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March 29, 2017, 10:22:39 AM |
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Hello, Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans. I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans. Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested? Thanks in advance guys ! I even could pay for each such casino link ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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March 29, 2017, 10:42:36 AM |
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There are few casinos that accept deposit with zero confirmation but You will not find any casino that will allow you to make any withdrawal before your deposit get confirmed. Satoshimines is one example which will add you deposit to your account without any confirmation but you have to wait to make withdrawal.
Also haven't heard about them asking for any ID documents, they also don't have any bonus so there is no any roll-over/wagering requirement.
Duckdice is also another one that accept deposit upto 0.01BTC without any network confirmation.
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March 29, 2017, 10:43:21 AM |
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Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?
In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.
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March 29, 2017, 10:58:58 AM |
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In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.
Are you referring to the scam where a user deposits into a zero confirmation casino... immediately gambles on a BIG payout bet... if they win, they just let everything confirm and claim their winnings, but if they lose they immediately execute an RBF transaction to attempt to recover their funds? I concur... you are just asking for someone to try and game the system and cause all sorts of chaos
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March 29, 2017, 11:03:27 AM |
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In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.
Are you referring to the scam where a user deposits into a zero confirmation casino... immediately gambles on a BIG payout bet... if they win, they just let everything confirm and claim their winnings, but if they lose they immediately execute an RBF transaction to attempt to recover their funds? I concur... you are just asking for someone to try and game the system and cause all sorts of chaos this is not possible, the casino has to be really stupid to allow that to happen. first of all those places that accept 0 confirmation transactions don't allow you to withdraw, so even if you win you have to wait for the first one to confirm and if you lose and double spend you will surely be banned (account and IP). in the end casino doesn't lose anything, you just tried their platform! also there are some other criterias the tx has to meet. you can easily check to see if it is signalling RBF, if it has any unconfirmed input, or if it has very low fees, etc in other words you do a risk assessment and then let the user play. and i should also add that RBF is not double spend, you can't change the new output in the tx, you have to have the same output otherwise it is double spend and nodes will reject it.
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March 29, 2017, 11:35:58 AM Last edit: March 29, 2017, 12:35:32 PM by Japinat |
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If you are referring for the casino's bonuses then you cannot do anything about it, they have there rules and you need to follow in order to be eligible. I'm pretty sure that most casinos does not require you to submit your documents because in any way they still preserve the anonymity in gambling which attracts more gamblers.
In the past I won a bonus and it requires me to do the rollover and I completed it and ended with a profit, but after they require me to submit an id and any receipt for address verification, I complied all of the requirement so I successfully claim my reward.
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dossantosleite (OP)
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March 29, 2017, 11:48:27 AM |
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There are few casinos that accept deposit with zero confirmation but You will not find any casino that will allow you to make any withdrawal before your deposit get confirmed. Satoshimines is one example which will add you deposit to your account without any confirmation but you have to wait to make withdrawal.
Also haven't heard about them asking for any ID documents, they also don't have any bonus so there is no any roll-over/wagering requirement.
Duckdice is also another one that accept deposit upto 0.01BTC without any network confirmation.
Yes I understand that for withdrawal I need confirmations, it's okay. Thanks for reply, will try these ! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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dossantosleite (OP)
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March 29, 2017, 11:51:46 AM |
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If you are referring for the casino's bonuses then you cannot do anything about it, they have there rules and you need to follow in order to be eligible. I'm pretty sure that most casinos does not require you to submit your documents because in any way they still preserve the anonymity in gambling which attracts more gamblers.
In the past I won a bonus and it requires me to do the rollover and I complicated it ending with a profit, but after they require me to submit an id and any receipt for address verification, I complied all of the requirement so I successfully claim my reward.
I am not looking to get bonuses. Thanks for your post, if you know some sites which accepts zero confirms, let me know. I am looking such sites because I could play fast, to not wait for confirms just to play.
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March 29, 2017, 03:45:34 PM |
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Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?
In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do. yeah you can do abandon transaction now so accepting zero confirmation is risky for the receiver, maybe the sender send the coina nd then abandon the transaction and get the bitcoin back plus the profit from the casino, in the past there was the need to wait for the mempool to send back the transaction which was not confirmed and was 48 hours if my memory serves me right
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March 29, 2017, 04:02:56 PM |
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Hello, Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans. I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans. Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested? Thanks in advance guys ! I even could pay for each such casino link ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) maybe you are not yet to found bitcoin gambling sites that work with you and this makes you getting loss in many sites. i think if you want to found that sites you mention, then i think there are many sites that don't need to have too long to waiting for deposit money, without rollovers and without id scans because as far as i know, the bitcoin gambling sites don't need this. as long as you send the bitcoin into the wallet, then you can start to playing gambling and you can withdraw it with easy.
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March 29, 2017, 04:56:13 PM |
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Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for. The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc. Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.
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dossantosleite (OP)
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March 30, 2017, 08:02:30 AM |
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Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for. The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc. Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.
Thank you. Will try these. Sportbet.io need 5x rollover for roulette game.
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March 30, 2017, 08:19:55 AM |
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Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for. The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc. Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.
Sportsbet.io asks for verification in the future when your withdrawals reach about up to 10btc this is stated in their terms. They are also connected with vegascasino.io and bitcasino.io so they have the same terms.
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March 30, 2017, 08:36:52 AM |
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Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for. The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc. Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.
Sportsbet.io asks for verification in the future when your withdrawals reach about up to 10btc this is stated in their terms. They are also connected with vegascasino.io and bitcasino.io so they have the same terms. vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60... Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.
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March 30, 2017, 09:56:41 AM |
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vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60... Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.
I don't know about x5 rollover on roulette I only use their sportsbook i'll ask their support about this. After talking with their live support the rollover for casino bonuses starts at 30x and the wager contribution for roulette is at 10%. The x5 rollover they said is only on their sportsbook bonus terms.
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March 30, 2017, 10:02:59 AM |
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all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation
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March 30, 2017, 10:20:59 AM |
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vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60... Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.
I don't know about x5 rollover on roulette I only use their sportsbook i'll ask their support about this. After talking with their live support the rollover for casino bonuses starts at 30x and the wager contribution for roulette is at 10%. The x5 rollover they said is only on their sportsbook bonus terms. I alo talked with live support and asked about wager contributor at 10% and they said they can't do it. Hmm looks to each person different answers from support ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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dossantosleite (OP)
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March 30, 2017, 10:24:20 AM |
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all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation
There arent any casino which confirms deposits with zero confirmations, because it would be dumbest thing for casinos to do.. but some casinos letting play without waiting confirmations so we can play fast, but of course in order to withdraw, deposit must have confirmations.
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March 30, 2017, 11:32:26 AM |
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Even accept 0 confirmations only to play is a bad idea, because you can deposit with low priority, play, and if you win, you let the transaction go through and be confirmed, if you lose, then you can double spend with high priority and lose nothing.
I don't know what the casinos that accept 0 confirmation payments do to avoid such situations
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March 30, 2017, 11:45:08 AM |
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Even accept 0 confirmations only to play is a bad idea, because you can deposit with low priority, play, and if you win, you let the transaction go through and be confirmed, if you lose, then you can double spend with high priority and lose nothing.
I don't know what the casinos that accept 0 confirmation payments do to avoid such situations
a lot of casino aware about this scenario and they have set the rules about it too, if you follow the directbet case where someone caught double spending attempt to bet there as directbet accept 0 confirmation you would know (yeah it wasn't a casino but still it could be an example) sportsbet.io accept 0 confirmation (they have a casino) but i wouldn't recommend to play there. i wish op have no bad agenda behind ask for this as i can see he has neg trust about hacking stuff and money laundering.
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