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March 12, 2017, 06:00:47 AM |
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These kind of services were to make the transaction more anonymous and increasing the security of the transaction. There are very few providing the mixing services in a better way. I don't think such a need is there, because bitcoin is already perfect in terms of anonymity.
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JofryTheKing
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March 12, 2017, 08:01:51 AM |
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Hey guys. I have a question regarding BItcoin mixing services.
Simplified they work kinda like this: I send them my BTCs and they send me someone elses BTCs to destroy the blockchain connection.
My question is this:
Even if they destroy the blockchain connection and i get my coins split to 2 wallets and everything is safe, isn't there a high chance that i just get someone elses "dirty" coins and he gets mine? Someone washes his crime coins in the mixer and gets the crime coins from someone else or something like that. I hope you get what i mean and someone can clear this up for me.
Thanks
I don't think that they are doing good job to mix there bitcoin Because the main factor is to change scammed bitcoin into good bitcoin . one of the my friend got scammed by the person And the person who scammed did something and after that he was not able to trace the payment . And what is the difference between these two types of bitcoin? Sorry for the question, I'm still not very much versed. Just how can they differ, how figuratively produced bitcoin, in a criminal way or not.
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HaXX0R1337
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March 12, 2017, 09:49:44 AM |
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Hey guys. I have a question regarding BItcoin mixing services.
Simplified they work kinda like this: I send them my BTCs and they send me someone elses BTCs to destroy the blockchain connection.
My question is this:
Even if they destroy the blockchain connection and i get my coins split to 2 wallets and everything is safe, isn't there a high chance that i just get someone elses "dirty" coins and he gets mine? Someone washes his crime coins in the mixer and gets the crime coins from someone else or something like that. I hope you get what i mean and someone can clear this up for me.
Thanks
I don't think that they are doing good job to mix there bitcoin Because the main factor is to change scammed bitcoin into good bitcoin . one of the my friend got scammed by the person And the person who scammed did something and after that he was not able to trace the payment . And what is the difference between these two types of bitcoin? Sorry for the question, I'm still not very much versed. Just how can they differ, how figuratively produced bitcoin, in a criminal way or not. The difference is that if the coins you are getting from the mixer is tainted,for example if the coins you get from the mixer are from an hacked address then the trails will be on you and there are possibilities that you will be held accountable or your assets get frozen as i have seen some exchanges and gambling sites freezing accounts for depositing hacked coins.
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erickkyut
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March 12, 2017, 11:20:33 AM |
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Be careful in investing on different bitcoin mining sites. There are lots of mining sites before that later turned into SCAM. I was a victim of a popular mining site before. The site lasted for almost 6 years (correct me if I'm wrong) and one day, we cannot visit the site because according to the staffs, it was hacked. Many investors lost their investments on that site.
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GalacticEmpire
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March 12, 2017, 11:26:20 AM |
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Be careful in investing on different bitcoin mining sites. There are lots of mining sites before that later turned into SCAM. I was a victim of a popular mining site before. The site lasted for almost 6 years (correct me if I'm wrong) and one day, we cannot visit the site because according to the staffs, it was hacked. Many investors lost their investments on that site.
This isn't about mining sites, it's about mixing sites. If you put your Bitcoins into a mixing service you can't be sure the coins you get won't be tainted, but it's safer than keeping coins if they're dirty coins. You're safe in the sense that they won't steal your coins as long as they're already trusted services like BitMixer.io or something.
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dunfida
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March 12, 2017, 11:29:45 AM |
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Mixing services or sites are profitable this is just my opinion since they are being used to transactions which somehow involves crimes and some used it for more anonymity purposes.They are safe since i have tried once the service like bitmixer it goes all fine and just as expected those bitcoin cant be traced so easily.
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arwin100
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March 12, 2017, 01:53:20 PM |
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These kind of services were to make the transaction more anonymous and increasing the security of the transaction. There are very few providing the mixing services in a better way. I don't think such a need is there, because bitcoin is already perfect in terms of anonymity.
No your very wrong with that bitcoins need cleansing also since their are wallet's whose doesn't want to be filled some btc came from gambling sites and thats the reason some of people mix their coins to wash and clean so that their would be no trace on where the coins came from. And also fraudster was their scammed btc so that they wouldn't be trace by anybody's tracing them on their transactions.
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Qartersa
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March 12, 2017, 03:49:14 PM |
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Generally they are safe. Most of the time I used one had no hitch so far. but I have seen a thread somewhere that the mixing service did not pay-out the bitcoins. The service accepted the bitcoins but it did not send the mixed coins into the address of the user. That could be a problem. but if the service is a reputable one and they have a letter of guarantee, you can dispute it that way.
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Rude Boy
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March 12, 2017, 03:49:20 PM |
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This is safe and you don't have to worry about this. You will not receive the coins of just another user, you will receive your coins from many addresses. I would gladly say that bitcoin mixing services is safe because its the same coins being mixed and even though there were dirty coins together, but important is they passed the mixing process yet it is safe already to be use in the system.
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traderethereum
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March 12, 2017, 04:10:49 PM |
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i think bitcoin mixing services is safe for people which want to use their service but unfortunately i don't use their service because i see this is not for me and maybe later i will trying their service. actually i do not really know about their service and how they can mixing bitcoin with other bitcoin.
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March 12, 2017, 05:12:49 PM |
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This is safe and you don't have to worry about this. You will not receive the coins of just another user, you will receive your coins from many addresses. I would gladly say that bitcoin mixing services is safe because its the same coins being mixed and even though there were dirty coins together, but important is they passed the mixing process yet it is safe already to be use in the system.
Just make sure that you're using trusted coin mixer so they will not scam your coin when you try to transfer to another address. AFAIK , the more fee you put , the more difficult people able to track down it's addy source no matter how hard they try
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Hazir
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March 12, 2017, 05:38:59 PM |
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Bitcoin Mixers are 3rd party services and as every satellite service they have potentially many points of failure:
- who can guarantee that mixer itself is not created by law enforcement agency? - mixers won't tell you but they keep logs with every mixed transaction - mixers are anonymous, exit scam is always a possibility
But to be perfectly frank I didn't hear about any case of failed mixing or scam done by well known and old mixer service so far, like Bitmixer.io
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Tesorex
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March 12, 2017, 05:54:16 PM |
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Bitcoin Mixers are 3rd party services and as every satellite service they have potentially many points of failure:
- who can guarantee that mixer itself is not created by law enforcement agency? - mixers won't tell you but they keep logs with every mixed transaction - mixers are anonymous, exit scam is always a possibility
But to be perfectly frank I didn't hear about any case of failed mixing or scam done by well known and old mixer service so far, like Bitmixer.io
Why would they keep the logs? but let them keep the logs all it takes for a person is to sell his/her coins for cash in face to face trade. And which government's agency? have you ever used a mixer just to end up getting arrested or anything like that?
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Bitcoinsummoner
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March 12, 2017, 05:58:27 PM |
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This is safe and you don't have to worry about this. You will not receive the coins of just another user, you will receive your coins from many addresses. I would gladly say that bitcoin mixing services is safe because its the same coins being mixed and even though there were dirty coins together, but important is they passed the mixing process yet it is safe already to be use in the system.
Just make sure that you're using trusted coin mixer so they will not scam your coin when you try to transfer to another address. AFAIK , the more fee you put , the more difficult people able to track down it's addy source no matter how hard they try Always need safe mixers and i heard before that there is someone are actually scam a mixer that you will just wait for an hour but your processing still pending.. the legit site that i know are legit that until now are alive is bitmixer and also a crptomixer. those are i know are legit and tested already..
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March 12, 2017, 06:55:13 PM |
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Bitcoin Mixers are 3rd party services and as every satellite service they have potentially many points of failure:
- who can guarantee that mixer itself is not created by law enforcement agency? - mixers won't tell you but they keep logs with every mixed transaction - mixers are anonymous, exit scam is always a possibility
But to be perfectly frank I didn't hear about any case of failed mixing or scam done by well known and old mixer service so far, like Bitmixer.io
Why would they keep the logs? but let them keep the logs all it takes for a person is to sell his/her coins for cash in face to face trade. And which government's agency? have you ever used a mixer just to end up getting arrested or anything like that? Why wouldn't they keep their mixing activity listed? It would be extremely stupid to not keep that data. For instance - mixing logs can be used in the future as bargaining chip with authorities in case mixer will be targeted by national security. Mixers could be used to launder illegally obtained coins. There is no doubt about it. America's defense and intelligence agencies are already trying to test the waters and learn how to block or infiltrate bitcoin financial network. U.S. national security is working hard to disable and dismantle nefarious networks. What do you think will be their first target?
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March 31, 2018, 07:20:16 PM |
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Always need safe mixers and i heard before that there is someone are actually scam a mixer that you will just wait for an hour but your processing still pending.. the legit site that i know are legit that until now are alive is bitmixer and also a crptomixer. those are i know are legit and tested already.. It is correct and safe to use a bitcoin mixer. When you get back mixed coins, it is impossible to determine their origin. The main danger lies in the fact that most of mixers do not anonymise your coins 100%. Bitcoin mixer https://bestmixer.io uses an innovative mixing settings that allows you to anonymise your coins completely. Pay attention to the list of vulnerable mixers on the BestMixer.IO. More useful information is available in the Wiki section.
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March 31, 2018, 10:40:11 PM |
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Bitcoin Mixers are 3rd party services and as every satellite service they have potentially many points of failure:
- who can guarantee that mixer itself is not created by law enforcement agency? - mixers won't tell you but they keep logs with every mixed transaction - mixers are anonymous, exit scam is always a possibility
But to be perfectly frank I didn't hear about any case of failed mixing or scam done by well known and old mixer service so far, like Bitmixer.io
As far as I know, Bitmixer.io closes its tumbling services due to heavy government pressure. We don't know if they kept logs of their customers or users, but it they did they authorities can track where the coins came from and possibly can isolated if this coins is tainted or not. So since their demise, mixing services doesn't keep logs anymore, well that's according to them because that's the downfall of bitmixer. Haven't heard of any mixing services that has run off with the money or scam people here. And the members are really very attentive and questions are raised specially if their is a new mixing services in town, specially having funds to cover and with escrows (at least 20 bitcoin, if my memory serves me right.)
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traderethereum
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April 01, 2018, 06:50:37 AM |
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I think it is safe although I don't have any experience with bitcoin mixing services, from the other members which using this services, they told that it's really safe for them. so I think if someone wants to try the bitcoin mixing services they can try with a small amount first to see that the services are legit or not. it's important to do like this to make sure that the services are not run away with our money and besides that, we need to test their services first before we use a big money.
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solarion
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April 01, 2018, 06:38:20 PM |
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Mixing service actually used by whales to split the multiple amount into the pieces for BTC. So I believe it is much safer to use the mixing service mate. There are plenty of mixing service available from the long time but bitcoinmixer already ends. Now chipmixer, cryptomixer, bitcoinmixer and etc are good one to use now.
Still I have not used the mixing service so you may contact the experts in that field get the best idea.
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