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April 04, 2017, 01:26:42 PM
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May be enough, but as you can see from the photo, the Prius hybrid is completely safe.



Prius HEV burst into flames

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/12/watch-toyota-prius-bursts-into-flames-on-euston-road-london/

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April 04, 2017, 01:36:49 PM
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May be enough, but as you can see from the photo, the Prius hybrid is completely safe.



Prius HEV burst into flames

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/12/watch-toyota-prius-bursts-into-flames-on-euston-road-london/
In the materials does it say that this fire occurred due to the fact that this car is a hybrid. Maybe it's the consequences of arson? As stated in the posts above the Prius battery is in the cabin and he clearly is not the cause of the fire.
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April 04, 2017, 01:41:05 PM
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clearly is not the cause of the fire.

HEV high voltage caves are connected to battery or to ass of driver?

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April 04, 2017, 01:43:16 PM
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1. Electricity can be produced without coal and oil

2. we just need batteries that can store them without much energy loss.

1. WOW. Really?
What they are waiting?
Explain, where is the profit if any of wind mill is about $ 3-4 million?

In 2015, the United States generated about 4 trillion kilowatthours of electricity.1  
About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2015:1

Coal = 33%
Natural gas = 33%

Nuclear = 20%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.6%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.6%
Wind = 4.7%

Petroleum = 1%
Other gases = <1%

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3


2. Here is about the explosive nature of Li Ion batteries.

1. That does not change the fact the electricity can be produced without burning fossil fuel. My country generate about 25% of its electricity from renewable energy. With more dams planned to be built, that amount can increase. There is continuous research on the field of renewable so we can expect they can increase the amount energy captured.

2. So, what would you suggest? We'd eventually have to transition to electric to wean ourselves of oil. I doubt the Arabs and Russians would be happy though.

BTW this would be my last reply on this thread, don't bother quoting me. Enjoy the attention.
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April 04, 2017, 01:47:55 PM
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I agree with you. Russian and Arab propaganda anyone not valid. They are to blame. Raising the price of oil, they pushed the world to search for alternative sources of energy and this process does not stop.
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April 04, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
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Wow if that is the reality for electric cars then it is much better to not purchase it now since there are major flaws that can endanger our lives. But if in case the company can find ways to upgrade the car and finding solutions to solve the major issues such as burning then probably that is the time that I will buy an electric car.
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April 04, 2017, 02:12:55 PM
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Wow if that is the reality for electric cars then it is much better to not purchase it now since there are major flaws that can endanger our lives. But if in case the company can find ways to upgrade the car and finding solutions to solve the major issues such as burning then probably that is the time that I will buy an electric car.
These pictures on the Internet a lot. Where it is clear that the cause of the fire was an electric car? In each case, you need investigation. I don't believe in this kind of PR. I think this is a paid counter-advertising.
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April 04, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
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The batteries work by moving lithium particles between a negative and positive electrode to charge and discharge. To allow those particles to move easily, they're suspended in pressurized cells inside the batteries filled with volatile and flammable chemicals.

The movement of the particles causes heat as the battery is charged and discharged. If the battery was badly designed or improperly used or installed, that heat can ignite the chemicals, causing flames or explosions.
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In 2013 fires in two 787 Dreamliner jets caused by a short circuit in lithium ion batteries led Boeing to redesign the plane so that each battery was housed inside an insulated, vented and fireproof steel box.
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http://www.afr.com/technology/why-lithiumion-batteries-catch-fire-from-samsungs-to-teslas-and-hoverboards-20160904-gr8nb1#ixzz4dI0eKJbO












Chevrolet Volt burned in Minsk city





2016 burned EV in Sankt Petersburg






Audi EV burned at charging in Estonia

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April 04, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
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If in Estonia burned one car that is the problem? Why don't you think that the problem is in the charger? I'm sure that your pics will not stop the growing demand for electric vehicles.
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April 04, 2017, 05:30:03 PM
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Belief that not hiding cases of HEV and EVs fires under the bed is a "Putin Propaganda" make me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOav1NLfN3U
Home Fire caused by EV charger.






Yorkshire Tesla Model S 70 burned

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April 04, 2017, 06:18:39 PM
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I have 2 years of Toyota Prius hybrid. No problem at all with it. I don't know how much burned in hybrids or electric cars, but I really like my Prius. My next car will also be electric. I want to buy a Tesla.
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April 04, 2017, 06:36:25 PM
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No problem at all with it.

How do You imagine to detect problems at nude eye?
Try to use some FLIR.



Prius battery pack

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April 04, 2017, 06:47:55 PM
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I have 2 years of Toyota Prius hybrid. No problem at all with it. I don't know how much burned in hybrids or electric cars, but I really like my Prius. My next car will also be electric. I want to buy a Tesla.
Maybe this is an ordered article of oil nuggets to carry out anti-PR of electric cars. Statistics of problems with these cars is very low, so you should not be afraid of them.
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April 04, 2017, 06:58:30 PM
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Statistics of problems

LOL
The problem is to have such car, this is a cause of fire, Tesla experts detect it.




Burned HEV in Berlin

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 One of the greatest dangers posed by electric vehicles at present is arguably not the technologies that constitute them and the possible adverse consequences of their use, but uncertainty regarding how to handle them. The technology is relatively new, and differs significantly from conventional fuels. This may lead to uncertainty during a rescue operation, and thus a greater degree of risk.
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http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2017/03/alt-fuels-road-tunnels-garages-risk.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QCa196NQIM
Chevy Volt burning in Minsk city

The car caught fire in the parking lot.

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April 07, 2017, 02:54:16 PM
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April 22, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIM3JKa24dY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztOSChyNtVM

"Model X" burning in Guangzhou

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Complaint Number: 10954963
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1E25FF106184
Your Vehicle's Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2015
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension, Unknown or Other
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the salvage yard. https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=23943967&RowNumber=20&loadRecent=True3 The attached photograph shows that the top ball joint on the front RH wheel has separated causing gouging of the tire tread. The wheel is displaced towards the rear of the wheel well which is most likely the cause of the fire. The fire has been hot enough to melt metal so it is almost certain that the Lithium batteries were the source of the fire. Please investigate the problems with Tesla suspensions and also the issue of battery fires. Lithium battery fires burn burn extremely hot, emit toxic fumes, and are difficult to extinguish. I request that you investigate the circumstances of this incident. I am not the owner, just a very concerned citizen. Date of incident is an approximation.
Files you uploaded.
2015tesla-fire1.jpg
2015tesla-fire2.jpg
When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? Yes
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 5000





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Complaint Number: 10980335
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1CG6DFP07843
Your Vehicle's Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is another burned out Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=24762753&RowNumber=10&loadRecent=True The suspension has collapsed on the LH side and the front wheel is jammed into the battery. The airbags have not deployed. The car does not appear to have been in a collision. The wheel jamming into the battery is the most likely cause of the fire. If the battery is hot from hard driving or from recent charging then any loss of coolant is likely to cause a fire. Please conduct a test to see whether such a simple loss of coolant can cause a fire in those circumstances. The rate of fires in Teslas is alarming and it is extremely hard to suppress a Lithium battery fire. Thank you. Concerned citizen etc.
Files you uploaded.
toast2013.jpg
toast2013airbag.jpg
When did this happen? 01/31/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? Yes
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 10000
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Complaint Number: 10980333
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1H27FFP77934
Your Vehicle's Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2015
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a burned out Tesla in the junkyard https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=24822571&RowNumber=3&loadRecent=True The front LH wheel is jammed back into the battery. The tread on the tire is worn away which indicates that the wheel was jammed back against the battery while the car was still rolling forward. It is highly probable that suspension failure was the cause of the fire. Despite assurances to the contrary fires are still happening all too frequently in the Tesla. A recent crash in China resulted in the Tesla exploding in flames and the back seat passengers only narrowly escaped incineration.: https://electrek.co/2017/04/23/tesla-model-x-fire-crash-falcon-wing-doors-stuck/ I am filing these reports in the public interest. Owners believe the Tesla is the safest car in the world. Judging by the hundreds of Teslas that have been involved in serious accidents this appears to be a myth. Please investigate.
Files you uploaded.
toasted2015suspension.jpg
When did this happen? 02/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? Yes
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 5000








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