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March 11, 2017, 02:30:35 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
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March 11, 2017, 03:29:19 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
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Are you asking for a loan or are you asking for someone to show you how to lend on there?
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March 11, 2017, 03:42:06 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

i think if you want to loan on poloniex, you should doing margin trading on poloniex so you can loan the coins but my suggestion is if you don't have a good skills in trading, better you stay away from doing margin trading because you can gets loss all of your balance and your account can be closed for this.

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March 11, 2017, 03:51:50 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
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Are you asking for a loan or are you asking for someone to show you how to lend on there?
I think it is clear that he is asking about how to loan to other people money to obtain profits out of them, unfortunately I don't use poloniex, so cannot help the opener there.
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March 11, 2017, 07:29:48 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

Are you asking for a loan or are you asking for someone to show you how to lend on there?
I think it is clear that he is asking about how to loan to other people money to obtain profits out of them, unfortunately I don't use poloniex, so cannot help the opener there.
Sorry but i disagree, i think he is asking how to get a loan on poloniex (He as the borrower, not a lender) because he also saying "Use it for trading on poloniex too". I use poloniex but i never use their lending service either.

@SmokerFace: You can try ask Poloniex moderators on Troll box too, they will help you out. Goodluck Wink

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March 11, 2017, 07:37:00 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

Are you asking for a loan or are you asking for someone to show you how to lend on there?
I think it is clear that he is asking about how to loan to other people money to obtain profits out of them, unfortunately I don't use poloniex, so cannot help the opener there.
Sorry but i disagree, i think he is asking how to get a loan on poloniex (He as the borrower, not a lender) because he also saying "Use it for trading on poloniex too". I use poloniex but i never use their lending service either.
Yes, i want to borrow bitcoins from poloniex to use it for trading altcoins but i didn't know how it works and how to borrow Huh
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March 11, 2017, 09:59:21 AM
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This is not a traditional borrowing, you will not get money in your balance, just the opportunity to open sell/buy order with leverage. And ofcourse must have own funds to.

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March 11, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
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This is not a traditional borrowing, you will not get money in your balance, just the opportunity to open sell/buy order with leverage. And ofcourse must have own funds to.

As Zazarb said, you need to have some funds from your own already.
Then, if you move the amount that you deposit to the "Margin" section/wallet on Polo, you will see how much more you can trade.
Don't forget that this is a leverage and in fact, you take a loan from Polo just for Margin trade and not simple (Exchange) trade.

So if you put 1BTC on Margin, you can trade 5BTC for example...Idk the exact % that you can get as leverage though... Roll Eyes
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March 11, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
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Poloniex is a good company with a good systems.

Once you put coins up for lending, the transactions are handled internally and automatically. The lender offers coins at his specified interest rate and the loans are generated automatically when someone places an order in margin trading.

Lenders on Polo commit their coins for a minimum of two days. If someone holds a margin position for longer than the loan term, the lender gets his coins returned (with interest), and the system uses someone else's funds to keep the margin position open.

If a margin positions falls below the 20% maintenance level (the bet has gone sour, and the margin trader's position has lost a lot of value), the trade gets force-liquidated and the loaned funds get returned (with interest).
The loans are done internally and seamlessly. Don't sweat it -- loan funds are safe and borrowers can't run off with your money.




Edit: Sorry i misunderstood the question.

From https://poloniex.com/support/aboutMarginTrading/
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Margin trading is essentially trading with borrowed funds instead of your own. When you place a margin order, all of the money you are using is borrowed from other users offering their funds as peer-to-peer loans.

This means, you don't need to actively ask for a loan, but just need to enter the % you are willing to pay for the loan. Check this screenshot: https://www.coinstaker.com/poloniex-how-to-get-a-loan/
To see what % is normal and people are desiring, go to "LENDING" section!
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March 11, 2017, 05:31:14 PM
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Everything you said is correct, but OP not ask how  to lend, he want borrow.

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March 12, 2017, 06:13:16 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

Well basically you are loaning to people that are margin trading with the money you are loaning them. I'm pretty sure that the collateral is the altcoin that they are holding, and that will be liquidated if the collateral falls below the loan amount.

The problem is that there is literally no loan demands and if you want to be an active lender on polo you probably need a lending bot which can cost a few dollars.

You also have to deal with the volatility of bitcoin and other altcoins you are lending out, which can land in the negative zone even if your net profits in bitcoin or altcoin terms are positive.

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Well basically you are loaning to people that are margin trading with the money you are loaning them. I'm pretty sure that the collateral is the altcoin that they are holding, and that will be liquidated if the collateral falls below the loan amount.

The problem is that there is literally no loan demands and if you want to be an active lender on polo you probably need a lending bot which can cost a few dollars.

You also have to deal with the volatility of bitcoin and other altcoins you are lending out, which can land in the negative zone even if your net profits in bitcoin or altcoin terms are positive.

On top of that, the lending bot would have to be good enough not to error out and cause a loss. Havent use one personally but we all can say that bots arent perfect and anything can happen.
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Well basically you are loaning to people that are margin trading with the money you are loaning them. I'm pretty sure that the collateral is the altcoin that they are holding, and that will be liquidated if the collateral falls below the loan amount.

The problem is that there is literally no loan demands and if you want to be an active lender on polo you probably need a lending bot which can cost a few dollars.

You also have to deal with the volatility of bitcoin and other altcoins you are lending out, which can land in the negative zone even if your net profits in bitcoin or altcoin terms are positive.

On top of that, the lending bot would have to be good enough not to error out and cause a loss. Havent use one personally but we all can say that bots arent perfect and anything can happen.

There is no way to end on loss if you lend through Polo.
Collateral is the whole account/amount of the margin trader, not only his alt coins. The whole...

If the margin trader gets in the "red/dead zone", everything is liquided automatically.
Lenders and Polo get paid almost in a sec.

Btw, Bitfinex have also a Lending option, as i recall... Roll Eyes
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How about bitfinex
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March 15, 2017, 02:10:54 PM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

Some correct info and a lot of incorrect info provided above.

By 'loaning', i am taking that you are asking how to obtain a loan so that you can use that to trade.

Poloniex has an Exchange tab and a Margin tab.
1. You 1st have to deposit your own coin to Poloniex. It can be btc or any other altcoin that's traded on the site. You can not get a 'loan' without 1st having your own coin on there as collateral.
2. Only 11 coins traded on poloniex can be margin traded (ETH, DASH, XMR etc). You need to convert whatever coin you deposited to either btc or any of the 11 margin coins via the Exchange tab.
3. You then transfer your coin from the Exchange tab to the Margin tab.
4. You will have 2.5x of what you've put up as collateral available to now margin trade with. You do not have to trade with all of what is available, effectively meaning your margin is less than 2.5x. But 2.5x is max.
5. You can NOT withdraw from your margin account. Ie. You can't just deposit 1btc, move that to your margin account, have 2.5btc available to trade and then withdraw that 2.5btc in an attempt to not repay your loan.
6. Whatever you have is now available to margin trade with - only on the 11 margin altcoins though. If you buy (go long) with your full 2.5x margin and the coin goes up 10%, your underlying collateral balance is now worth 25% more. Vice versa if it drops etc.
7. With margin coins, you can go short, that is selling 1st with the hope the price drops and then buying after the price drops to close the trade (closing the short).
8. Your starting margin is always 40% (the inverse of 2.5x). This is the maintenance margin.
9. If you go long and the price increases your % goes up and you can buy more until the % drops to 40%. Same if you go short and the price falls. This is you making PROFIT.
10. If your trade starts going bad (you go long but the price drops or you go short but the price rises) your maintenance % will drop below 40%. If it falls below 30% you will start get warnings from the system that your margin is getting low and your close yo liquidation. This is the red danger zone.
11. To get out of the danger zone you need to either start closing your position (buying or selling depending on what position you took) or add more collateral  (deposit more of your own coin to your margin account. Both of these actions will increase your %.
12. If your % drops below 20%, the system will automatically start closing your position  (liquidating). This usually happens only in small chunks - whatever is needed to get your % to back at or above 20%.
13. If things don't improve or if you don't take action, eventually the system will sell off all or most of your margin trading account, leaving you with zero or very little of your collateral remaining. The sell off is to pay back your borrowings. Their algorithm is very good and I've not heard of lenders losing out with they offer up their coins gor others to borrow.
14. Lastly, there is NO WAY to scam the system or the people lending funds.

Hope this helps.
Good luck Smiley

TL:DR To borrow funds/obtain a loan on Poloniex you 1st have to put up your own coin as collateral. You cannot withdraw from the site what you've borrowed.


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March 16, 2017, 02:07:09 AM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

Some correct info and a lot of incorrect info provided above.

By 'loaning', i am taking that you are asking how to obtain a loan so that you can use that to trade.

Poloniex has an Exchange tab and a Margin tab.
1. You 1st have to deposit your own coin to Poloniex. It can be btc or any other altcoin that's traded on the site. You can not get a 'loan' without 1st having your own coin on there as collateral.
2. Only 11 coins traded on poloniex can be margin traded (ETH, DASH, XMR etc). You need to convert whatever coin you deposited to either btc or any of the 11 margin coins via the Exchange tab.
3. You then transfer your coin from the Exchange tab to the Margin tab.
4. You will have 2.5x of what you've put up as collateral available to now margin trade with. You do not have to trade with all of what is available, effectively meaning your margin is less than 2.5x. But 2.5x is max.
5. You can NOT withdraw from your margin account. Ie. You can't just deposit 1btc, move that to your margin account, have 2.5btc available to trade and then withdraw that 2.5btc in an attempt to not repay your loan.
6. Whatever you have is now available to margin trade with - only on the 11 margin altcoins though. If you buy (go long) with your full 2.5x margin and the coin goes up 10%, your underlying collateral balance is now worth 25% more. Vice versa if it drops etc.
7. With margin coins, you can go short, that is selling 1st with the hope the price drops and then buying after the price drops to close the trade (closing the short).
8. Your starting margin is always 40% (the inverse of 2.5x). This is the maintenance margin.
9. If you go long and the price increases your % goes up and you can buy more until the % drops to 40%. Same if you go short and the price falls. This is you making PROFIT.
10. If your trade starts going bad (you go long but the price drops or you go short but the price rises) your maintenance % will drop below 40%. If it falls below 30% you will start get warnings from the system that your margin is getting low and your close yo liquidation. This is the red danger zone.
11. To get out of the danger zone you need to either start closing your position (buying or selling depending on what position you took) or add more collateral  (deposit more of your own coin to your margin account. Both of these actions will increase your %.
12. If your % drops below 20%, the system will automatically start closing your position  (liquidating). This usually happens only in small chunks - whatever is needed to get your % to back at or above 20%.
13. If things don't improve or if you don't take action, eventually the system will sell off all or most of your margin trading account, leaving you with zero or very little of your collateral remaining. The sell off is to pay back your borrowings. Their algorithm is very good and I've not heard of lenders losing out with they offer up their coins gor others to borrow.
14. Lastly, there is NO WAY to scam the system or the people lending funds.

Hope this helps.
Good luck Smiley

TL:DR To borrow funds/obtain a loan on Poloniex you 1st have to put up your own coin as collateral. You cannot withdraw from the site what you've borrowed.



Thanks Dude  Grin now i understand how poloniex margin trading works but can i ask if Example:
i buy eth coins in margin trading and i put the interest to 0.012% how the interest works? or how many days the 0.012% will decreased to my balance? every 2days or not?
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Well basically you are loaning to people that are margin trading with the money you are loaning them. I'm pretty sure that the collateral is the altcoin that they are holding, and that will be liquidated if the collateral falls below the loan amount.

The problem is that there is literally no loan demands and if you want to be an active lender on polo you probably need a lending bot which can cost a few dollars.

You also have to deal with the volatility of bitcoin and other altcoins you are lending out, which can land in the negative zone even if your net profits in bitcoin or altcoin terms are positive.

On top of that, the lending bot would have to be good enough not to error out and cause a loss. Havent use one personally but we all can say that bots arent perfect and anything can happen.

There is no way to end on loss if you lend through Polo.
Collateral is the whole account/amount of the margin trader, not only his alt coins. The whole...

If the margin trader gets in the "red/dead zone", everything is liquided automatically.
Lenders and Polo get paid almost in a sec.

Btw, Bitfinex have also a Lending option, as i recall... Roll Eyes

Poloniex doesn't pay you really well for lending your coins, it's considered as a safe loan as poloniex will always make sure you receive your funds, but the interest rate is very low.
Worth trying, but I wouldn't recommend using

When you borrow your funds they go to someone who wants to make a marigin trading.

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March 17, 2017, 02:19:35 PM
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There's anyone who knows how to loan on poloniex?
I want to loan on poloniex exchange site and use it for trading in poloniex exchange too, Can anyone help me how loan on poloniex works and how to loan?
Thanks Smiley

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Thanks Dude  Grin now i understand how poloniex margin trading works but can i ask if Example:
i buy eth coins in margin trading and i put the interest to 0.012% how the interest works? or how many days the 0.012% will decreased to my balance? every 2days or not?

The interest rate is per day and starts accumulating as soon as you open a margin position. It gets charged (taken from your balance) against your account as you trade, but i don't know specifically how the system works that.

For me, sometimes it's every time i make a trade the interest gets taken and re-starts back at zero, other times it gets taken every few hours, other times it just builds up for days. There may be rules around it but i am not aware of what they may be.

The margin trading tab shows your outstanding accumulated interest as 'unrealized lending fees'.

Make show you have a plan before you start margin trading as it's a shark tank. Alts are highly manipulated by whales to maximize their own profits with little regard for the coin or its perceived underlying value. Huge swings happen regularly to force account Liquidations  (as is happening with ETH at the moment). It you haven't set stop losses or aren't watching - things change in a split second and you'll be wiped out without a chance to react.

I recommend quick trades in and out while you're learning.
Good luck
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March 17, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
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0.012%  small profite

and it is legit  to loan your money in poleinx??
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March 17, 2017, 04:30:23 PM
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0.012%  small profite

and it is legit  to loan your money in poleinx??

It is legit.
Yes , the profit is pretty small but considering that there is simply no risk as Poloniex will always be there to cover you then it's pretty much worth that in my opinion.

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