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March 20, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
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Is it time to short bitcoin? I think maybe it is...

Last month I wrote a post about a potential short squeeze coming https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801024

Sure enough, the price sky rocketed to over $1,300 after that as speculation over the ETH increased and shorts were forced to cover their bets.

Now it appears we could be seeing the other side of the story playing itself out. With the industry divided about a potential split and a lack of catalysts to send bitcoin up to its next leg it seems like going short could be the next best bet. Only time will tell for sure...

I currently hold no potions long or short and will be watching from the sidelines as things unfold in the coming weeks.

There is a good article on Wall Street Journal but the system keeps deleting it, i'll try to post the WSJ page url with no link this time for reference

wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-price-plunges-on-fears-of-a-currency-split-1489949541
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March 20, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
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i think is not good time this now you margin short bitcoin
because is very high in speculation, bitcoin price this now in level medium and stable price and flat price
can incraese high again or down
if good margin short if bitcoin price in level resistance price, this now bitcoin price in level pivot price or medium price
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March 20, 2017, 10:38:23 PM
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Profits should be taken at +$1200 levels. I personally am a long term holder plus an occasional trader. I am currently having a decent amount of fiat waiting for the moment the market starts heading down seriously. I will only start buying if the price happens to dip significantly below the $800 level. If there really happens to be a fork, then it will definitely sink below that level. If not, then no problem. Either way, I am well prepared for whatever the situation might be.
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March 22, 2017, 11:49:41 AM
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Today prices are showing huge upside momentum hence we can expect prices continue its rarely and this time it may break $1300 levels to test $1350 and then $1400 levels before making any U turn. As per my technical analysis this is not the right time to short bitcoins.

The major exchanges are showing good volume in the buyer side which must be counted as the supporting sentiment among traders for another huge rally. This is happening after bitcoin Unlimited faces sudden crash problems, it is believed people will continue their support for bitcoin core and hence we can expect more investors to adopt bitcoins.
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March 22, 2017, 02:33:25 PM
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Today prices are showing huge upside momentum hence we can expect prices continue its rarely and this time it may break $1300 levels to test $1350 and then $1400 levels before making any U turn. As per my technical analysis this is not the right time to short bitcoins.

The major exchanges are showing good volume in the buyer side which must be counted as the supporting sentiment among traders for another huge rally. This is happening after bitcoin Unlimited faces sudden crash problems, it is believed people will continue their support for bitcoin core and hence we can expect more investors to adopt bitcoins.

Exactly. BU is still not reliable as of now too many bugs and exploits found on the system. That's why is better to support bitcoin now because it has its own problem also but not big enough to cause any sudden crash. Although bitcoin price is really unstable this past couple of days, but hopefully it will pick the price up to $1200-$1300 and stay there and close out the year at $2000. Also, it looks like a good amount of investor is putting up money in the bitcoin ecosystem maybe they think that bitcoin is a good investment now and a potential huge profit is on the horizon.

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March 22, 2017, 02:56:17 PM
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Today prices are showing huge upside momentum hence we can expect prices continue its rarely and this time it may break $1300 levels to test $1350 and then $1400 levels before making any U turn. As per my technical analysis this is not the right time to short bitcoins.

The major exchanges are showing good volume in the buyer side which must be counted as the supporting sentiment among traders for another huge rally. This is happening after bitcoin Unlimited faces sudden crash problems, it is believed people will continue their support for bitcoin core and hence we can expect more investors to adopt bitcoins.

Price is normal in bitcoin and we must know price being volatile in the btc chart. Yesterday it touched 1100$ but today again it dump back to 1000$. We already started getting good adoption from 2014 to present that why we crossed plus value in the chart. Hope we should more adopters to pull the value up more than now. Just ignore the trollers a side.
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March 22, 2017, 09:14:08 PM
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I dont think so, the price will stabilise around the current price and will eventually rise.  I would be weary of people calling for the shorting of bitcoin and i would guess is that they want to buy cheap bitcoin. 
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March 22, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
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This is a very scary time to be making bold trading moves like this as I think we're going to be seeing extreme volatility due to hard fork speculations and the panic that is going to be caused by the buyers and sellers not fully knowing what is going to happen too. This is a time that as I trader (if you're small this is) you should just sit back and wait to see what's going to happen, you shouldn't be trading off of speculation like this anyway unless you're a whale who can afford some losses to make a ton back.

I dont think so, the price will stabilise around the current price and will eventually rise.  I would be weary of people calling for the shorting of bitcoin and i would guess is that they want to buy cheap bitcoin. 

This is also something that I think will happen as I don't think the hard fork will ever happen but you never know, thing change and Ver could pull some crazy shit with his Mining Army that is nearing the mark.

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March 23, 2017, 12:39:42 AM
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 I don't think the hard fork will ever happen and also bitcoin unlimited didn't worked out well
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March 23, 2017, 01:29:09 AM
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I wouldn't short Bitcoin right now. I think the time to short was when it was over $1200. Now we are kind of between buying and selling prices in my opinion. It's hard to tell which direction it would go right now.
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March 23, 2017, 05:08:11 AM
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Is it time to short bitcoin? I think maybe it is...

Last month I wrote a post about a potential short squeeze coming https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801024

Sure enough, the price sky rocketed to over $1,300 after that as speculation over the ETH increased and shorts were forced to cover their bets.

Now it appears we could be seeing the other side of the story playing itself out. With the industry divided about a potential split and a lack of catalysts to send bitcoin up to its next leg it seems like going short could be the next best bet. Only time will tell for sure...

I currently hold no potions long or short and will be watching from the sidelines as things unfold in the coming weeks.

There is a good article on Wall Street Journal but the system keeps deleting it, i'll try to post the WSJ page url with no link this time for reference

wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-price-plunges-on-fears-of-a-currency-split-1489949541
I think that it might be a good idea to short bitcoin right now because of the upcoming fork. I mean if a hard fork does happen then bitcoin(bitcoin core plus bitcoin unlimited value) will drop dramatically at first and will probably recover in a few weeks.

Personally I think that there is no real driving force for another price increase for now, the community’s quite divided.

Don’t trade with what you cannot afford to lose though, any margin trade is still a gamble.

You can even lose more than you've invested, even though that is very unlikely.
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March 23, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
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Is it time to short bitcoin? I think maybe it is...

Last month I wrote a post about a potential short squeeze coming https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801024

Sure enough, the price sky rocketed to over $1,300 after that as speculation over the ETH increased and shorts were forced to cover their bets.

Now it appears we could be seeing the other side of the story playing itself out. With the industry divided about a potential split and a lack of catalysts to send bitcoin up to its next leg it seems like going short could be the next best bet. Only time will tell for sure...

I currently hold no potions long or short and will be watching from the sidelines as things unfold in the coming weeks.

There is a good article on Wall Street Journal but the system keeps deleting it, i'll try to post the WSJ page url with no link this time for reference

wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-price-plunges-on-fears-of-a-currency-split-1489949541

I would rather just hold my coins right now instead of selling or shorting because the markets are always so unpredictable.
But yeah, if you are experienced in trading then you could probably look at several ways to hedge against a drop in bitcoin value.
Shorting it at a low interest rate could work as well.
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March 23, 2017, 06:38:33 AM
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Now, actually is the best time for shorting! I have try to figure out  price movement for the past two weeks an find out that the only people making it big as a traders  are the margin and leverage traders, the buy and hold are having difficult times as the uncertainty is high. BTU maybe seen as a negative sign for bitcoin now but with time we would all see the good part of it.
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March 23, 2017, 06:41:01 AM
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Now, actually is the best time for shorting! I have try to figure out  price movement for the past two weeks an find out that the only people making it big as a traders  are the margin and leverage traders, the buy and hold are having difficult times as the uncertainty is high. BTU maybe seen as a negative sign for bitcoin now but with time we would all see the good part of it.

I don’t think so… I would just hold bitcoin for the time being, don’t think that margin trading is a good idea. It’s just a pure gamble because you can’t take out the loan forever. Bitcoin has to crash by more than the loan rate you took out per day for you to make any profit at all.

I mean maybe i just haven’t got a good experience with shorting altcoins in the past. I shorted Dash at around 0.04 BTC thinking that it would go down in value for sure, but it surprisingly got up to $100+ apiece which made me lose over 1.3 BTC.

Anyways, i think that if you want to be safe just hold a few bitcoins and sell a few bitcoins for USD for a short term and buy back in later when the price is lower

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March 23, 2017, 06:54:08 AM
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Getting worried about it. This events are really making a fuss and you cant just ignore it. Our money are on the line here and yet it is like nothing for them. There should be only one belief and if it is Segwit then let it be.
But for some reasons this is shaking the bitcoin users and some may panic sell again and may cause the bitcoin to fall back. This is really not looking good.

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March 23, 2017, 07:23:24 AM
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Today prices are showing huge upside momentum hence we can expect prices continue its rarely and this time it may break $1300 levels to test $1350 and then $1400 levels before making any U turn. As per my technical analysis this is not the right time to short bitcoins.

The major exchanges are showing good volume in the buyer side which must be counted as the supporting sentiment among traders for another huge rally. This is happening after bitcoin Unlimited faces sudden crash problems, it is believed people will continue their support for bitcoin core and hence we can expect more investors to adopt bitcoins.

Price is normal in bitcoin and we must know price being volatile in the btc chart. Yesterday it touched 1100$ but today again it dump back to 1000$. We already started getting good adoption from 2014 to present that why we crossed plus value in the chart. Hope we should more adopters to pull the value up more than now. Just ignore the trollers a side.
It is really easy to adopt to the current bitcoin flow and the market, the prices may change but the same concept still remains, whenever there is a big spike in price it is always followed by a fall because of people dumping and then it is followed by a big spike and so on, the idea is that the price always goes back up no matter what.

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March 23, 2017, 07:37:26 AM
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i can just give you a warning and that is the fact that bitcoin price is a rising price, it may fluctuate from time to time specially when there are dramas going on with it but in the end any drama and FUD and the final dip means price goes even higher and faster when it is over the hump.

and i would like to direct everyone's attention to some search results:
Someone just lost $10Million trying to short Bitcoin
2 Million dollars lost trying to short bitcoin
Trader loses at least $240,000 trying to short Bitcoin rally

and these are just the tip of the iceberg.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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March 24, 2017, 06:53:45 AM
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I wouldn't short Bitcoin right now. I think the time to short was when it was over $1200. Now we are kind of between buying and selling prices in my opinion. It's hard to tell which direction it would go right now.
Well, You may have a point in that matter it is true that we are in the period of buying and selling of bitcoin and some are holding it not selling it. And for me its not good to make bitcoin into short. I do believed from 1300$ to 1500$ it will come to this price and many are expecting this things to be happen.
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March 25, 2017, 07:49:05 PM
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I dont think so, the price will stabilise around the current price and will eventually rise.  I would be weary of people calling for the shorting of bitcoin and i would guess is that they want to buy cheap bitcoin. 
yes i think i can also hope so, the price of bitcoin is not going to decrease anymore and hope that it will stay here for some time and hope that then the price of bitcoin will start increasing again and hope that this time it will cross his all time price again. 
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May 21, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
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Profits should be taken at +$1200 levels. I personally am a long term holder plus an occasional trader. I am currently having a decent amount of fiat waiting for the moment the market starts heading down seriously. I will only start buying if the price happens to dip significantly below the $800 level. If there really happens to be a fork, then it will definitely sink below that level. If not, then no problem. Either way, I am well prepared for whatever the situation might be.

Yeah the price is skyrocketed already and I'm in ambiguity as well whether it will hit down or not. I'm waiting for the short situation as well but this is not the time yet. Bitcoin seems to be moving further but now the situation is like it may come down or may go up without any notice. I have seen few downward trends in the past which clearly states bitcoin came to deep down in a single night which could be disastrous. Let's see. I'm too prepared anyway.
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