[POLL] Is this antiSemitism real? graffiti "Holocau$t I$ Fake Hi$tory"

[PeterTheGrape]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-synagogue-spray-painted-graffiti-denying-holocaust-164328830.html



There have been some minor protests about antiSemitism in the U.S. recently

https://knpr.org/headline/2017-03/marchers-protest-rise-acts-anti-semitism

I'm Jewish but my guess is that antisemitism is more useful to some than it is threatening to many, at the moment.

You don't see people beat up by police for being Jewish, nor people denied housing for being Jewish etc. Is that coming or past?

Are there any other groups more threatened by their lack of power than Jews, in America? Are there any less powerful groups? People with less resources to defend against abuses?

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A second mystery. Political Jewish people have always considered it a matter of pride to make sure no Nazi war criminal would sleep well. This hunting policy contradicted the apparent policies of the state of Israel, which is well known for not prosecuting seriously those who kill Pals.

Now there is a news article about a 98 year old man who may have, probably was, involved in killing civilians deliberately with no option for the civilians to escape. The man has been known for a while, it seems a mystery why he would be selected now. Then a person notices "his lifelong mission to help establish an independent and democratic Ukraine". http://www.startribune.com/july-16-2013-is-michael-karkoc-a-minneapolis-family-man-or-ex-nazi-henchman/215403371/ a note about that article. Do not google 'Antin Semeniuk' if your computer is not already loaded with spyware.

So is there some convoluted political motive here? Does the article in today's news https://www.yahoo.com/news/poland-seek-extradition-united-states-suspected-nazi-commander-171238620.html suggest that Poland is trying to curry favor with Russia, and wants the support of Trump? Or is it a simple ploy to make Trump's advisors try to think in circles until their heads pop? I don't know much about Ukraine and Russia except there are pretty women on twitter arguing both sides and I hope both sides are right/

[Xester]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-synagogue-spray-painted-graffiti-denying-holocaust-164328830.html



There have been some minor protests about antiSemitism in the U.S. recently

https://knpr.org/headline/2017-03/marchers-protest-rise-acts-anti-semitism

I'm Jewish but my guess is that antisemitism is more useful to some than it is threatening to many, at the moment.

You don't see people beat up by police for being Jewish, nor people denied housing for being Jewish etc. Is that coming or past?

Are there any other groups more threatened by their lack of power than Jews, in America? Are there any less powerful groups? People with less resources to defend against abuses?

Jewish people are now the richest people in America they are the majority holders of giant corporations such as oil production and other activities. Jewish people are no threat to the United States but the attention was delivered towards Muslims. Right now discrimination was focused on the Muslims due to terror attacks by the unfaithful muslims who are not following Quran but their violence and hatred.

[PeterTheGrape]

Jewish people are now the richest people in America they are the majority holders of giant corporations such as oil production and other activities. Jewish people are no threat to the United States but the attention was delivered towards Muslims. Right now discrimination was focused on the Muslims due to terror attacks by the unfaithful muslims who are not following Quran but their violence and hatred.

So you vote that antisemitism is not really a threat to jews in the U.S. at the moment, maybe other groups have more to fear from mass hysteria.

Do you think the holocaust was real or fake? Some aspects of the holocaust, such as some stories by certain people and lampshades that were paraded by the Russian army as having been made from human skin, were proven false. Was there actually a holocaust? Is it less established or more established as fact than other holocausts and genocides?

[VapeOil]

I always wondered why the Jews had a special word for hatred against them? Strange isn't it? Its the only religion that does this.

The Holocaust was a made up number by the US based newspapers. They were trying to get support from the US people to go into the war against Germany. I'm sure the Jews and other prisoners died in the labor camps. But there was no gassing to kill or eradicate their race. The camps were used to make Nazi munitions and other things they needed for the war. Why would they kill their work force?

All of the pictures we see from those camps show us emaciated people. Starving yet standing up. If they were truly gassing jews fresh off the trains why would they give them prisoner uniforms? Just line them up and shoot them. duh.. No instead they got rooms a uniform and a work detail. Sure, they didn't have enough food, but this was war time. Food had to go to the military first. The prison labor camps got whatever was left over.

[darkangel11]

I'm not denying that Jews were killed in the Nazi extermination camps, but so were other nations. Why do Jews have to get special treatment because of that and play the victims of a mass murder for many decades? It's estimated that about 6 million Jews were killed in the camps, which is a large number, but it's not the biggest. Same sources say that almost 10 million of Soviet prisoners of war and civilians and almost 3 million of non-Jewish Poles died in the same camps.

[criptix]

I always wondered why the Jews had a special word for hatred against them? Strange isn't it? Its the only religion that does this.

The Holocaust was a made up number by the US based newspapers. They were trying to get support from the US people to go into the war against Germany. I'm sure the Jews and other prisoners died in the labor camps. But there was no gassing to kill or eradicate their race. The camps were used to make Nazi munitions and other things they needed for the war. Why would they kill their work force?

All of the pictures we see from those camps show us emaciated people. Starving yet standing up. If they were truly gassing jews fresh off the trains why would they give them prisoner uniforms? Just line them up and shoot them. duh.. No instead they got rooms a uniform and a work detail. Sure, they didn't have enough food, but this was war time. Food had to go to the military first. The prison labor camps got whatever was left over.

Newly arriving people at the KZ's were divided into working force and not able to work.
The first were worked to death.
The latter were killed pretty much instantly with zyklon b.

[Alesis]

I always wondered why the Jews had a special word for hatred against them? Strange isn't it? Its the only religion that does this.

The Holocaust was a made up number by the US based newspapers. They were trying to get support from the US people to go into the war against Germany. I'm sure the Jews and other prisoners died in the labor camps. But there was no gassing to kill or eradicate their race. The camps were used to make Nazi munitions and other things they needed for the war. Why would they kill their work force?

All of the pictures we see from those camps show us emaciated people. Starving yet standing up. If they were truly gassing jews fresh off the trains why would they give them prisoner uniforms? Just line them up and shoot them. duh.. No instead they got rooms a uniform and a work detail. Sure, they didn't have enough food, but this was war time. Food had to go to the military first. The prison labor camps got whatever was left over.

Islamophobia is the term for hatred of Muslims.  Christophobia is a term (albeit less accepted) for hatred of Christians.

The only religion that "does this"?  What, do you think they invented the term solely themselves?  Do you think that a term for hatred proves that the holocaust was made up?  If anything, it proves that it is accepted that Jews have experienced hatred and therefore a term is needed for when people display hatred of Jews. 

Are you justifying Jews being put into prisons?  "they didn't have enough food, but this was war time".  Did they deserve to starve then?

[squatz1]

I'm not denying that Jews were killed in the Nazi extermination camps, but so were other nations. Why do Jews have to get special treatment because of that and play the victims of a mass murder for many decades? It's estimated that about 6 million Jews were killed in the camps, which is a large number, but it's not the biggest. Same sources say that almost 10 million of Soviet prisoners of war and civilians and almost 3 million of non-Jewish Poles died in the same camps.

It's because the most data is concentrated and known about how the Jews were exterminated and all of the data that is allegedly known about the Soviets, Pols and so on are not fully known nor confirmed by reputable sources. I would have to go ahead and say this is Anti-Antisemitism and that is disgusting as a whole.

The Holocaust actually occurred and millions of Jews had been exterminated, people must come to accept this and just take it as it was. I don't get how someone could even go ahead and say that is was made up with all of the data completely supporting the truth that it did.

Fuck these people.

[PeterTheGrape]

I'm not denying that Jews were killed in the Nazi extermination camps, but so were other nations. Why do Jews have to get special treatment because of that and play the victims of a mass murder for many decades? It's estimated that about 6 million Jews were killed in the camps, which is a large number, but it's not the biggest. Same sources say that almost 10 million of Soviet prisoners of war and civilians and almost 3 million of non-Jewish Poles died in the same camps.

Part of it may be that the poll is from an American point of view.

America cannot easily be held responsible for the killings done by German weapons in the 1930s and 1940s.

But if you look at something like holodmar or however it is written, it is a much easier process to turn the knife around and say it was instigated by the U.S. for political benefit. So in the U.S. at least it is more relaxing to avoid holodmar and massacres of Native Americans and instead put the focus elsewhere.