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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
Well you have to pay a hefty fee for that anonymity that’s for sure. My advice for you is to go to Localbitcoins or Paxful, depending on which site you are most comfortable using, go to “Cash” listings, and meet the guy in person. I mean yeah, that’s not anonymous but i think you don’t want the government or big companies to know your personal identity, not individuals. Or you could get gift cards, but these sell for a hefty discount which could result in a really really bad deal. If you get amazon GCs you’ll get 70-75% even with receipts, max. |
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Yuuto
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March 25, 2017, 10:07:40 PM |
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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
I think that the best way to purchase bitcoin without people knowing your identity is doing a cash in mail transaction on Localbitcoins or Paxful like others suggested. The process might take some time but there is no way to track that letter containing cash back to you if you do it correctly and use some stealth in your packaging. However, make sure that the cash doesn’t get noticed and stolen by some dishonest mailman. And don’t be stupid and write a return address. You want anonymity, so you’ll have to take a risk of the mail being lost forever. |
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March 26, 2017, 11:14:30 AM |
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The easiest way? You buy a bitcoin miner off ebay or craigslist or wherever for cash. You then plug it into your wall and pay the electrical company for bitcoins at a hopefully reduced rate  Tada... No paper trail connected to your bitcoins this way. It requires a bit of patience but is the best $ to BTC rate if you can figure out a good setup. |
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rockman123 (OP)
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March 27, 2017, 06:14:06 PM |
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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
I think that the best way to purchase bitcoin without people knowing your identity is doing a cash in mail transaction on Localbitcoins or Paxful like others suggested. The process might take some time but there is no way to track that letter containing cash back to you if you do it correctly and use some stealth in your packaging. However, make sure that the cash doesn’t get noticed and stolen by some dishonest mailman. And don’t be stupid and write a return address. You want anonymity, so you’ll have to take a risk of the mail being lost forever. Would gift cards exchanged on Paxful be anonymous? Can for example Amazon gift cards be traced for where they were bought? |
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March 28, 2017, 06:02:35 AM |
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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
Well, i should tell you about how i convert cash to bitcoin i just buy bitcoin from my friend or to someone who sell bitcoin i know its a risky move to buy bitcoin from who you don't know yet but i just buy bitcoin for a little amount first before i get into the big amount of buying bitcoin so i just visit the guy who sells bitcoin or trace him before i buy bitcoin so that it would be secure in buying bitcoin.. you should try it i don't really apply that details thing its so hassle in my view >.< |
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March 28, 2017, 04:40:25 PM |
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Anonymous way of buying and selling is possible but it is risky. One could make anonymous transaction only through the forum, can buy or sell bitcoin in exchange for gift cards which can be used later. Here the buyer and seller identity won't get revealed.
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numismatist
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March 28, 2017, 08:32:05 PM |
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The easiest way? You buy a bitcoin miner off ebay or craigslist or wherever for cash. You then plug it into your wall and pay the electrical company for bitcoins at a hopefully reduced rate Tada... No paper trail connected to your bitcoins this way.It requires a bit of patience but is the best $ to BTC rate if you can figure out a good setup. The IP adress of the wallet solving the block would be recognizeable. Hence the 12.5 BTC got a resolveable name attached to them. |
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March 28, 2017, 11:15:16 PM |
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The easiest way? You buy a bitcoin miner off ebay or craigslist or wherever for cash. You then plug it into your wall and pay the electrical company for bitcoins at a hopefully reduced rate Tada... No paper trail connected to your bitcoins this way.It requires a bit of patience but is the best $ to BTC rate if you can figure out a good setup. The IP adress of the wallet solving the block would be recognizeable. Hence the 12.5 BTC got a resolveable name attached to them. From public internet place you can order Bitcoin Debit Card for fake name and surname and for Box mail. Lifetime limit is 2500 euro. Any questions? Edit: I think, I don't have to add that for any order we can change name and Box mail. |
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March 29, 2017, 03:30:41 AM |
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Anonymous way of buying and selling is possible but it is risky. One could make anonymous transaction only through the forum, can buy or sell bitcoin in exchange for gift cards which can be used later. Here the buyer and seller identity won't get revealed.
But how it is possible. If you move the btc traders in online or in you city. You have to pass the bank details to complete the trade right. If you buy a btc debit card also. You need to provide a proper details to order a card right. There is nothing gonna happen simply the bitcoin, but always use an escrow in your trade while buying or selling bitcoin because scammers are everywhere. As you said exchanging Gift cards to buy the bitcoin would not reveal your information. |
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March 29, 2017, 04:13:56 AM |
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The easiest way? You buy a bitcoin miner off ebay or craigslist or wherever for cash. You then plug it into your wall and pay the electrical company for bitcoins at a hopefully reduced rate Tada... No paper trail connected to your bitcoins this way.It requires a bit of patience but is the best $ to BTC rate if you can figure out a good setup. The IP adress of the wallet solving the block would be recognizeable. Hence the 12.5 BTC got a resolveable name attached to them. From public internet place you can order Bitcoin Debit Card for fake name and surname and for Box mail. Lifetime limit is 2500 euro. Any questions? Edit: I think, I don't have to add that for any order we can change name and Box mail. Bitcoin debit card is good since we can use false information when we try to order online from those site which gives this service.It make you anonymous on making transactions but instances of emergencies related to your card would really be a big problem later on. |
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etherparty
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March 29, 2017, 07:01:57 AM |
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Find a friend who owns Bitcoins and buy directly with cash. |
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numismatist
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March 29, 2017, 07:35:13 AM |
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From public internet place you can order Bitcoin Debit Card for fake name and surname and for Box mail. Lifetime limit is 2500 euro.
Any questions?
Edit: I think, I don't have to add that for any order we can change name and Box mail.
Bitcoin debit card is good since we can use false information when we try to order online from those site which gives this service.It make you anonymous on making transactions but instances of emergencies related to your card would really be a big problem later on. That would become common bussiness practices on retail stores, if the debit information supplied are smelling of bitcoin. At first attempt the store just keeps billing the money, but is not delivering any packages at all. Easy money. If a customer in reclamations phase one can prove to be real, packaging and delivery would begin otherwise. |
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March 29, 2017, 01:12:15 PM |
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What I like to do is to buy a pre paid Visa gift card and use it online to buy bitcoins. Completely anonymous.
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thend1949
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March 29, 2017, 01:22:34 PM |
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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
I'm not converting my cash to bitcoin anonymously, because I'm using my real name in my account in exchange site in my country. I can't convert my money to bitcoin if I don't use my real name and I.d Verification. But If you want to convert your cash to bitcoin anonymously try to find a trusted person who owns bitcoin and buy some bitcoin to him/her. |
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March 29, 2017, 07:37:09 PM |
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I understand that no method will ever be completely anonymous, but there seems to be a complete lack of even close to anonymous options to buy bitcoin. For example, stuff like OKpay or PerfectMoney need your personal details and verification.
Things like wire transfer and Paypal mean other people and companies get to know your name.
So HOW do you do it? (don't say prepaid cards since those aren;t available everywhere.
Buying/Cashing out anonymously, that's always a tricky thing to do. Your best would be to do a P2P trade; try friends, Local Bitcoins, or the currency conversion section of this forum. Good luck :] |
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April 08, 2017, 04:13:04 PM |
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You first need to cast a magic spell to convert the bitcoin into money ^^ No I'm joking. You trade it like you would any other commodity. Online or offline to whoever has the demand for it. Just as anything else you can buy or sell. It's just digital this time that is all. Not too hard to understand since the money in your bank is digital too. There many places and traders online have a look in the exchange threads. Have fun ! |
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April 08, 2017, 04:17:49 PM |
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I know there are debit cards that allow, anonymously, to convert Bitcoin to fiat. But I do not know of any service that allows the reverse operation.
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June 30, 2017, 07:09:30 AM |
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Well AFAIK, Paxful hasn't asked me for any ID yet and I've been buying in their
marketplace for approximately 9 months.
So, yeah, please try it if anonymity is Important to you.
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June 30, 2017, 08:56:57 AM |
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bitcoin is more or less anonymous if you use tor, but exchangers are not anonymous and there are even sooo crazy exchangers they can record you with a hidden camera  beside it, when you sell bitcoins, you can get the fake money and later is too late because you gave already 2-3 bitcoins and the criminal is gone. it happens usually in big cities in germany, etc. I don't like localbitcoin because they prefer to publish big exchangers, if you are new, they hide your offer, so, people can see only those predators exchangers who verified their ID and they turn 1000 BTC per month and they steal from you 10% "fee/commision". beside it, localbitcoin pushes you to upload some amount of bitcoin. debit cards are not good any more, I just checked yesterday, most of them are companies registered in London by Lithuanians who demand from you your phone, ID and utility bill, that's enough for them to make an offshore company on your name without your knowledge and they can get a bank account and make financial crimes on your name, or they can simply sell IDs. lithuanians register 1000 offshore companies and they use it for different types of criminality, even drugs and export of arms to africa. remember always simple thing: why they need more than your ID when your local bank demands only ID? even paypal demands only ID, but they demand and your phone and utility bill. because they need copy of your passport and the proof of your address to make offshore companies in Belize, Seychelles, etc. |
debit cards websites are companies registered in London by Lithuanians who demand from you your phone, ID and utility bill, that's enough for them to make offshore companies on your name without your knowledge and they can get a bank account and make financial crimes on your name, or they can simply sell IDs. don't give to anyone too much info.
why they need more than your ID when your local bank demands only ID?
don't use coinbase, they are NSA spying shit, they make database of people that use bitcoins.
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June 30, 2017, 12:49:47 PM |
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That's why I always say that Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous. Whenever you want to convert it to fiat or want to buy Bitcoins with Fiat then your identity will be known.
I have a personal group of local whom I trust and wherever I want fiat I just exchange with them. Otherwise localbitcoins is the best.
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