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April 22, 2013, 03:16:01 AM
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Does it really matter where it is? He is receiving the BTC. im sure thats all the 99% in here care about, getting the coins.

Let us suppose that you ordered a PC from Dell. Then instead of shipping this PC to you, they said that you could instead log into a server located somewhere in the cloud, would you feel cheated?
If your answer is yes, then the location does matter. I would sympathize with you because you ordered a physical good and instead received an EC2 server. If Dell were to stop paying the rent on that EC2 server, you would end up with nothing at all.
If your answer is no, then I have an ASIC to sell you.

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April 22, 2013, 03:22:54 AM
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Uh ya if the PC i ordered from dell made me money while dell kept it for me? And i didnt pay electric on it or fees to host it. And  i made back the money that hte pc costs?

Would i feel cheated? No

Please sell me this asic that you will host for me for free.

Waht are we talking about again?

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April 22, 2013, 03:24:29 AM
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Does it really matter where it is? He is receiving the BTC. im sure thats all the 99% in here care about, getting the coins.

Let us suppose that you ordered a PC from Dell. Then instead of shipping this PC to you, they said that you could instead log into a server located somewhere in the cloud, would you feel cheated?
If your answer is yes, then the location does matter. I would sympathize with you because you ordered a physical good and instead received an EC2 server. If Dell were to stop paying the rent on that EC2 server, you would end up with nothing at all.
If your answer is no, then I have an ASIC to sell you.

What a silly analogy, the only shipping units from BFL are the 5GHs  to developers and reviewers. To be able to mine on a 28GHs remote box I would consider a bonus, it's not like it's your power bill.


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April 22, 2013, 03:32:39 AM
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04/01/2013 02:44am a_meteorite: did you go to BFL HQ or was it shipped? assuming you can reveal that..
04/01/2013 02:54am Luke-Jr: a_meteorite: I've physically touched it, but I've left it at BFL for the time being.

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April 22, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
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Does it really matter where it is? He is receiving the BTC. im sure thats all the 99% in here care about, getting the coins.

Let us suppose that you ordered a PC from Dell. Then instead of shipping this PC to you, they said that you could instead log into a server located somewhere in the cloud, would you feel cheated?
If your answer is yes, then the location does matter. I would sympathize with you because you ordered a physical good and instead received an EC2 server. If Dell were to stop paying the rent on that EC2 server, you would end up with nothing at all.
If your answer is no, then I have an ASIC to sell you.

What a silly analogy, the only shipping units from BFL are the 5GHs  to developers and reviewers. To be able to mine on a 28GHs remote box I would consider a bonus, it's not like it's your power bill.

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In addition to it not being your power bill, It is also not your unit (yet). You might consider it a bonus, but you would not consider it a "BFL unit shipped to you".
Some people here are saying that BFL keeping your unit and mining it for you (like ASICMINER) is exactly the same as BFL shipping a unit to you and then you doing as you like with it (mining with it, reselling it, fapping to it, etc). I am saying the two things are very different. Promising the one and delivering the other should not be considered "good business practice".

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April 22, 2013, 03:53:46 AM
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In addition to it not being your power bill, It is also not your unit (yet). You might consider it a bonus, but you would not consider it a "BFL unit shipped to you".
Some people here are saying that BFL keeping your unit and mining it for you (like ASICMINER) is exactly the same as BFL shipping a unit to you and then you doing as you like with it (mining with it, reselling it, fapping to it, etc). I am saying the two things are very different. Promising the one and delivering the other should not be considered "good business practice".
Customer units from BFL are not shipping yet.  That's why they are called "pre-orders". I don't have an issue with that concept, I see getting access to a operate a device before customer orders are shipping as a bonus. How much is a BTC block worth exactly? More than the RRP of the 25GHs unit, that's for sure!

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April 22, 2013, 04:02:51 AM
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I will host a 665.99GH/s ASIC for you, please send 740BTC to me and I will start hashing for you in 2 weeks.

Uh get the proportions right. We were talking specifically about lukes little single right? How much did a little single cost. $649for 30GH. ~21$ for 1G .

740BTC * $120 = $88,800 /$21 = 4,228 GH.

OK ill send you 740 BTC for 4TH of hashing. You pay the electric and host it.

you still trying to imply bfl is a scam or something because im missing your point entirely.

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April 22, 2013, 04:34:15 AM
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Guys, I didn't start this thread for another trolling war to break out.
If it's going to go that way, I'll just lock it...
There are plenty of trolling threads already.

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April 22, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
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Luke, im sure you realize every post with the letters bfl in this specific sequence will turn out to be a trollfest. Even the post about a bfl fpga single got trolled.

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April 22, 2013, 05:01:25 AM
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Guys, I didn't start this thread for another trolling war to break out.
If it's going to go that way, I'll just lock it...
There are plenty of trolling threads already.

With the BFL history to this point, you have to know that frustration will bleed into any post that has anything to do with BFL.  You talking about getting the first block is like salt on the wound for many.   Just a thought.

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April 22, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
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@minternj
I will host a 665.99GH/s ASIC for you, please send 740BTC to me and I will start hashing for you in 2 weeks.

Uh get the proportions right. We were talking specifically about lukes little single right? How much did a little single cost. $649for 30GH. ~21$ for 1G .

740BTC * $120 = $88,800 /$21 = 4,228 GH.

OK ill send you 740 BTC for 4TH of hashing. You pay the electric and host it.

you still trying to imply bfl is a scam or something because im missing your point entirely.

Ok, send me 740BTC. I will give you 4TH of mining starting in 2 weeks.

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