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March 27, 2017, 02:06:28 PM
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Hello users.
Does anyone know any method to send BTC to users with less fees.
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Cause Blockchain and many other major wallets are going crazy on the fees...

I wonder how Direct faucets give BTC with very much or less fees.
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I would like to know how they do it.
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March 27, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
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Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.

I watch https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ and until very recently there were about 1500 0-fee transactions per day going through.  Now it looks like there are none in the memory pool and a declining number going through.  Maybe there's another site reporting differently?
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March 27, 2017, 02:17:49 PM
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Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.

I watch https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ and until very recently there were about 1500 0-fee transactions per day going through.  Now it looks like there are none in the memory pool and a declining number going through.  Maybe there's another site reporting differently?

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Oh i see.
thank you for sharing bro.
I will do a deep research on it.
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March 27, 2017, 02:20:25 PM
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Hello users.
Does anyone know any method to send BTC to users with less fees.
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Cause Blockchain and many other major wallets are going crazy on the fees...

I wonder how Direct faucets give BTC with very much or less fees.
.
I would like to know how they do it.
Thanks!


Well I use to use coinbase alot because of their feeless transactions, seems like recently they implemented fees too like other services, well not bashing them for years of feeless txes though. Transaction without fees means long wait times or miners would not want to waste the effort for no return.You would be hardpressed to find a feeless transaction service

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March 27, 2017, 02:32:20 PM
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Does anyone know any method to send BTC to users with less fees.

Use a wallet that lets you set your own fees (such as Bitcoin Core). However, be aware that if you don't pay a high enough fee, it may take a VERY long time for your transaction to confirm (days, weeks, months, or even years).

Cause Blockchain and many other major wallets are going crazy on the fees...

Those wallets are designed to make the fee decision for the user to protect them from doing something stupid.

I wonder how Direct faucets give BTC with very much or less fees.

I would like to know how they do it.

Most pay the high fee.  However, they send to hundreds (or thousands) of users in a single transaction.  Therefore, the fee per user is low even though the fee per transaction is high.
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March 27, 2017, 02:34:15 PM
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Hello users.
Does anyone know any method to send BTC to users with less fees.
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Cause Blockchain and many other major wallets are going crazy on the fees...

I wonder how Direct faucets give BTC with very much or less fees.
.
I would like to know how they do it.
Thanks!


Well I use to use coinbase alot because of their feeless transactions, seems like recently they implemented fees too like other services, well not bashing them for years of feeless txes though. Transaction without fees means long wait times or miners would not want to waste the effort for no return.You would be hardpressed to find a feeless transaction service
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I am not saying without nay fees but with less fees,
i means, few thousand satoshi instead of freaking 1$ fees,
Yesterday i was charged 180,000satoshi for a 8$ transaction.
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March 27, 2017, 02:43:42 PM
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Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.
On my knowledge the mempool times out earlier than 11 days. Assuming you needed to restart your wallet using zapwallettxes=1 and sending same amount again?

But @OP "yes" you can send without any fees. It's just a ballot if those reach their destination, at all. Just adding 1 Satoshi to each byte works marvels.

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March 27, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
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Why would you want to send btc without paying transaction fee that's not acceptable, there is no fee things here anymore.

Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.

I watch https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ and until very recently there were about 1500 0-fee transactions per day going through.  Now it looks like there are none in the memory pool and a declining number going through.  Maybe there's another site reporting differently?

11 days seem forever, i would worry if it did go somewhere else if i were you. Its possible to somehow speed up the process like requesting the miners to prioritize your tx, I can't remember how to do it but I've read it here int he forum though. But I'd rather pay.

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March 27, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
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I think, theoretically, at least for now, no. But, one of my friends said to me that he did it with zero fee and transaction got confirmed. Then I asked him how, he could not explain. Probably lied to me. If you don't want to get angry, do not try to send Bitcoin with zero fee.
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March 27, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
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I think, theoretically, at least for now, no. But, one of my friends said to me that he did it with zero fee and transaction got confirmed. Then I asked him how, he could not explain. Probably lied to me. If you don't want to get angry, do not try to send Bitcoin with zero fee.
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Less fees would be good instead of 1$ fees on a 8$ transaction.
There has to be some way.
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Look at dogecoin, there charges only one coin that is 0.00024$ per transaction.
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March 27, 2017, 02:56:00 PM
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If you simply want to transfer value from one person to the next, you can use third party services that use off-chain transactions for example

Xapo... it is best suited if you want to do multiple tx without a fee and then 1 tx to get it onto the Blockchain. The last tx is a normal tx, and you

have to pay the miners fee when that is done. Hope that is helpful.  Grin {Both parties obviously have to signup to Xapo for this to work} 

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March 27, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
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The answer is simply yes. User would only take some fees if they wanted that their transaction would be the main priority of miners because of course for some reasons like rushing
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March 27, 2017, 03:21:45 PM
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Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.
On my knowledge the mempool times out earlier than 11 days. Assuming you needed to restart your wallet using zapwallettxes=1 and sending same amount again?

But @OP "yes" you can send without any fees. It's just a ballot if those reach their destination, at all. Just adding 1 Satoshi to each byte works marvels.
I did not have to zap and resend.  The original transaction went through without any help.  I was comfortable with 11 days; many/most people might not be.
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March 27, 2017, 03:29:08 PM
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Doing such would be stupidity as blockchain asks for higher fee or recommended ones because that helps you get your transaction set into the block more quickly, 0 fee transactions need a lot more time too even more than the previous guy's comment, because doing it at lower fee nowadays will end up in waiting period to be increased, that's why these people are supporting Bitcoin Unlimited.
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March 27, 2017, 04:22:15 PM
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virtually every transaction with a number of small fee that will accelerate the block carrying your transactions for the small fee that every transaction that byte is small, while the fee greater then the number of bytes it would be great as well so that it will slow down transactions for each of tract can not transport a lot of transactions , so if it happens to be a lot of number of transactions un confirmed.
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March 27, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
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Hello users.
Does anyone know any method to send BTC to users with less fees.
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Cause Blockchain and many other major wallets are going crazy on the fees...

I wonder how Direct faucets give BTC with very much or less fees.
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I would like to know how they do it.
Thanks!


yes you can you can choose the fee, so you can set zero, but will take many hours if not days for confirmation, you can use an accelerator to make it faster, but i'm not sure if with zero fee the accelerator will work

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March 27, 2017, 04:37:44 PM
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Dont go for transaction less bitcoin transfer .as it may take a long time and it can happen that it cant never be confirmed.
Well it is always advisable to have minimum transaction fees to make it confirmed as soon as possible.
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March 27, 2017, 04:47:44 PM
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I think, theoretically, at least for now, no. But, one of my friends said to me that he did it with zero fee and transaction got confirmed. Then I asked him how, he could not explain. Probably lied to me. If you don't want to get angry, do not try to send Bitcoin with zero fee.

zero fee transactions are still transactions, and the reason for them not being confirmed is that either miners ignore them or because there are better transactions (meaning more profitable for them because they have more fee) so obviously miners choose those transactions over a 0 fee one. (it is like a competition)

but when there are no more transactions to fill a block (meaning the memory pool being nearly empty) the zero fees are also included in a block (miners pick them up too)

so your friend may not have lied to you since for the past week mempool have been nearly empty.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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March 27, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
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Currently there are not really many options. Fees are becoming a must. However most people I am trading with are telling me xapo has no fees as of now. Secondly as you might know coinbase.com has also introduced fees. But if the other party also uses a coinbase.com ac then no fees for both the parties that's the only alternative this days. Otherwise all need to pay fees and that is really sad we need to figure all this things out.
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March 27, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
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i think the answer is yes we can but i don't know when the time that bitcoin will arrived into destination wallet and how long to gets confirmed from the network. i am not trying to send without any fees, because i am sure that it will need more days before it gets confirmed and it will makes boring to just waiting too long.

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