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June 17, 2011, 09:46:09 PM
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Guys, I totally messed up. I was hungry, and I didn't have any clean silverware. Taking what I thought to be an empty USB drive, I proceeded to spread peanut butter with it, and jelly (yum - strawberry!) on some bread. But then the dog started barking and totally distracted me. I turned around, and much to my dismay the dang beast leaped up and snatched my USB-knife out of my hands!

There he was, snarfing down my USB drive, when I realized... oh no... my WALLET WAS ON IT.

So, I tried to reach down his throat but it was no good. He didn't like me doing that, and clamped down pretty hard on my hand. I think I broke something too, because I heard a snap. Or maybe that was the USB key case cracking in my dogs throat, I'm not sure. So, I put things away while bleeding copiously everywhere, and sat down clutching a soaked dish-rag as a bandage to check on my wallet backups.

Well, wouldn't you know it, my dog had some kind of coughing fit and BAM, the key flew out of his mouth, into my eye!! Now I'm screaming a lot and the neighbors are starting to shout at me to knock it off, but I can only see out of one eye here - and goddamn does it sting! Stupid dog!

Now I realize I'm losing too much blood, and I think I might be close to shorting out my laptop. The dog is barking, the USB drive is lying somewhere in the room covered in dog drool and bile, perhaps unrecoverable, and my vision is starting to turn into a tunnel of blackness....

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June 17, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
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Guys, I totally messed up. I was hungry, and I didn't have any clean silverware. Taking what I thought to be an empty USB drive, I proceeded to spread peanut butter with it, and jelly (yum - strawberry!) on some bread. But then the dog started barking and totally distracted me. I turned around, and much to my dismay the dang beast leaped up and snatched my USB-knife out of my hands!

There he was, snarfing down my USB drive, when I realized... oh no... my WALLET WAS ON IT.

So, I tried to reach down his throat but it was no good. He didn't like me doing that, and clamped down pretty hard on my hand. I think I broke something too, because I heard a snap. Or maybe that was the USB key case cracking in my dogs throat, I'm not sure. So, I put things away while bleeding copiously everywhere, and sat down clutching a soaked dish-rag as a bandage to check on my wallet backups.

Well, wouldn't you know it, my dog had some kind of coughing fit and BAM, the key flew out of his mouth, into my eye!! Now I'm screaming a lot and the neighbors are starting to shout at me to knock it off, but I can only see out of one eye here - and goddamn does it sting! Stupid dog!

Now I realize I'm losing too much blood, and I think I might be close to shorting out my laptop. The dog is barking, the USB drive is lying somewhere in the room covered in dog drool and bile, perhaps unrecoverable, and my vision is starting to turn into a tunnel of blackness....

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You should have encrypted and backed up your eye. Your fault. It's a free market, tough luck.
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June 17, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
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Almost as good as the Voldemort story... Which only wins because it's true.  Cheesy

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June 18, 2011, 01:41:31 AM
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I never delete any wallet, not even empty/test wallets.

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  • 'Empty' wallets might contain value lower than 0.01, eg 0.00154842 btc.
  • 'Empty' wallets might contain value much higher than 0.01, if they are somehow corrupt and not reporting the correct balance.
  • 'Empty' wallets might contain an address than has been made public (i.e. a donation address) that might receive unexpected funds one day.
  • It's easy to move all your unused wallets to an encrypted archive instead. Mark them by the date they were archived or something.

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June 18, 2011, 08:29:09 AM
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Linux shred does not work on file level. That's a prehistoric tool. Stop using the filesystem with the wallets on it immediately. Scan the whole partition for wallet-like patterns after that.

Yeah, I read somewhere that shred doesn't even work on modern (journal-based?) filesystems such as ntfs and ext3. Writes are done on fresh blocks, leaving the original intact until some other write operation overwrites it. which is why you should stop using the disk immediately.

Your wallet should still be on the disk. Good luck finding it, though it is doable.
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July 09, 2011, 12:38:58 AM
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yes! btc recovered.

thanks makomk:
forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25091.0


How appropriate that the BTC resurrection is celebrated with a thread resurrection.

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July 09, 2011, 12:53:06 AM
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The shred command is a lie? It doesn't obliterate data?

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July 09, 2011, 01:00:06 AM
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The shred command is a lie? It doesn't obliterate data?

As far as I gather, if it ever ended up in the page file, or if there was ever a backup copy that wasn't shredded, then you can recover it.

One of the reasons I'm interested to see exactly how secure the client side wallet encryption for Bitcoin is going to be.

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July 09, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
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If you consider the chances of hardware failure, data corruption, user mistakes, and the fact that the wallet use to be hidden somewhere in the system partition (at least make a portable client, so you know where your wallet is!), I think they are biggest threats than viruses.

I did setup a redundant automatic encrypted backup of my wallets in the cloud (on several accounts on live and gmail space) using Cobian backup and Gladinet cloud desktop (both freeware) and I would recommend to anyone to do s.t. like that.

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July 09, 2011, 01:35:08 PM
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yes! btc recovered.

thanks makomk:
forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25091.0

Congratulations! Slightly surprising that worked, but I guess shred really isn't an 100% reliable way of deleting files these days. Most of the warnings in the shred manpage refer to setups that aren't actually very common...

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