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July 17, 2017, 07:35:24 PM
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My myriad is not withdrawn from 1.06.2017, the application is hanging, after the next ticket was written that the coin is delisting and they need to synchronize the wallet)), although before that 30 coins were withdrawn (there were several applications) from 90tys. In short, those trolls. I created a couple more tickets and they banned me from supporting))
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July 19, 2017, 04:57:50 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 06:10:15 AM by TheIrishman
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Fuck that shitty exchange. I requested a tiny withdrawal of 0.01 BTC and it's still in their "awaiting approval" state for over 8 hours already, meaning someone has to manually approve the request. Only after that the transaction will be broadcast. I opened a support ticket and it was summarily closed with an automated reply email saying that withdrawals may remain in that state for up to 24 hours - seriously???
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July 19, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
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If you're lending, then you don't hold your coins, so in the event of a fork, you will only get back one of the forked coin. It's normal, there is no way to do it differently, since the coins are lent to other users, not to Poloniex.

I wonder what's the reason for the "awaiting approval" some of you are getting, what is your level ?

I'm only Level 1, have provided my info more than a month ago to get to level 2, but it's still processing.

Nonetheless I can withdraw instantly, 2000$ worth of BTC each day for the last 5 days. I want to get everything out before the 31st July to ride the mess (and go to vacation) without worries.
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July 19, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
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guys i think its worse then we thought , i found this article , the guy is saying they did the same thing with ethereum fork ; if you guys a a bit wise , youll understand that they are doing the same now with bitcoin, i suggest everyone to rush a complaint to the sec that they arrest these guys asap

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ue785/i_am_filing_a_complaint_with_the_sec_regarding/

21 hours and counting...
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July 19, 2017, 05:53:26 PM
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If you're lending, then you don't hold your coins, so in the event of a fork, you will only get back one of the forked coin. It's normal, there is no way to do it differently, since the coins are lent to other users, not to Poloniex.

I wonder what's the reason for the "awaiting approval" some of you are getting, what is your level ?

I'm only Level 1, have provided my info more than a month ago to get to level 2, but it's still processing.

Nonetheless I can withdraw instantly, 2000$ worth of BTC each day for the last 5 days. I want to get everything out before the 31st July to ride the mess (and go to vacation) without worries.

I'm level 2, fully verified. This didn't use to happen a few months ago, withdrawals would be propagated to miners right after I confirmed them. And I only use Poloniex for very small BTC amounts, usually to convert some alt coin into BTC.
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July 19, 2017, 09:05:56 PM
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24 hours and counting... Unbeliavable!
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July 20, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
Last edit: July 20, 2017, 08:40:11 AM by TheIrishman
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After 27 hours of them illegally withholding assets that belong to me, I went to the contact page of the Delaware Attorney General to find his contact information. I then looked on Poloniex's site for their physical address and it only shows "Poloniex, Inc. 2017 - Wilmington, DE, USA".

Trying to find their complete physical address, I did a search for "Poloniex" on the SEC site, which raised a red flag - the SEC has the company registered as "Poloniex, LCC" and incorporated in Montana, with the physical address "1001 S. MAIN STREET SUITE 600 KALISPELL MT 59901".

A quick search on Google for "Poloniex, LLC" returned this very interesting reddit post from just 3 months ago among the first results (someone had made this research before me):

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with the recent altcoin runup... with most of the volume on poloniex, i'm quite worried that poloniex is simply cryptsy 2.0.

they were only recently legally incorporated (2/9/2016), in delaware, by a "virtual office" called vcorp services.

https://www.delawarelookup.com/company/5959580/poloniex-inc

https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/ecorp/entitysearch/namesearch.aspx (look for poloniex)

their 'address' is again, a virtual office (see: https://poloniex.com/terms/content.php)

1013 centre road, suite 403b , wilmington, de, 19805

searching for this address results in millions of other 'corporations' at this address. with hundreds of millions of dollars in volume, you'd think they'd spring for a real office?

they claim to be registered with fincen. (see: https://poloniex.com/terms/content.php)

    poloniex is registered with fincen as an msb (money services business), registration number 31000055869515. poloniex may be required to file details of account activity to this organization from time to time.

if you look up their msb number here: https://www.fincen.gov/msb-registrant-search there is no result.

there's a few other things like, particularly very little information on the owner. something stinks. the main thing that bothers me is the fact that they've been around so long yet still use virtual offices. we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars of volume, this isn't some new small business that can't afford a full blown office.

here's just a few 'legitimate businesses' that have the same physical address as poloniex.

https://www.owhealth.com/about.html

https://splitmetrics.com/legal-contacts/

https://www.vyayama.com/pages/terms-conditions

https://www.totemmi.com/pages/terms-of-service

http://scalarr.io/

https://www.appvirality.com/contact

can really go on all day.

edit: they were also registered as an llc in 2014, but this also was done by a virtual corporation service in montana.

In a nutshell: their physical addresses, both in Delaware and in Montana, are of virtual offices provided by companies like Vcorp Services, whose site advertises "same day incorporation and LLC formations".

The reddit user who started that thread posted this reply to a comment that said this was "common business practice":

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this is acceptable for new businesses, just starting out and need to conserve money.

not so much when you're already dealing with millions of dollars. they claim to have offices in boston... but they don't seem to keen to share an address, so it could be bullshit, or another virtual office.

but don't worry, we can trust them with tens of millions of dollars. their physical address though must remain private, we can't be trusted with that.
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July 20, 2017, 02:47:41 AM
Last edit: July 20, 2017, 03:33:45 AM by TheIrishman
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https://twitter.com/poloniexscam
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July 20, 2017, 10:11:13 AM
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Didn't the fact the coins on Poloniex are more then 10 times the value they should be with faked bot inflated volumes, would of been a serious clue for people that they doing some real dodgy shit.

When the coins they about to remove are announced they drop over 50% in value before the announcement is made. This is so all the insiders can sell off in time.

It is another cryptsy in the making. Wait a few more months.
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July 20, 2017, 11:35:08 AM
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TheIrishman : so you're doing all this for 0.001 BTC ?

Potentially screwing thousands of people who have real funds on Poloniex ?
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July 20, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
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Didn't the fact the coins on Poloniex are more then 10 times the value they should be with faked bot inflated volumes, would of been a serious clue for people that they doing some real dodgy shit.

When the coins they about to remove are announced they drop over 50% in value before the announcement is made. This is so all the insiders can sell off in time.

It is another cryptsy in the making. Wait a few more months.

The value of shitcoins doesn't mean anything. If they're removed it's precisely because they have low volume. Low volume = meaningless price.
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July 20, 2017, 07:15:55 PM
Last edit: July 20, 2017, 09:23:16 PM by TheIrishman
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TheIrishman : so you're doing all this for 0.001 BTC ?

Potentially screwing thousands of people who have real funds on Poloniex ?

It's 0.01 BTC. But whether it's 0.01 BTC or 1K BTC doesn't matter - they're mine and they can't deny anyone access to their coins without a very plausible reason.

And I'm not the shady exchange illegally witholding people's coins and hiding behind virtual office addresses - direct your vitriol to Poloniex. I believe making people aware of this stuff is actually helping them, giving them a chance to move their coins to another exchange before it's too late.

By the way, it's now over 48 hours since I requested the withdrawal. They haven't replied to my support ticket and it hasn't even been assigned to a support agent yet.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=poloniex+scam
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July 20, 2017, 09:29:47 PM
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I opened a ticket Tuesday and it has been answered today.

Not about withdrawing as I have no problem with that, it is about Level 2 verification.
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July 20, 2017, 09:33:17 PM
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poloniex is a scam like yobit,dont use these exchanges.
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July 21, 2017, 12:32:26 AM
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In a nutshell: their physical addresses, both in Delaware and in Montana, are of virtual offices provided by companies like Vcorp Services, whose site advertises "same day incorporation and LLC formations".


Having a known physical address did not do anything to prevent Gox or Cryptsy although it would give you a good destination to which to carry your pitchfork and torch.

TheIrishman : so you're doing all this for 0.001 BTC ?

Potentially screwing thousands of people who have real funds on Poloniex ?

I don't understand, how do his actions potentially screw other users?
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July 21, 2017, 01:30:30 AM
Last edit: July 21, 2017, 03:45:11 AM by TheIrishman
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Having a known physical address did not do anything to prevent Gox or Cryptsy although it would give you a good destination to which to carry your pitchfork and torch.

I partially agree. As far as I'm concerned, when a company refuses to divulge their actual physical address and hides behind virtual office addresses, that's a clear sign that they are deliberately acting in bad faith. Your examples make sense, though, if you compare what has been happening with Poloniex lately to the obvious indications of problems with those two exchanges which most everybody chose to ignore until it was too late.
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July 22, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
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4 days and counting... After 2 days the ticket was finally assigned to a support agent, who "has been working on it" for... let me check what it says: "Being Processed since 1 days 18 hours".

Yes, all that trouble for a 0.01 BTC withdrawal requested by a level 2 verified account.
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July 22, 2017, 10:23:09 PM
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everybody already knew about this. but nobody can do anything about it, there are too many users and all the whales is there. before Poloniex, we must rebel against YobiT
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July 23, 2017, 12:31:00 PM
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everybody already knew about this. but nobody can do anything about it, there are too many users and all the whales is there. before Poloniex, we must rebel against YobiT
why would we? Just leave that crap.
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July 24, 2017, 07:35:05 AM
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everyone take youre funds of the exchange, i just did a complaint to the sec and tomorrow ill do FBI, you should all complaint if you got stolen funds from them; as for the others you should wake up, this will close them for sure ; so take your funds while you can , look at my video for proof, its the post before

heres link for FBI complaint    https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/splash.aspx?
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