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[CriminologyProf]

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[talkbitcoin]

With uncertainty about the coming Bitcoin Fork,

everything is perfectly clear about fork and there is no uncertainty apart from FUD.
!!!there is no fork!!!

I think Ether's rise will last until everything is sorted out.

why do you think that? as i said there was only FUD about bitcoin and nothing more.
and even if there were something wrong with bitcoin, people will never choose ethereum as a replacement.
 

But the question is: how high will it go, and where will it settle back down to afterwords?
I'm thinking it may rise to around $75, and sink back down to a steady  $20.
Thoughts?

the possibility of another rise for ethereum is really low. there has been enough rise.

you should know that any coin out there has a limit on how much it can be pumped. you can not pump them forever. and ethereum has been getting pumped for a long time and for a lot that there is not much room left.

if i had to guess i would say there is only down to go for ethereum at this point although there may be some small rises and then some dead cat bounces. and price will go down to $7-$10 like it always does.

[dfd1]

1) Etherium is a botnet
2) There is no any real adoption, etherium holders keep their coins on exchanges and never download a wallet, since they don't want to participiate in a botnet.
3) 3/4 of all etherium clones died after horrible fork, etherium testnets regularly die in horrible fork, this shit generate too many orphans.  There is no way 15 second blocks can exist on decentralized network, so etherium mining probably highly centralized.
4) Massive spam campaign on fake news websites and forums going on.

[metropolia]

If Bitcoin will have hard fork in the future, the price will 100% plummet, so Ethereum will go the the moon, its market cap may be higher than BTC's. My ATH for ETH is 0.1-0.2 btc.

[andron8383]

If Bitcoin will have hard fork in the future, the price will 100% plummet, so Ethereum will go the the moon, its market cap may be higher than BTC's. My ATH for ETH is 0.1-0.2 btc.

If BTC will have fork it can go to  0.1-0.2 btc but then it will be no go zone for many inwestors. ETH can rise but that rise will cost making ANY daps on it so at some point they will have to decide or be DAPs or currency.
Currency = higher price
DAPs = low price because higher price of running ETH DAPs is killing any buisness on chain.
Same today BTC is killing some business using BTC chain.
Network have limits ETH also have limits. And what is more important if someone lets say jail/hurt/kill Vitalik where ETH will go ? , centralized systems have that problem that is their central point here is "Vitalik" for Eth, and Evan for Dash.

Today ETH chain can grow like 5x more and then will be problems starting.
Devs will see problems ahead and dump on ETH owners ... ups sorry they will won't worn  you. From my experience taking risk in buying in ETH is to high is better even to invest in Waves/Lisk than trying to get next 200% on ETH.
Eth have fundamental flaws to me hype will be over at some point and reality will hit hard ETH believers. There are arguments why BTC devs don't want make block progress 1MB/2MB/4MB...

[mining1]

With uncertainty about the coming Bitcoin Fork, I think Ether's rise will last until everything is sorted out. But the question is: how high will it go, and where will it settle back down to afterwords?

I'm thinking it may rise to around $75, and sink back down to a steady  $20.

Thoughts?

Raiden will be released in 1-2 weeks and it will bring mass scaling to ethereum. No other project managed to do this yet. So i see an upside of 100$ after it will be released. Bitcoin's uncertainty and technological stagnation may bring it into ~150$ range, 200$ would be only possible only if bitcoin will be on the brink of collapse and people will move their money into ETH.

If bitcoin fully recovers ( but the technological stangation will obviously still be a problem ) and the people who bought eth as a hedge against bitcoin move back, either way i don't see ETH going below 45-50$ with raiden implemented and fully working. It's massive development and usage by institutions and corporations is too big atm, and speculators follow that.

[kryptqnick]

If Bitcoin will have hard fork in the future, the price will 100% plummet, so Ethereum will go the the moon, its market cap may be higher than BTC's. My ATH for ETH is 0.1-0.2 btc.

Yes, I've been reading about hard fork and, unfortunately, it is very likely to happen. And surely the price will go down since people won't be able to use btc for some time + some will lose faith in bitcoin after it. As eth is second best now, it is sort of likely to grow in price. However, we have to take into account that eth may also suffer from hard fork. SO perhaps people won't demand the coin which can experience the same problem as bitcoin will (I hope it won't). So, maybe they'll decide to put money in Dash as with it only 'big users' can decide which blockchain is true.

[andron8383]

If Bitcoin will have hard fork in the future, the price will 100% plummet, so Ethereum will go the the moon, its market cap may be higher than BTC's. My ATH for ETH is 0.1-0.2 btc.

Yes, I've been reading about hard fork and, unfortunately, it is very likely to happen. And surely the price will go down since people won't be able to use btc for some time + some will lose faith in bitcoin after it. As eth is second best now, it is sort of likely to grow in price. However, we have to take into account that eth may also suffer from hard fork. SO perhaps people won't demand the coin which can experience the same problem as bitcoin will (I hope it won't). So, maybe they'll decide to put money in Dash as with it only 'big users' can decide which blockchain is true.

From longer time frame ETH will be more fucked than DASH. ut in long run both coins have less potential than BTC beacouse problems that have BTC will migrate to those coins.
They can increase blocksize/frequency of updating blocks but anyway it couse rise of fees and problems. There is not solution if you want keep blockchain you have to store data somewhere and other party have to download it. Dash have mixing that at some point will be VERY expensive .... ETH have daps that will be allso very expensive
People thin that if they migrate to ETH DASH problems will magically vanish but in reality you can not expand to Visa lvl without being centralized.
If you forget about blockchain then you can do it and be even bigger. Butblockchain have its limits hardware network software.

Eth going to high will kill their DAPs at some point ETH blockchain have to grow proportional to ETH DAPs number.
Eth have defaut fee today like : 0.001 ETH... so 50$ 0,05$ what will hapen when ETH goes to BTC market cap ?
fee will go to 0.2$... and what will happen to DAPs wanting send dividends ? feee will RISE and cost of using ETH will rise...
And we are in same loop as BTC. High price of BTC couse big fee price but with ETH is worse...
Last time i have been wandering about how much will cost sending dividends to accounts and and i looks like it is proportional to fee...
So if you wanted send dividend to 2000 accounts it have costed you 50 ETH before so cost of running business is rinsing and will rise.
Do you think that ETH will solve it by cutting fee by hard reducing it to 0.0001 ? but it will be traded for 10x bigger blockchain.
There is not magic way to go around if you want DAPs running on blockchain  cost are rinsing.

People can hype ETH but sooner or later it will hit rock as BTC has hitted rock since BTC is some kind store of value and people can eat high fees
while ETH is for DAPs and high fees will kills its utility. Like always market will woke up too late.

[JeffBrad12]

With uncertainty about the coming Bitcoin Fork, I think Ether's rise will last until everything is sorted out. But the question is: how high will it go, and where will it settle back down to afterwords?

I'm thinking it may rise to around $75, and sink back down to a steady  $20.

Thoughts?

According to the latest result of the block voting and it looks like there will no a winner in the future. The uncertainty of the miners to give his vote to the right proposal. Ether will keep his bullish trend, the uncertainty thing by the bitcoin hardfork or I'd like to call it a rumor. This will push the price of the ether. But it will never over $70 at this time. Looks like the bitcoin market is fully pumped and dump.

[muddafudda]

Experts predict that if the ETF passes Bitcoin it will rise like a balloon, with big investments already in the first week, others believe that the ETF will bring legitimacy to the currency that is still very discriminated in the financial means. Even with the wave of optimism, some people more familiar with the form of operation of the SEC believe that this will be an event that will hardly come true.
However, the interesting development that escaped the attention of many people is that the criptomoeda that has to win along with Bitcoin, in the case of the approval of the ETF, is the ETC.

[Supercrypt]

With uncertainty about the coming Bitcoin Fork, I think Ether's rise will last until everything is sorted out. But the question is: how high will it go, and where will it settle back down to afterwords?

I'm thinking it may rise to around $75, and sink back down to a steady  $20.

Thoughts?

I think the price of bitcoin is not related to price of ethereum in the sense that people would run away from uncertainty of bitcoin back to eth. I think there are many coins people are willing to keep their coins not just eth.

For example, if you want to use cryptocurrency there is a high change the first coins you get will be btc and you will keep using but when it comes down to learning what altcoins are there are many options. The rise of the altcoin World in the past 2 months can be because of the bitcoin issues but eth showed that they are also growing in community instead of other coins who are just used for pump and dump. I think eth is here to stay and won’t go much lower.

[mining1]

@criminologyprof, in two weeks we will see eth at minimum 70$ and maximum maybe 110$ with the implementation of raiden. Assuming everything is the same in two weeks. In less than 3 months, with the ugprade to metropolis ( via hardfork ) eth will rise anywhere between 20-50$ more. These two upgrades, raiden and metro, are more important than every development that happened in the public cryptocurrency scene in the past 8 years.