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March 13, 2017, 10:50:26 PM
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New just broke 30 minutes ago.


I know it means alot to the GBP fiat money market but does this mean anything to bitcoin as a whole?

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-39256795

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March 13, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
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Quite a few Brits may sell their £ to get BTC, but many, many more will buy $ or €.
I'm not expecting much change, if any. This was expected.

I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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March 13, 2017, 11:15:26 PM
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I'd say GBP is going to remain strong, it's Euro that I'd be worried about. GB doesn't need EU to function, it's the other way round. Countries that formed The Union were doing fine before and they will continue to do so when the Union collapses. Brits felt bad in there, so they left. There's really nothing to be scared of and I don't think they will start buying Bitcoin because of it.

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This is going to cause a slight upswing in the exchange rates of the UKP and a major downswing in the value of the Euro. This situation can exacerbate, if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom, and applies for the European Union membership. 

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March 14, 2017, 01:15:59 PM
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This is going to cause a slight upswing in the exchange rates of the UKP and a major downswing in the value of the Euro. This situation can exacerbate, if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom, and applies for the European Union membership. 

Wasn't Scotland saying that it wants to keep some agreements with the EU (like trading as far as I recall) while still being a part of the UK? Or have they changed the course? Shocked
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March 14, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
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This is going to cause a slight upswing in the exchange rates of the UKP and a major downswing in the value of the Euro. This situation can exacerbate, if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom, and applies for the European Union membership.  
That would be unwise of Scotland, but I can understand them as they never felt a part of the UK. They used to be oppressed by England and might see an opportunity (and money) in joining the EU.
IMO it doesn't mean anything for bitcoin, but the opportunity lies in the problem EU is facing. Euro will go down and the worse big currencies are doing the better for bitcoin.

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March 15, 2017, 04:37:47 AM
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This is going to cause a slight upswing in the exchange rates of the UKP and a major downswing in the value of the Euro. This situation can exacerbate, if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom, and applies for the European Union membership. 

Wasn't Scotland saying that it wants to keep some agreements with the EU (like trading as far as I recall) while still being a part of the UK? Or have they changed the course? Shocked

I heard that Nicola Sturgeon is planning for a new vote on the Scottish independence, probably later this year. Check this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39263613

And this time, the chances are much brighter. I have a feeling that this time, it will be exactly the opposite of the last vote (55/45).

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This is going to cause a slight upswing in the exchange rates of the UKP and a major downswing in the value of the Euro. This situation can exacerbate, if Scotland secedes from the United Kingdom, and applies for the European Union membership. 

Wasn't Scotland saying that it wants to keep some agreements with the EU (like trading as far as I recall) while still being a part of the UK? Or have they changed the course? Shocked

I heard that Nicola Sturgeon is planning for a new vote on the Scottish independence, probably later this year. Check this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39263613

And this time, the chances are much brighter. I have a feeling that this time, it will be exactly the opposite of the last vote (55/45).
Just heard this too.
All nations want to be independent from those British rule days. Those are so 1800's.

More power to the Scottish Ilse of Inverness! Grin

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March 16, 2017, 11:08:58 AM
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Im expected that to happen but for now I dont heard something change in exchanging Bitcoin to GBP.
Lets wait until they officially exit on the EU.

                       
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March 16, 2017, 11:12:37 AM
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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.

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More important is if other European countries follow the UK's lead and break away from the EU.

This would have to be extremely bullish for Bitcoin.
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I just begin to wonder why does everything that happens needs to affect bitcoin, even to those who promotes things such as this will continue to increase uncertainty around bitcoin. The next we will hear is what if there peace in Syria what will that mean for bitcoin, or if Israel and Pakistan shoud have a peace deal, what will it mean for bitcoin? some will even go to the extent that what if Isis stops killing what will it mean for bitcoin? The fact is bitcoin should stand and let world politics does its thing.
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March 16, 2017, 03:21:47 PM
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Im expected that to happen but for now I dont heard something change in exchanging Bitcoin to GBP.
Lets wait until they officially exit on the EU.
I think you did not wait. Even when UK was in the EU not to abandon the pound I think that now it will be even harder with bitcoins in the UK. They are very conservative.
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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.
Lower the pound the more jobs will come Grin.

I was bracing for a low point BUT like i thought WHO WANTS TO STOP MAKING MONEY

We will be booming GB products don't fall apart like CHINESE TAT  Cheesy.
Lower the pound the more we will produce ..
The higher the pound the less we will produce ..

Some businesses will benefit from the brexit some wont..
But many new starter companies have a chance now to make something good..
EU had big companies smash the little guy..NOT NO MORE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

The lower the pound the better.. OBVIOUSLY Not to low .

Anyone who produces something from the UK will be a massive success around the world Wink..
BRITISH PRODUCTS ARE IN HIGH DEMAND..Because of the fall in the pound we will sell all day..

I was hoping these big ELITE companies would go ..So new people could produce new products for the world.

Sick of the elite telling a country how it is    because you can put a factory in a nation and make loads of workers..WHILE PAYING NO TAX.. Angry Angry..GREEDY PEOPLE ..

Like FORDS CARS  ..Time for a new starter company to wipe fords out Wink..Well brexit can make it happen..

It gives the little guy a chance to make a new mass production car..
Not just cars many many companies WHO GOT TO BIG AND GREEDY ..SO I WANT THEM TO DIE Cheesy..
And some new company that will pay it's taxes will come along Grin..

I don't expect no down turn ..No body wants to not do business ..The EU will get told to FUCK OFF..
By companies because they are loosing money..

WE THE UK WILL BOOOOOOOOOM..





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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.
Lower the pound the more jobs will come Grin.

I was bracing for a low point BUT like i thought WHO WANTS TO STOP MAKING MONEY

We will be booming GB products don't fall apart like CHINESE TAT  Cheesy.
Lower the pound the more we will produce ..
The higher the pound the less we will produce ..

Some businesses will benefit from the brexit some wont..
But many new starter companies have a chance now to make something good..
EU had big companies smash the little guy..NOT NO MORE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

The lower the pound the better.. OBVIOUSLY Not to low .

Anyone who produces something from the UK will be a massive success around the world Wink..
BRITISH PRODUCTS ARE IN HIGH DEMAND..Because of the fall in the pound we will sell all day..

I was hoping these big ELITE companies would go ..So new people could produce new products for the world.

Sick of the elite telling a country how it is    because you can put a factory in a nation and make loads of workers..WHILE PAYING NO TAX.. Angry Angry..GREEDY PEOPLE ..

Like FORDS CARS  ..Time for a new starter company to wipe fords out Wink..Well brexit can make it happen..

It gives the little guy a chance to make a new mass production car..
Not just cars many many companies WHO GOT TO BIG AND GREEDY ..SO I WANT THEM TO DIE Cheesy..
And some new company that will pay it's taxes will come along Grin..

I don't expect no down turn ..No body wants to not do business ..The EU will get told to FUCK OFF..
By companies because they are loosing money..

WE THE UK WILL BOOOOOOOOOM..






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I think this is a mistake of British. They will understand it later. Now Scotland and Northern Ireland want to remain in the EU and this may be the reason for their exit from the UK.
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I always wondered why the UK joined the EU. I don't live on that side of the globe so I don't really follow the politics. But back before they joined I thought that the UK was doing just fine. The British pound was worth more that the USD. I think it was the highest valued currency before the EU join. I'm happy for the Brit's that they are leaving a union that seems to be run by Germany and France.

What will it do for BTC? Probably nothing. I hope all the brits go into alt coins instead  Grin..
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I always wondered why the UK joined the EU. I don't live on that side of the globe so I don't really follow the politics. But back before they joined I thought that the UK was doing just fine. The British pound was worth more that the USD. I think it was the highest valued currency before the EU join. I'm happy for the Brit's that they are leaving a union that seems to be run by Germany and France.

What will it do for BTC? Probably nothing. I hope all the brits go into alt coins instead  Grin..
Expensive currency is not always good. The higher the value of the currency more expensive product and the less it is competitive in the market. If the same product is 1 pound, 1 Euro and 1 dollar. Where will buy it?
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I think this is a mistake of British. They will understand it later. Now Scotland and Northern Ireland want to remain in the EU and this may be the reason for their exit from the UK.
Scotland and Ireland are DUMB ASSES Cheesy..

They sell more to ENGLAND than they do to the EU Cheesy..

Most people have no CLUE ..YES I KNOW IT ALL Wink.

The Blair rights are all getting paid by the EU why wouldn't they argue about loosing their money.. Roll Eyes
Even if Britain was doing terrible in EUROPE they still be saying YER we are doing well in EUROPE .

A lot of politicians are getting paid good money from the EU..BY my taxes Angry Angry..

We pay the EU 10 billion for what?..Cough to line the politicians who already rob our taxes even more money.

Then 20 years later the son gets paid and then his great grandson ..All Un elected politicians ..

We have politicians making money from our own government and making even more from the EU ..
GREEDY POLITICIANS ..

Half of EU aid wasted, stolen or lost in red tape: £11.5bn ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article.../Half-EU-aid-wasted-stolen-lost-red-tape.html
17 Jan 2016 - Study by MEPs found £11.5bn of the £23bn doled out fails to achieve ... Half the money the European Union spends on aid is wasted, stolen or

Sir Bernard Ingham: EU is corrupt, useless and riddled with fraud ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News › News Topics › EU Referendum
27 Jan 2016 - Sir Bernard Ingham has warned Britain not to throw away another £12 billion down the European Union's corrupt 'mafia drain' ... The European Union is corrupt, useless and riddled with fraud, Sir Bernard Ingham has said. ... Sir Bernard also said the EU was useless when it came to


Corruption costs EU 'up to €990 billion a year' – POLITICO
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22 Mar 2016 - Study says public procurement corruption alone costs the EU €5 billion per year. ... The EU has a corruption problem that could cost it up to €990 billion a .... The €2 billion complaint against the UK over customs fraud could ...

Scotland's debt mountain set to hit record £50bn by 2020. The figures, which highlight the effect of falling North Sea oil revenues on Scotland's finances, show that Scotland's deficit reached £14.9bn in 2014/15, up from £13.4bn in the previous financial year.

AND ONLY 5 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE THERE Cheesy..
Yes i can see the EU inviting Scotland with open arms Cheesy Cheesy.

And the same GOES FOR IRELAND ..The scots and irish will get a vote to leave the uk after the Brexit..

But believe me it's ENGLAND who buy more off both than the EU.

British taxpayers funded Ireland's £14bn bail-out - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › Finance › News by Sector › Banks and Finance
19 Jan 2013 - British taxpayers have provided Ireland with a backdoor bail-out of more than £14bn via the Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group.


AND THESE DAFT IRISH THINK IT WAS THE EU Wink..

like some of our politicians have an interest in the EU NO MATTER IF IT DOES GOOD OR BAD..
THEY ARE GETTING PAID BY THE EU..
EVEN IF YOUR LIFE IS SHIT OR NOT Wink..

Wake up dumb shits..We got told the SKY would fall in..Now it's not happened they are saying well we are not out yet..

Does the EU own the shops and businesses ANSWER NO  
so why would people stop selling to make there own lives shit FOR THE EU..

EVERYONE WILL KEEP SELLING ..
So take no notice of politicians they are getting good money to be an EMP..
And the fiddles as you can see from above how much gets stolen..


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nicola sturgeon is a power grabbing turd..AKA janette krankie

TO BECOME A POLITICIAN is not about doing good for your peoples ..
It's about doing good for yourself..IT'S NOW A JOB TO MAKE MONEY OFF..

I will become a politician to change the world for the good Cheesy Cheesy.

I will become a politician because i can fiddle taxes and contracts and have power and make loads of money.
FUCK THE PEOPLE Wink..

Also when they say a bail out you mean put our future children in debt ..

Irish Republic 85bn euro bail-out agreed - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11855990
28 Nov 2010 - European ministers reach an agreement over a bail-out for the Irish ... The details of the IMF and EU bail-out were discussed at a meeting in

see that bail out IRELAND   well even the children in ENGLAND are in DEBT over your bail out..
You don't think 5 million IRISH got that loan do you Wink..
No it was on the fact that the whole of the uk paid it back..

Also out of the 85 billion how much actually got spent on IRELAND.I wonder how much politicians robbed through the back door.. >:

Now you could say well we have been slaves to ENGLAND..cough you mean LONDON TWATS Cheesy.

TAKE A LOOK AT GREECE ..The EU is so good Greece is doomed .. Embarrassed Sad
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If the same product is 1 pound, 1 Euro and 1 dollar. Where will buy it?

What sort of weird logic is this? The prices will depend upon the exchange rates. For example, if a product costs 10 UKP, then the same will be priced 12.3 USD or 11.5 Euro, as per the latest exchange rates.

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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.

Yezzir. Like the Greek debt crisis, like the Chinese capital flight event,  it really doesn't change too much for bitcoin except make them really attractive to purchase. Anytime a fiat that commonly trades with BTC does badly, BTC usually reacts positively. So if anything, GBP will take a punt, and btc will soar. But, when Brexit is finally realized, there will be other market forces at play also driving up the price of bitcoin.

We will see Grin
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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.

Yezzir. Like the Greek debt crisis, like the Chinese capital flight event,  it really doesn't change too much for bitcoin except make them really attractive to purchase. Anytime a fiat that commonly trades with BTC does badly, BTC usually reacts positively. So if anything, GBP will take a punt, and btc will soar. But, when Brexit is finally realized, there will be other market forces at play also driving up the price of bitcoin.

We will see Grin

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On bitcoin's side, nothing will change much.

GBP will be ruined to deth though. Taking England out of Europe will cause massive trauma on Brits. In other words, long story short; Cheap Brit Coins are on their way.  Cool Stay with $$$.

GBP/USD used to be 2.0 wow, it became 1.5 later, and then 1.3, and now its 1.20. Soon it will be 1.04 or  smth, maybe lower. It will share the same fate as EUR. Maybe even worse.

Yezzir. Like the Greek debt crisis, like the Chinese capital flight event,  it really doesn't change too much for bitcoin except make them really attractive to purchase. Anytime a fiat that commonly trades with BTC does badly, BTC usually reacts positively. So if anything, GBP will take a punt, and btc will soar. But, when Brexit is finally realized, there will be other market forces at play also driving up the price of bitcoin.

We will see Grin

The rising value of the Bitcoin can be a double edged sword. If investors notice that Bitcoin is an asset which guarantees them an assured return, then they will start hoarding the coins. And that will go against the primary purpose of the BTC, which is to act as a currency.

Acting as a currency was never the main purpose of bitcoin. Bitcoin made us able to do so only in some particular occasions but it is still nothing near visa/mastercard in terms of usefulness on daily trades. (slow confirmations)

Is it good for buying a house, buying a boat, buying a car? Yes it is.
Is it a good way to get out of the banking system? Yes indeed.
Is it a good way to transfer your money overseas? Yep.
Is it good for hiding away your money? yepppp

Is it good for buying a happy meal? No it is not. (fail.)

You don't buy a house everyday, but you pay for the hamburgers all the time.

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The rising value of the Bitcoin can be a double edged sword. If investors notice that Bitcoin is an asset which guarantees them an assured return, then they will start hoarding the coins. And that will go against the primary purpose of the BTC, which is to act as a currency.
Bitcoin because of its deflationary design is already failing to act as a currency.
Tell me why should I buy something for bitcoin when my bitcoin might, and probably will be worth much more in the future?
We all know story of bitcoin Pizzas bought back in 2010 for 10,000 BTC, which is more than $11 million today.
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The rising value of the Bitcoin can be a double edged sword. If investors notice that Bitcoin is an asset which guarantees them an assured return, then they will start hoarding the coins. And that will go against the primary purpose of the BTC, which is to act as a currency.
Bitcoin because of its deflationary design is already failing to act as a currency.
Tell me why should I buy something for bitcoin when my bitcoin might, and probably will be worth much more in the future?
We all know story of bitcoin Pizzas bought back in 2010 for 10,000 BTC, which is more than $11 million today.
Yeah, I wonder Laszlo probably still in shock of what price he bought the pizza. I hope he managed to earn more bitcoins. He then said that earn a lot of bitcoins.
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These two issues are related tangentially.

Bitcoin is a mathematical construct, and math is independent of borders and governments. But its value (and especially it’s exchange rate) is based on pure supply-and-demand economics. In the long run, it’s value is likely to be buttressed by perceptions of political or economic instability or uncertainty.

To the extent that the public perceives instability or uncertainty surrounding the UK decision to exit the EU, Bitcoin may experience upward pressure. But if the EU decision ultimately leads to economic stability or confidence (on either side), then this event may exhibit little influence or even a mitigating force on the Bitcoin exchange rate.

My own hunch is that world events will gradually lead to adoption of Bitcoin for an increasing fraction of business and consumer activities—in addition to growing use as a speculative buy-and-hold investment or an investment hedge against inflation.
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I still think the UK would do fine leaving the EU. The problem would be Scotland trying to maintain its ties with EU that could lead it to separate with UK. If that happens I would no longer be sure both would do ok. As for bitcoin, a little instability would probably not do it much harm. The value could rise for example as people buy more of it as hedge against possible problems with their fiat. Hopefully though it wouldn't be so bad that the rich would buy up large amounts of it that it become so expensive most people wouldn't be able to buy any sizable amount, thus hampering wider adoption.
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I still think the UK would do fine leaving the EU. The problem would be Scotland trying to maintain its ties with EU that could lead it to separate with UK. If that happens I would no longer be sure both would do ok. As for bitcoin, a little instability would probably not do it much harm. The value could rise for example as people buy more of it as hedge against possible problems with their fiat. Hopefully though it wouldn't be so bad that the rich would buy up large amounts of it that it become so expensive most people wouldn't be able to buy any sizable amount, thus hampering wider adoption.

Instability = Bitcoin price increase. Same thing happens to Gold and Silver, which are commodities. Bitcoin is a commodity too now.

The UK leaving the European Union means a price increase for Bitcoin and we'll see that in a few weeks probably. People still do not realize what this means, and it probably means instability in the whole EU. After the UK we may see other countries get out too, turning everything upside down. And then I am asking myself, isn't this exactly what they want?

Look at the altcoins. All the recent events did affect the prices, and the most important ones are the ETF and the Brexit final decisions. Although there wasn't a huge increase in price in the last few days, we've seen some of them spiking (like DASH), while others did fall (like Bitcoin). People are going to invest in BTC because of instability, we all would buy the safest ones. But the millenials will buy Bitcoin because they love technology and it's interesting to have something portable that keeps rising in price, while there will be investors looking for Gold (these are the people with money) and the highest percentage is probably going to be people buying Silver. It's the most affordable for everyone around, and therefore has the highest chance to rise very fast in case something happens.
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The rising value of the Bitcoin can be a double edged sword. If investors notice that Bitcoin is an asset which guarantees them an assured return, then they will start hoarding the coins. And that will go against the primary purpose of the BTC, which is to act as a currency.
Bitcoin because of its deflationary design is already failing to act as a currency.
Tell me why should I buy something for bitcoin when my bitcoin might, and probably will be worth much more in the future?
We all know story of bitcoin Pizzas bought back in 2010 for 10,000 BTC, which is more than $11 million today.

Can't agree with that argument. Suppose you are having $10,000 in fiat cash and BTC10 in coins with you right now. A particular restaurant offers you a 5% discount, if you make the payment with Bitcoin. Will you still use fiat cash to make the purchase? If I am in your place, I would make the purchase with BTC, and after that I will convert some of my fiat to Bitcoin.

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I still think the UK would do fine leaving the EU. The problem would be Scotland trying to maintain its ties with EU that could lead it to separate with UK. If that happens I would no longer be sure both would do ok. As for bitcoin, a little instability would probably not do it much harm. The value could rise for example as people buy more of it as hedge against possible problems with their fiat. Hopefully though it wouldn't be so bad that the rich would buy up large amounts of it that it become so expensive most people wouldn't be able to buy any sizable amount, thus hampering wider adoption.

Instability = Bitcoin price increase. Same thing happens to Gold and Silver, which are commodities. Bitcoin is a commodity too now.

The UK leaving the European Union means a price increase for Bitcoin and we'll see that in a few weeks probably. People still do not realize what this means, and it probably means instability in the whole EU. After the UK we may see other countries get out too, turning everything upside down. And then I am asking myself, isn't this exactly what they want?

Look at the altcoins. All the recent events did affect the prices, and the most important ones are the ETF and the Brexit final decisions. Although there wasn't a huge increase in price in the last few days, we've seen some of them spiking (like DASH), while others did fall (like Bitcoin). People are going to invest in BTC because of instability, we all would buy the safest ones. But the millenials will buy Bitcoin because they love technology and it's interesting to have something portable that keeps rising in price, while there will be investors looking for Gold (these are the people with money) and the highest percentage is probably going to be people buying Silver. It's the most affordable for everyone around, and therefore has the highest chance to rise very fast in case something happens.
If there is an even worse economic situation, I'm not sure that even bitcoin will be positively affected. Perhaps you are right in this matter, but because of the lack of more information I can not understand what a strong problem can be.
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I still think the UK would do fine leaving the EU. The problem would be Scotland trying to maintain its ties with EU that could lead it to separate with UK. If that happens I would no longer be sure both would do ok. As for bitcoin, a little instability would probably not do it much harm. The value could rise for example as people buy more of it as hedge against possible problems with their fiat. Hopefully though it wouldn't be so bad that the rich would buy up large amounts of it that it become so expensive most people wouldn't be able to buy any sizable amount, thus hampering wider adoption.

Instability = Bitcoin price increase. Same thing happens to Gold and Silver, which are commodities. Bitcoin is a commodity too now.

The UK leaving the European Union means a price increase for Bitcoin and we'll see that in a few weeks probably. People still do not realize what this means, and it probably means instability in the whole EU. After the UK we may see other countries get out too, turning everything upside down. And then I am asking myself, isn't this exactly what they want?

Look at the altcoins. All the recent events did affect the prices, and the most important ones are the ETF and the Brexit final decisions. Although there wasn't a huge increase in price in the last few days, we've seen some of them spiking (like DASH), while others did fall (like Bitcoin). People are going to invest in BTC because of instability, we all would buy the safest ones. But the millenials will buy Bitcoin because they love technology and it's interesting to have something portable that keeps rising in price, while there will be investors looking for Gold (these are the people with money) and the highest percentage is probably going to be people buying Silver. It's the most affordable for everyone around, and therefore has the highest chance to rise very fast in case something happens.
If there is an even worse economic situation, I'm not sure that even bitcoin will be positively affected. Perhaps you are right in this matter, but because of the lack of more information I can not understand what a strong problem can be.

Check the history of the gold price before and during every big war. You'll see changes, positive changes. These changes will happen to Bitcoin too, because now people are finally not willing to go to tracked or centralized assets like Gold which can be tracked (I'm talking about cameras that are around or in that building when you buy it, online orders with delivery to your home etc) or like fiat which is the government's. If you look in the recent years you'll notice that we're starting to hate the governments more and more. That's because we're being monitored more than ever before, and secrets are hidden from us. Secrets we should know about, like the CIA spying on us and so. Who are we to be spied by them? Am I a criminal? Are you a criminal? We aren't, and yet our conversations can be listened by them, our cameras can be turned on by them remotely. Do we feel safe anymore? We don't. So that's why instability is going to come in waves pretty soon: they know we're starting to rise against them.

Bitcoin is like a new gold, but virtual. Except the scenario of a blackout, it will only have to rise during this instability all around the world.
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As a trader in other not to confuse yourself only following news that affect bitcoin directly as political news don't move bitcoin price.Brexit bill approver's news is a political news and most times politics don't affect bitcoin. Many people may sell off their pound but I doubt in their will invest it in bitcoin.
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As a trader in other not to confuse yourself only following news that affect bitcoin directly as political news don't move bitcoin price.Brexit bill approver's news is a political news and most times politics don't affect bitcoin. Many people may sell off their pound but I doubt in their will invest it in bitcoin.
Only Fiat varies depending on the political and economic situation in the country. For bitcoin it means nothing. Bitcoin can only be affected by demand and manipulation on the exchange, which makes it possible to earn on the difference in price.
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The brexit was approved but it does not mean an exit in using pounds. The countries who exited will have now full authority over their jurisdiction but they will not separate themselves from using pounds and that simply means that there is nothing for bitcoin in this occurrence. The only difference will come in is when Marine Le Pene will won the election and we can tell that LEPEN coins will raise in value and that has a direct impact on bitcoins.
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I am sure that the Brexit movement will have a very large and critical impact on the future of Bitcoin. After all, it is a currency and as a currency it will be influenced by different global events.

I think it will have a mixed impact on Bitcoin. As an example, the people of Britain will have a little more optimism when investing their money into the banks and government because they have not trusted the EU for so long - even though GB has its own currency it still owes debt to the EU. Theoretically it could cause a decline in Bitcoin price, however GB does not have a large user base of BTC and so I believe we'll be fine.

However, once people see how corrupt politicians across the world still are no matter what organization they may be apart of, I believe they will flock to the currency in droves.

It takes some adjustment because FIAT seems so reliable. In reality it is nothing near reliable or trustworthy. But more people will be moving closer to BTC -- especially with the new Brexit bill that was approved.

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