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September 07, 2017, 09:14:09 AM
Last edit: December 18, 2017, 11:15:50 AM by frodocooper
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Switched to slush day and a half ago. Here are some calculations.
I've taken earnings log for roughly 24 hours period (23:57-23:05):

slush share stats for 24 hours period, 11 workers:

Code:
2017-09-06 23:05 0.00499041 BTC
2017-09-06 19:57 0.00465164 BTC
2017-09-06 18:27 0.00625130 BTC
2017-09-06 14:11 0.00436370 BTC
2017-09-06 12:13 0.00503095 BTC
2017-09-06 05:55 0.00440787 BTC
2017-09-06 01:44 0.00461456 BTC
2017-09-05 23:57 0.00406526 BTC

This looks like 0.03837569 total amount earned for 24 hours period or 0,00348869 earned per 1 miner which is not so great at all!
On the other hand while running on ant pool, I've got the following earning stats per the same 24 hours period:

ant share stats 24 hours period, 12 workers PPLNS+:

Code:
0.00088305 2017-09-05 20:56:43
0.00183433 2017-09-05 18:49:31
0.00185726 2017-09-05 18:47:37
0.00180223 2017-09-05 18:36:56
0.00176714 2017-09-05 17:54:50
0.00182929 2017-09-05 17:25:37
0.00181228 2017-09-05 16:48:49
0.00184875 2017-09-05 16:05:07
0.00190119 2017-09-05 13:46:04
0.00187099 2017-09-05 13:07:27
0.00187508 2017-09-05 13:01:38
0.00180875 2017-09-05 12:54:46
0.00188689 2017-09-05 12:23:37
0.00183198 2017-09-05 12:20:06
0.00182171 2017-09-05 11:57:11
0.00181533 2017-09-05 11:14:49
0.00188319 2017-09-05 10:45:00
0.00187279 2017-09-05 10:03:04
0.00189050 2017-09-05 08:24:03
0.00186119 2017-09-05 08:07:28
0.00181859 2017-09-05 07:30:55
0.00178793 2017-09-05 05:48:07
0.00180416 2017-09-05 05:27:24
0.00180796 2017-09-05 04:27:28
0.00188112 2017-09-05 04:19:09
0.00188118 2017-09-05 04:03:53
0.00180738 2017-09-05 03:34:49
0.00179688 2017-09-05 03:11:33
0.00181378 2017-09-05 03:08:41
0.00187308 2017-09-05 02:44:42
0.00187798 2017-09-05 01:59:26
0.00181983 2017-09-05 01:53:07
0.00190958 2017-09-05 00:54:11
0.00202465 2017-09-04 23:34:48
0.00185470 2017-09-04 20:25:32

Which gave me total of 0.06371272 for 12 workers or 0,00530939 per single worker which is much better. Does anyone has similar experience or may be more positive experience with slush? As per my understanding I should earn a little more while mining with slush because it also shares transaction fees while ant does not.

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September 09, 2017, 08:45:05 AM
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You can see at block stats that the 5. and 6. was poor performing days at slush. Yesterday was quite the opposite and would match your antpool earnings easily.
There's always some luck involved.
There's even more luck at kano, but then again a block does occationally take two days too.

Of course, as more people mine at the smaller pools they get bigger and blocks more often. We can't wait for that to happen, we gotta point our miners at them.

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September 17, 2017, 01:31:10 AM
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I switched over to Kano today
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September 18, 2017, 12:38:12 PM
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I have switched to Kano today as well after reading this thread. I was on Slushpool for about 5 days. I'm new to mining, so learning and trying things out.
Was getting around 0.00003000 BTC per block on Slushpool, they could come up between 4 and 8 times a day. 
So on Slushpool since 13th Sept till end of Sept 17th, a 1.1Th/s (Antminer s5) made 0.00192176BTC.  So around 0.00048044BTC a day on average.

So I'll leave it on Kano for a week and see if there is a noticeable difference.
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September 19, 2017, 08:02:43 AM
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Been on Kano for around 18 hours now, two blocks have been rewarded.
http://www.solent-renegades.co.uk/images/mining/kano_rewards.gif
Notice the 'Your N Avg' is only around 300Gh/s, but the Miner is doing around 1.1Th/s at present. Also notice 'Your N Range' this is the amount of hours your work is averaged over, so around 5 days it will take for my 'Your N Avg' to reach the correct throughput value.
This is okay, as we can roughly predict the rewards from this. (0.00004807 / 302.62) * 1100 = 0.00014855 BTC per block

http://www.solent-renegades.co.uk/images/mining/kano_block_stats.gif
Recently Kana has been roughly doing a block per day over the last 5 blocks. Lets take an average over the last 25 blocks. Taking 13.5 days to complete. So almost 2 blocks a day. 1.85 blocks processed in a day.

So a rough daily reward going by the results in the last 25blocks/2 weeks is, 0.00014855 * 1.85 = 0.00027509 BTC per day using the Antminer S5 @ 1.1Th/s.

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September 19, 2017, 08:36:25 AM
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no more, switched to Kano as well Smiley
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September 20, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
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31hours so far on Kano. Looking at recent average it should be around 1 a day. Hopefully fruits appear soon. Seen many blocks I have missed on Slush Sad.
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September 23, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
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You've gotta look at the stats long term. Thats the only thing that matters. I mined with antpool and slush before i changed to kano last year. I've been mining there ever since. Year every once in a while the blocks take longer, but overall i make more BTC on kano than i ever could have on antpool or slush.
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September 23, 2017, 11:06:20 PM
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I just switched to Kano as well, I hope you guys know what ur talking about.  I'm only running a single s9 because of power limitations at my house so really doesn't matter.  I've been trying a few different pools out the last couple weeks.  I am a fan of the smaller pools even though I don't bring much to the table, I was at Bitminter for a while and loved it but the difficulty has just made that pool obsolete due to it's low miner population/smaller miner rig sizes.  Waited 54 days for one block once, got a big chunk of BTC but that's just too long, I need to pay the bills ya know.
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October 17, 2017, 11:39:41 AM
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Just changed to Kano after reading this thread

Logged into slush and I had a pending balance waiting for me FROM 4 YEARS AGO! (it was below my minimum payout)

Put in a new trezor btc address, changed the min payout and got a payout 10 minutes later that has been sitting in slush for over 4 years

I used to run 7950 gpu rigs and mine to slush wayyyy back, was fun getting paid .1 btc every few hours, that would be REALLY fun now lol
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October 18, 2017, 03:29:28 PM
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Just changed to Kano after reading this thread

Logged into slush and I had a pending balance waiting for me FROM 4 YEARS AGO! (it was below my minimum payout)

Put in a new trezor btc address, changed the min payout and got a payout 10 minutes later that has been sitting in slush for over 4 years

I used to run 7950 gpu rigs and mine to slush wayyyy back, was fun getting paid .1 btc every few hours, that would be REALLY fun now lol

Slush is the pool I used to mine with as well (under a different user name).  Good to see they are still around.
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October 20, 2017, 07:13:36 PM
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Hi all! I am a beginner and I want to start mining Bitcoins. From the Forum I understood, that Kano has lot of advantages, compared to Antpool. Could you send me a link, where I can register and start mining with Kano?
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November 01, 2017, 02:26:58 AM
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Guys, just a daily by mining on pools that payout it bitcoin, you are automatically lowering the price of dash (which is being sold to get your bitcoin) and therefore lowering the amount of money you earn.

Now recommend me a good dash pool without hidden bullshit fees so I can stack up some dash before price skyrockets
So then perhaps checkout the ALTCOIN areas to find said altcoin pool... This area is Bitcoin, remember?

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December 14, 2017, 10:31:53 AM
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I'm also new to mining, and I think there are some reasons why people still mining on those big pools:
- Big pools also have better appearance and more well-known as well (even on wiki), and newbies can easily find that how much they can get DAILY
- They wanna get daily payment (even if they're smaller )
I now have 3 S9, 2 of them stick to viabtc or btc.com, and 1 to kano. 2 are for monthly payments, cause I sometimes can't wait for kano to get block & confirm, payment as deadline for invoices come....
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December 14, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
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...and newbies can easily find that how much they can get DAILY
..

Yes, some people are just lazy and don't spend their time gathering knowledge like they should be.
No other reason for mining at antpool. Just laziness.

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December 14, 2017, 05:06:45 PM
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why any one would mine on antpool is a good ? that does not have any good answers other then they must not know how hard they are getting ripped off or do and dont seem to mind that ant pool keeps all the tx fees from every block.  and is basically an insanely high hidden fee.   You do all the mineing and they get most of the profits.   

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December 14, 2017, 08:13:26 PM
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When will a Mod close this useless thread?

from the creator of CGMiner http://solo.ckpool.org for Solominers
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December 15, 2017, 11:43:07 AM
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i need to see real number to notice the difference not only words ...
how much you was making on antpool and how much you are making now when changed to other pool
that's the only answer that will make me change the pool
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December 15, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
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i need to see real number to notice the difference not only words ...
how much you was making on antpool and how much you are making now when changed to other pool
that's the only answer that will make me change the pool
How many times do you need to read it:
Tx fees are averaging 10-30% - and more - above the base reward of 12.5, currently on Slush they are seeing block rewards + Tx exceeding 16.5 BTC, highest recently was over 21BTC.

Antpool keeps the Tx fees meaning that Kano, Slush, and others that give us the fees pay us 10-30% more than Antpool.
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December 15, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
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i need to see real number to notice the difference not only words ...
how much you was making on antpool and how much you are making now when changed to other pool
that's the only answer that will make me change the pool
How many times do you need to read it:
Tx fees are averaging 10-30% - and more - above the base reward of 12.5, currently on Slush they are seeing block rewards + Tx exceeding 16.5 BTC, highest recently was over 21BTC.

Antpool keeps the Tx fees meaning that Kano, Slush, and others that give us the fees pay us 10-30% more than Antpool.
Clear enough for ya?

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