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March 27, 2017, 03:00:28 PM
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IMPORTANT: I am NOT providing collateral. The reason for this is that i need the funds to increase my returns through this method, so if i were to provide 1.2 BTC in collateral to lend 1 BTC then it would be pointless for me since i'd just have 0.2 BTC less to accumulate gains through.

Hello fellow bitcointalkers, i have recently come across a method to make money online that involves sportsbetting. It is, however, as close to risk-free as you can get in this world and for the last 2 weeks i have been extensively testing the method with my own funds.

Unfortunately, i am a student in Denmark at the moment, and my personal finances are limited.

For this reason, i cannot maximize my returns using this method. Therefore, i contacted two IRL friends and explained my method. Both of them agreed to "invest" in my adventure and as it is now, we split profits 60/20/20.

The total amount invested between us is currently approx. 1250 USD.

The gains increased substantially but still the invested amount is not enough to utilize the method to its fullest.

My statistics for the last week is an average gain of 9.87% per day of the amounts i manage to "invest".

The more money that is invested, the more opportunities i can ride on and the more i can utilize the bigger percental gains.

I purposely was vague with details regarding this method, but if your interest is peaked then PM me.

To sum it all up:

I have a working method to make money online, but its limited due to my low capital. If interested in helping me increase this capital i can offer generous rates, or a permanent stake in our enterprise.

For more information please send me a PM, i kindly ask that you PM only if you are considering my offer. If i feel like you are just a curious mind with no intentions of participating then i might use my god-given freedom to choose not to answer.

If any doubt should be present, i clarify:

I am looking to lend/raise Bitcoin in a moderate/large quantity preferably, from one or more lenders.

I offer generous return rates, or a permanent stake. If you choose a permanent stake then your original investment will remain yours, but an appropriate percentage of future gains will be allotted to you.


Thanks for reading, and do not hesitate to ask questions if you are interested.

Regards,
tobi4255

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March 27, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
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I'm tempted to leave you negative trust because you claim the profits are "guaranteed".   Undecided

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March 27, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
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I'm tempted to leave you negative trust because you claim the profits are "guaranteed".   Undecided
But... they are guaranteed  Huh

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I am honored to have drawn the attention of Vod himself. You are very famous on the internet Sir.

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March 27, 2017, 07:53:32 PM
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IMPORTANT: I am NOT providing collateral. The reason for this is that i need the funds to increase my returns through this method, so if i were to provide 1.2 BTC in collateral to lend 1 BTC then it would be pointless for me since i'd just have 0.2 BTC less to accumulate gains through.

Hello fellow bitcointalkers, i have recently come across a method to make money online that involves sportsbetting. It is, however, as close to risk-free as you can get in this world and for the last 2 weeks i have been extensively testing the method with my own funds.

Unfortunately, i am a student in Denmark at the moment, and my personal finances are limited.

For this reason, i cannot maximize my returns using this method. Therefore, i contacted two IRL friends and explained my method. Both of them agreed to "invest" in my adventure and as it is now, we split profits 60/20/20.

The total amount invested between us is currently approx. 1250 USD.

The gains increased substantially but still the invested amount is not enough to utilize the method to its fullest.

My statistics for the last week is an average gain of 9.87% per day of the amounts i manage to "invest".

The more money that is invested, the more opportunities i can ride on and the more i can utilize the bigger percental gains.

I purposely was vague with details regarding this method, but if your interest is peaked then PM me.

To sum it all up:

I have a working method to make money online, but its limited due to my low capital. If interested in helping me increase this capital i can offer generous rates, or a permanent stake in our enterprise.

For more information please send me a PM, i kindly ask that you PM only if you are considering my offer. If i feel like you are just a curious mind with no intentions of participating then i might use my god-given freedom to choose not to answer.

If any doubt should be present, i clarify:

I am looking to lend/raise Bitcoin in a moderate/large quantity preferably, from one or more lenders.

I offer generous return rates, or a permanent stake. If you choose a permanent stake then your original investment will remain yours, but an appropriate percentage of future gains will be allotted to you.


Thanks for reading, and do not hesitate to ask questions if you are interested.

Regards,
tobi4255

If you are not providing collateral and youre not trusted, how do you expect someone to believe you will repay, especially a loan that is "long term"? What if nothing pays off, then what? You stated your "personal finances are limited" so that means if you lose money, you have nothing to repay with, then you run off, and the lenders will be out of money. Plus, you had a huge ~6 months gap, so that does also raise red flags about if you are the original account owner.

Next, if you have that much in bitcoins, can you provide a signed message with the wallet that have ~$1250 in bitcoins?
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March 27, 2017, 09:26:54 PM
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If you are not providing collateral and youre not trusted, how do you expect someone to believe you will repay, especially a loan that is "long term"? What if nothing pays off, then what? You stated your "personal finances are limited" so that means if you lose money, you have nothing to repay with, then you run off, and the lenders will be out of money. Plus, you had a huge ~6 months gap, so that does also raise red flags about if you are the original account owner.

Next, if you have that much in bitcoins, can you provide a signed message with the wallet that have ~$1250 in bitcoins?

I can not provide a signed message of a Bitcoin wallet that holds ~1250 USD because i do not hold that much in BTC.

There is no risk that I will lose money, so i wont be in a situation where i "have nothing to repay with" since i'd always have access to the intial loan/investment.

I guess it will be hard to attract any interest in this trustless environment that is btctalk in 2017 Smiley

Let me elaborate further:

Current funds in my "scheme": ~ 1250 USD

These funds are allocated in 8 different bookmakers where i do my best to keep equity between them.

Here they are used to place arbitrage bets, i.e if outcome A can be wagered on Bookie #0 at odds 2.05, and outcome B can be wagered on Bookie #1 at odds 2.05 also, then by placing 100 USD on both outcomes across Bookie #0 and Bookie #1 one will stand to profit 5 USD no matter the outcome. Its just a question of which bookie the funds will end in.

So, I guess there is a slight chance that BTC rates fluctuating will chomp off a few % of the profits but the gains should be plentiful to accomodate for this 90% of the time.

Several bookies that i use allows for BTC deposits/withdrawals so that is why I feel comfortable i can payout in BTC without incurring notable losses in the process.

Of course, anyone could do this but its time consuming and at times, very boring. I have made several python scripts to ease the processes in arbitrage betting, and am among few arbitrage bettors to utilize BTC bookies.

Any more details can be elaborated through PM's.

No, i am not selling my scripts, i am offering a partnership for long-term.

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March 28, 2017, 12:42:29 AM
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There is no risk that I will lose money, so i wont be in a situation where i "have nothing to repay with" since i'd always have access to the intial loan/investment.

If there is no risk, why aren't you the richest man in the world?

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March 28, 2017, 08:20:46 AM
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So, I guess there is a slight chance that BTC rates fluctuating will chomp off a few % of the profits but the gains should be plentiful to accomodate for this 90% of the time.

BTC fluctuations have been huge in the past year or so. From 450$ per BTC to 1300 to 900.

Your betting strategy isn't anything new and there's always a possibility that one of the bookies makes your bet invalid. To bet 200$ in order to win 5$ isn't gonna win you any style points either.

If there are some negative news regarding BTC, the loss will be significant and you'll need to find a way to repay your debt.
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March 28, 2017, 09:41:38 AM
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@OP:

I have a magic method of making money on the internet. There are no risks involved. The only thing is that I need more money for the method to work. I will give no collateral.

Will you lend me your 1250 USD?


Now you see how absolutely incredible stupid you sound?

Sometimes I wonder where is this fantasy world that all this people are coming from...



@Vod: I agree with the negative trust.
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March 28, 2017, 10:44:13 AM
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@OP:

I have a magic method of making money on the internet. There are no risks involved. The only thing is that I need more money for the method to work. I will give no collateral.

Will you lend me your 1250 USD?


Now you see how absolutely incredible stupid you sound?

Sometimes I wonder where is this fantasy world that all this people are coming from...



@Vod: I agree with the negative trust.
How about you pull out 1250 USD from your couch and then google "arbitrage betting" and give it a whirl urself.

I'd bet all my 1250 USD that none of these h8ers in my thread so far took their time to actually read up on the method.

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As i say, my capital is too small, I do aim for that exact title though Grin

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March 28, 2017, 10:46:51 AM
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So, I guess there is a slight chance that BTC rates fluctuating will chomp off a few % of the profits but the gains should be plentiful to accomodate for this 90% of the time.

BTC fluctuations have been huge in the past year or so. From 450$ per BTC to 1300 to 900.

Your betting strategy isn't anything new and there's always a possibility that one of the bookies makes your bet invalid. To bet 200$ in order to win 5$ isn't gonna win you any style points either.

If there are some negative news regarding BTC, the loss will be significant and you'll need to find a way to repay your debt.

As i also said, several bookies allows for deposits/withdrawals through BTC, so if you invest your 100 bitcoins into me while the BTC price is 1100 USD each, and then it drops to 700 USD before i make a withdrawal, the bookie will just let me withdraw a lot more bitcoins since they are worth less.

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March 28, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
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@OP:

I have a magic method of making money on the internet. There are no risks involved. The only thing is that I need more money for the method to work. I will give no collateral.

Will you lend me your 1250 USD?


Now you see how absolutely incredible stupid you sound?

Sometimes I wonder where is this fantasy world that all this people are coming from...



@Vod: I agree with the negative trust.

Go google arbitrage betting and make some decent arguments why it is such a hoax? I have done more than 75+ succesful arbitrage trades netting up a profit of 123.4 % of my stakes over the last 2 months time.

If you cant be bothered to do a google search before acting out your ignorance then i am sorry for you.

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March 28, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
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@OP:

I have a magic method of making money on the internet. There are no risks involved. The only thing is that I need more money for the method to work. I will give no collateral.

Will you lend me your 1250 USD?


Now you see how absolutely incredible stupid you sound?

Sometimes I wonder where is this fantasy world that all this people are coming from...



@Vod: I agree with the negative trust.

Go google arbitrage betting and make some decent arguments why it is such a hoax? I have done more than 75+ succesful arbitrage trades netting up a profit of 123.4 % of my stakes over the last 2 months time.

If you cant be bothered to do a google search before acting out your ignorance then i am sorry for you.


I don't have to go anywere, it's you that have to come back to the real world.

If your method is so safe and you really belive in it then why don't you go to a bank and ask for the money? It's no different in here.

Anyway, don't boter to answer, we have seen it over and over again. And, by the way, you are the ignorant one: do a "arbitrage" search in here, not on google and see how many thousands like you have passed by on this forum, everyone of them stating that they have found The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs...
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