Who likes pod miners?

[jekecoin]

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed by some of the sellers online charging 400% markups. I've talked to my friend Laura, beneficiary of the 2Pac seconds and hacked S7 sales, about doing direct sales on commission. She'd be handling Terminus sales to individuals once those are launched, plus I'd be setting aside a certain number of 2Pacs every week for small orders without crazy markup. Works out for everyone because y'all won't have to pay embarassingly high prices, she gets some extra income and I can keep focusing on making stuff instead of communicating with customers all day (the primary reason small sales were closed).

I don't have any good Terminus pictures handy but I definitely will post some before/when sales open.

I'm Interested in the Pods to Spain

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[minerbobbert]

Looking at prices online, most miners are ridiculously overpriced - people are selling miners which operate at a daily loss (I suspect to people who can't math well and don't understand mining). Old block erupters, for example, sell at $50 a piece and earn less than $1 per year. It's nuts.

Decent deals I've found are old S1s for around $100, things like that. A realistic price I've found that tends to balance this crazy demand with a decent roi is a machine that ends up costing about $1 per 2/GH/sec. ie, a $100 GH machine is about $50.

Maybe you could price it something like that?

[jekecoin]

Looking at prices online, most miners are ridiculously overpriced - people are selling miners which operate at a daily loss (I suspect to people who can't math well and don't understand mining). Old block erupters, for example, sell at $50 a piece and earn less than $1 per year. It's nuts.

Decent deals I've found are old S1s for around $100, things like that. A realistic price I've found that tends to balance this crazy demand with a decent roi is a machine that ends up costing about $1 per 2/GH/sec. ie, a $100 GH machine is about $50.

Maybe you could price it something like that?

One with brain, thanks, I see the world is soo crazy this days, I see the 2 pack at 200€, I think it's too high for a 2 months product that cost arround 60$

[gvb]

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed by some of the sellers online charging 400% markups. I've talked to my friend Laura, beneficiary of the 2Pac seconds and hacked S7 sales, about doing direct sales on commission.

That's a great idea and the boring stuff (paperwork, p&p) can be passed on to someone driven enough to get some commision.

Thanks.

[sidehack]

a 100GH machine is about $50.

Maybe you could price it something like that?

Consider that this guy will put up 2/3 the hashrate of an S1 with 1/6 the power cost. Also consider 100GH worth of chips aren't free, especially since anything ASIC now costs 2-4 times what it did a few months ago. I was hoping for a bulk price around $50 on these but now it'll come in more like $100. That's bulk price, not single complete kit price.

Yes, most miners are currently way the heck overpriced. If 2Pacs sell on eBay for $150, this thing would ask $250-300 and that's, to put it frankly, criminal.

If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Maybe wait until later in the year when I hope to have newer better things available.

[wavelengthsf]

Hopefully sales of this are great, so we can get the 700 GH bitfury version in the future!

[Spill]

Hopefully sales of this are great, so we can get the 700 GH bitfury version in the future!

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I'll buy one also, my 2 pac is now losing to my gpu, cpu and burst HDD miner on my computer.  I'm more interested in the bitfury Pods,   I'm hoping you're Paypal is still working?

[DKirk]

I'll take at least one maybe two at whatever you feel is reasonable. I'm always willing to support an independent developer.

[minerbobbert]

a 100GH machine is about $50.

Maybe you could price it something like that?

Consider that this guy will put up 2/3 the hashrate of an S1 with 1/6 the power cost. Also consider 100GH worth of chips aren't free, especially since anything ASIC now costs 2-4 times what it did a few months ago. I was hoping for a bulk price around $50 on these but now it'll come in more like $100. That's bulk price, not single complete kit price.

Yes, most miners are currently way the heck overpriced. If 2Pacs sell on eBay for $150, this thing would ask $250-300 and that's, to put it frankly, criminal.

If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Maybe wait until later in the year when I hope to have newer better things available.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that should be the price point - more so the principle of pegging the price to what the stock speed is - whether it's $0.50, $1, $2 or $100 per ghash. Efficiency certainly counts.

[sidehack]

You also have to consider non-ASIC costs. 2Pacs are two chips, but also a high-current regulator and USB IO and heatsink and PCB. The Terminus is 8 chips and also a high-current regulator and USB IO and heatsink and PCB. Materials and labor for a 2Pac are higher per unit hash than the Terminus, so a bare Terminus might sell for 2.5 times a 2Pac's price though it has 4 times the hashing chips and about 4 times the hashrate. As the contents of a miner become proportionally more ASIC and less support hardware the price per hash will drop because it's more heavily dependent on the cost of ASICs themselves. However, the price per chip for 16nm versus 28nm probably isn't proportionally higher than the difference in hashrate per chip, so as efficiency increases the price per hash should also drop - at least the actual production cost per hash would drop, which for me means the selling price per hash would drop because I'm not a profit-hungry scammer.

I generally don't consider fixing the price against stock speed, because for anything I build the "stock speed" is mostly just a suggestion and you can set it wherever you want. I'll never build a miner without adjustable clocking and core voltage. What I look more at for pricing is the actual production cost with a reasonable (certainly less than 100%) profit margin.

[hercthx]

Dude I would like to buy 4 at whatever price you feel is fair! You put so much hard work into these, and we are all ready to support ya!

[anorganix]

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I'm Interested in the Pods to Spain

Yup, me too.
I'm assuming MacEntyre (bitshopper.de) will sell them in the EU like it was with the 2Pacs?

[zyzzyva]

I'm in for at least 1 or 2, depending on the price. I'm a longtime fan of your miners. 

[ricknamer]

Looking forward to seeing these!

[aballen]

yeah, I wand a few of these as well.

Not getting on a high horse here, but do you thing an 8 chip pod miner will ROI in less than a year?

[TheNerdyType]

Depending on the pricepoint and finances when orders are taken, I'm in for at least one, and maybe up to four.

My 2pacs are chomping away. Even though they're seconds, they're still firsts in my mind. Haha.

[aballen]

@ $60 I'm down for 4.

forgive my ignorance here guys but will this mine _any_  sha256 coin or just BTC?

[DeeMiner]

Would love to throw ~$300 at some of these !

[edrich]

@ $60 I'm down for 4.

forgive my ignorance here guys but will this mine _any_  sha256 coin or just BTC?

It will be able to mine all coins using the SHA-256 algo

[spazzdla]

I don't think you making 300% on these is criminal sidehack...  IMO miners are hard to come by now, you've put a lot of effort in and a 300% mark up is more  than fair.