing sometimes but not always , once they reduce the margin for all the sports and add horse racing I will change the rating for 5 cause the site will be perfect !!
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May 27, 2018, 06:51:22 AM
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(3.5) Nitrogensport.eu

It is a nice website, however i got (access denied) page when i long time no log in. It shows:

The owner of this website (nitrogensports.eu) has banned the country or region your IP address is in  from accessing this website.

Cloudflare R

I think that is the first time i see bitcoin gambling website got like this. And i no see country list  they banned also.
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May 27, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
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Hello SyGambler, thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (bitcoinrush 4.5, Powerbet 1, 3.5 for onehash, and now Betking with 4). Hope BetKing upgrades their service eventually, since it's always great to see users rating their bookies with high grades.

Hello terrate, thanks for adding your first vote. It's sad to see you are having problems with them. Have you tried to contact their customer support? It's strange for you to be getting those problems, since like you said your country is not on the ban list apparently. Are you sure you are not using any proxy or any service that might be hiding your country?

From most of the feedback I've been collecting in this thread, and from my personal experience as well, their support is quite decent, so maybe you will be able to solve this. Please let us know how this case develops.

In the meanwhile, and if you test new bookies, feel free to leave a rank and if possible a small review for them.



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May 29, 2018, 06:10:10 AM
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Hello SyGambler, thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (bitcoinrush 4.5, Powerbet 1, 3.5 for onehash, and now Betking with 4). Hope BetKing upgrades their service eventually, since it's always great to see users rating their bookies with high grades.



now Betking reduce margin for American sports as well , so now I can update my vote to 4.5
if they added horse racing , betking will be officially the best site for bitcoin sportsbettors but as I understood from Dean horse racing may not be added  Sad
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Hello SyGambler, thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (bitcoinrush 4.5, Powerbet 1, 3.5 for onehash, and now Betking with 4). Hope BetKing upgrades their service eventually, since it's always great to see users rating their bookies with high grades.



now Betking reduce margin for American sports as well , so now I can update my vote to 4.5
if they added horse racing , betking will be officially the best site for bitcoin sportsbettors but as I understood from Dean horse racing may not be added  Sad

Always good to see users updating their vote to higher one.
It's to bad horse racing is not in their agenda yet. Who knows, maybe they will be able to compensate in another way.

Thanks for keeping your votes updated.



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In a head to head matchup, one full set must be completed for Money Line wagers to stand. If less than one set is completed, all Money Line wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.
Please deduct 0.2 from my last Nitrogen score.
This makes a good sense. I used bet with bet365 (I am not sure if I had this kind of cases, I tell you what... I was a crazy one. I even used to bet on point market).
Anyway in the case of forfeiting win-lose bet should be cancelled. An injury in a in play tennis match does not really help no one (bookie or the better). Before formfitting if we get a result for any other market (like set, point etc) then that should do because you already won the market.

By the way I like it when you said, "Please deduct 0.2 from my last Nitrogen score.". Good luck on your betting career  Smiley

Be happy be at peace. Looking forward to BTC at $1M
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June 04, 2018, 10:15:02 AM
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would like to vote 4.5 for mbet.io
they are still new but they are the only bitcoin site that offers and focus on horse racing which is really amazing since we have no options to bet on horses in bitcoin sites
the odds for sports isn't that competitive but for horse racing they are really good , so hope to see people who enjoy horse racing betting there with bitcoin
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