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March 31, 2017, 06:36:52 PM
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com
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March 31, 2017, 06:49:40 PM
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when polo?

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March 31, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
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when polo?

I don't think this announcement is made to launch a new altcoin or crowdfunding/ICO. Just a platform that will feat ICOs and crowdfundings I suppose.
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March 31, 2017, 07:37:55 PM
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when polo?

when polo to you to

Good luck guys!!!
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March 31, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
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As a potential investor I want to know how much of a return on my money I can make and the risk of the investment.  This would require:

Likely Expenses per Year -
Prior Profit on "like" business deals to date -
Future "deals" lined up -
Experience of Officers -
Why is your business a need in the industry -
Why is cofound.it the best team for this niche (ie. instead of Blockchain Capital?) -

This is a VC business it seems.  Its coin needs to be treated like stock in a company, not really a form of payment like bitcoin.
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March 31, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com
So if I want to run an ICO,cofound.it will help me with it.right?Will you also help in financing pre-ico?Why would one should seek your services instead of doing it on his own?After all we have a lots of successful ICOs in crypto world.What additional value will cofound add to it?

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April 01, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
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when polo?

when polo to you to

Good luck guys!!!

When polo to you all! Thanks Daparski, if we manage to get community members that are half as engaged as ICONOMI's we'll count it a success.

As a potential investor I want to know how much of a return on my money I can make and the risk of the investment.  This would require:

Likely Expenses per Year -
Prior Profit on "like" business deals to date -
Future "deals" lined up -
Experience of Officers -
Why is your business a need in the industry -
Why is cofound.it the best team for this niche (ie. instead of Blockchain Capital?) -

This is a VC business it seems.  Its coin needs to be treated like stock in a company, not really a form of payment like bitcoin.

Hey ajh,

we'll publish our financial model as part of the business plan in the following weeks where we'll go into details. When you'll plug in your estimate for the number of projects we'll work with and average amount raised you'll be able to see if it makes sense to you.

We are working with some very interesting projects. Some of them will be published before our ICO. Because their going public also includes a PR campaign we cannot launch all at once as then nobody would get any public notice.

Re the need - here's an overview of the state of the VC industry and why the time is right now: https://medium.com/cofoundit/is-there-room-for-vcs-in-a-tokenised-world-712bf111a9b1

Here's a table that gives a basic positioning overview:


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April 01, 2017, 07:37:55 AM
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So if I want to run an ICO,cofound.it will help me with it.right?Will you also help in financing pre-ico?Why would one should seek your services instead of doing it on his own?After all we have a lots of successful ICOs in crypto world.What additional value will cofound add to it?

That's a great question that cuts right into the core of our value proposition for teams. I'll do a short answer - my co-founder Daniel goes into more detail here: https://medium.com/cofoundit/coaching-blockchain-superstars-8ba4b1dfc9d4

First: we really do not have lots of successful ICOs if we look at the number of hopeful teams - but we tend to lose sight of all those projects that languish in the "12 BTC raised in 3 weeks" zone. If we plot the ICOs on two axis, technical ability and business ability, there are some that score great on both - the superstars. But there are not many of those.



We've spoken with over 30 projects in the past few months. Most of the teams we have engaged with fall somewhere in the middle part of the quadrant  —  typically (but not always) with a very solid technology background but lacking the more business-oriented pieces of the puzzle.

Cofound.it’s value proposition is simple — we bring the missing pieces of the puzzle and create dream teams! In essence, this is the “smart” part of the money a traditional VC investment brings but on steroids since we can leverage a much larger and global network of experts and services tailored to each project.

For teams that work with us, we:
  • evaluate the team, find the best way we could add value and assign world-class experts to work with them
  • assign a head coach to coordinate with the team and the experts
  • cover the promotional costs up-front (20-50k$)
  • help with communication strategy, copywriting..
  • help with optimal ICO parameters (so, "no 50M cap", "no 150% bonus on this specific alt coin"

And - we are free! We take none of the funds received and only a share of the tokens.

Of course all of this is easy to type and harder to do. Look at what we do in the following weeks and months and decide for yourself whether we are fulfilling our promises or not.
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April 01, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.

Hope legit ICO do some research before they use your service.

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April 01, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
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Hope legit ICO do some research before they use your service.

I completely agree - not just our service but any service. Then decide on the best one based on the track record.
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April 01, 2017, 02:13:39 PM
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.


Can you expand on this part please? 
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.


Can you expand on this part please? 

ICONOMI changed value return mechanism from dividends to buyback&burn. More information in their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789926.0
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May 13, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com

Why this thread is not active anymore even you've decided the ICO date?

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May 13, 2017, 09:29:38 PM
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I am also looking forward to know more about cofound.it.The concept is attractive and it will,if implemented well,help both investors and ICO.
With cofound evaluating the ICO for us,half of our job is done.

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May 14, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
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Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf

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May 15, 2017, 09:07:18 AM
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Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf

Based on this whitepaper,the crowdsale would begin on 24th of this month and will last for a month?

How many coins will be sold out along with the initail bonus?

Hope the cofound team will update all these details here.

 
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May 15, 2017, 12:51:56 PM
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Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf

Based on this whitepaper,the crowdsale would begin on 24th of this month and will last for a month?

How many coins will be sold out along with the initail bonus?

Hope the cofound team will update all these details here.

"The final 25% of Cofound.it tokens will be sold via crowdsale, starting on May 24th at 11 AM EST / 17 PM CET"
The sale will last for 4 weeks.

Here's the distrubiton details:


threshold: $1M
core goal-soft cap: $2.5M
hard cap: $12.5M

More details:
https://cofound.it/en/
https://medium.com/cofoundit/cofound-it-crowdsale-details-e8db92463194

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This ICO is so quiet.

 
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May 19, 2017, 01:51:46 PM
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This ICO is so quiet.
Maybe because it is in a wrong section they are holding a token ico and it is in marketplace it should be on altcoin announcement and not here and why there is no ico in the heading all the other ico are with the word in their announcement title,this could be their failure or the team is very ignorant on how to start one.



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May 19, 2017, 03:05:13 PM
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This ICO is so quiet.
Maybe because it is in a wrong section they are holding a token ico and it is in marketplace it should be on altcoin announcement and not here and why there is no ico in the heading all the other ico are with the word in their announcement title,this could be their failure or the team is very ignorant on how to start one.

I don't think that team is ignorant. Because I guess they have ICONOMI support so I think they know how a succesful ICO campaign could be run. Maybe they are just ignore the crowd in here. Maybe the big inversters already lined up. We'll see soon  Cheesy

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I got an email from ICONOMI today about this ICO.

Some people from ICONOMI team seems involved in Cofound.


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May 25, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
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I got an email from ICONOMI today about this ICO.

Some people from ICONOMI team seems involved in Cofound.
ICONOMI is turning its current mentoring program (started in November) into a separate venture called Cofound.it that will provide the same level of vetting and counseling to ICOs that is typically provided to startups by traditional venture capitalists and incubators, albeit in a distributed way.

source: https://www.ethnews.com/iconomi-spin-off-cofoundit-addresses-the-ico-vs-venture-capitalist-dilemma
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Your ico is scheduled for 7 may but there is no ANN thread of cofound here on forum.This thread is also not updated regularly

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Hi all,

apologies for the lack of replies.

We are focusing on Slack (http://cofoundit.herokuapp.com/) and Medium (https://medium.com/cofoundit) as the main communication channels for our crowdsale and will not be posting an ANN thread in the altcoin ANN section. However, your efforts in reaching out here are appreciated and I am sorry for not getting back - it was unprofessional of me to open a thread and then not answer. I will answer any questions you might have.

Here'a Live Q&A we had yesterday if you want a quick overview of what we're doing and why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x4w8B9AUVU

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ICO is only 25% of tokens?  Seems low, don't you think? 
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Hi,

great question. Yes - and no. I'll go into a bit more detail about our thinking on this - tell me what you think.

One of the functions of the token for the tokenised companies is the function of equity - regardless of how the token is actually defined. Although CFI is defined as a utility token,  for us it also represents equity. We will never sell off parts of the underlying company. The actual legal entity is like a janitor, nothing more - tokens are key.

Given that role we feel that most of the projects sell off too much tokens at the beginning of their journey. There is a reason startups do not sell 85% of their equity in the seed round. It's not about how much money they would receive for it. It's about retaining flexibility for the future. For regular startups that might include selling later, but more importantly it could serve the role of cementing the relationship with key partners. You simply cannot predict everything at the very start - it's wise to keep some sort of reserve for future flexibility.

When a company grows large enough it has to take its place in the value chain with the established players. They have two options - accept the new company or try and squish it out of existence. A share in the equity is typically used to make sure the other companies accept it - then, its success becomes their success.

Something similar holds true for tokenised companies - except that at the moment we're all so small and swimming in such a small pool that the big guys don't care about it. But what happens with Cofound.it in 2,3 years when we really grow? Our plan is to have a stash of tokens we can use to partner with the key players from the old and new economy. This reserve will be on a public address and constantly auditable by all so you can make sure we're not selling it or anything - we will communicate our plans for this transparently (but, again, not for at least 2 years).

And that is the main reason for the 25% of reserved tokens. We do not intend to use them to raise more money, but to ensure our place in the ecosystem.

20% go to purchase Cashila assets and know-how. Cofound.it is built upon the know-how and code developed by Cashila for the ICONOMI ICO and the core of the idea was developed by them, not me or Daniel. Plus, we want to make supporting Cofound.it crowdsales for people new to crypto economy as simple as possible - ideally one-click! For that we need the fiat-crypto gateway and Cashila already has one.

10% go to ICONOMI that supported Cofound.it (and still supports it) both financially and by providing guidance and access to their network.

5% are reserved for advisory team. You've seen our advisory bench and I think you have to agree that experts like those are worth it.

And 15% are reserved for the team, vested over 24 months with a 6 month cliff.

I think that Gnosis has showed that the actual % does not really impact token price. What matters is what happens to the rest - does it hit the market, causing the price to plummet, or not. Team is vested, ICONOMI considers this a long-term investment, and Cashila founders and VCs are experienced investors who realise what happens when you dump tokens so I have no fear of that.

We did not come to this decision lightly. It would be easiest for us to go the usual way and we would definitely have an easier task at communicating our crowdsale. But we are building Cofound.it for the decades ahead and have thought hard about what challenges might await us. Our token distribution strategy reflects that.

Welp, this got a bit too long - sorry Smiley

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Hi,

great question. Yes - and no. I'll go into a bit more detail about our thinking on this - tell me what you think.

One of the functions of the token for the tokenised companies is the function of equity - regardless of how the token is actually defined. Although CFI is defined as a utility token,  for us it also represents equity. We will never sell off parts of the underlying company. The actual legal entity is like a janitor, nothing more - tokens are key.

Given that role we feel that most of the projects sell off too much tokens at the beginning of their journey. There is a reason startups do not sell 85% of their equity in the seed round. It's not about how much money they would receive for it. It's about retaining flexibility for the future. For regular startups that might include selling later, but more importantly it could serve the role of cementing the relationship with key partners. You simply cannot predict everything at the very start - it's wise to keep some sort of reserve for future flexibility.

When a company grows large enough it has to take its place in the value chain with the established players. They have two options - accept the new company or try and squish it out of existence. A share in the equity is typically used to make sure the other companies accept it - then, its success becomes their success.

Something similar holds true for tokenised companies - except that at the moment we're all so small and swimming in such a small pool that the big guys don't care about it. But what happens with Cofound.it in 2,3 years when we really grow? Our plan is to have a stash of tokens we can use to partner with the key players from the old and new economy. This reserve will be on a public address and constantly auditable by all so you can make sure we're not selling it or anything - we will communicate our plans for this transparently (but, again, not for at least 2 years).

And that is the main reason for the 25% of reserved tokens. We do not intend to use them to raise more money, but to ensure our place in the ecosystem.

20% go to purchase Cashila assets and know-how. Cofound.it is built upon the know-how and code developed by Cashila for the ICONOMI ICO and the core of the idea was developed by them, not me or Daniel. Plus, we want to make supporting Cofound.it crowdsales for people new to crypto economy as simple as possible - ideally one-click! For that we need the fiat-crypto gateway and Cashila already has one.

10% go to ICONOMI that supported Cofound.it (and still supports it) both financially and by providing guidance and access to their network.

5% are reserved for advisory team. You've seen our advisory bench and I think you have to agree that experts like those are worth it.

And 15% are reserved for the team, vested over 24 months with a 6 month cliff.

I think that Gnosis has showed that the actual % does not really impact token price. What matters is what happens to the rest - does it hit the market, causing the price to plummet, or not. Team is vested, ICONOMI considers this a long-term investment, and Cashila founders and VCs are experienced investors who realise what happens when you dump tokens so I have no fear of that.

We did not come to this decision lightly. It would be easiest for us to go the usual way and we would definitely have an easier task at communicating our crowdsale. But we are building Cofound.it for the decades ahead and have thought hard about what challenges might await us. Our token distribution strategy reflects that.

Welp, this got a bit too long - sorry Smiley

Jan

Thank you for the detailed explanation.  Best of luck.
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I have not known an ico coin who has not open a thread in the altcoin section,it is a must because from that thread,you can access all the relevant information about the coin,and this is where everything started,this ico has zero value at all for not doing the first thing that needs to be done.

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May 26, 2017, 03:02:54 PM
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I would say they want to copy https://adelphoi.io/ which is still an active ICO...
What is the difference between you and them? Adel ecosystem looks more interesting at the moment...
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Hey oportunis,

thanks for the question.

Adel is trying to solve a similar problem than we are, but we are approaching it from the other end. We believe that the key challenge right now is a business one, not a technical one. So we have started to solve the business problems in trying to establish a VC ecosystem: how to evaluate projects, how to find what value to add, how to find the optimal experts, how to coordinate the coaching, how to calculate added value, how to do marketing & PR and how to do a crowdsale. Once we find the best way to solve them we'll work on translating the processes into code.

That's also why we are already able to work with the projects already (our pipeline is full till October at this point), which will mean that we are cash-flow positive from the start. The main goal of our crowdsale are to:
  • test the process - we are basically the guinnea pig testing it - we will find problems so the process for the projects will be smoother
  • raise awareness - we are getting several project signups per day
  • test cool new ideas like Cofound.it Priority Pass that allows engaged supporters access to the crowdsale before the general public
  • and finally raise funds so we can expand quicker

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Is it worth investing ? How will the platform generate profits ?
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Next level greed here. You don't even need the money, let alone basically keeping 65-75% of the tokens to yourself. Hell, no one even needs your company. People are more than happy to throw millions at random ICOs without any form of due diligence.
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June 01, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
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Is it worth investing ? How will the platform generate profits ?

Here are the key assumptions of Cofound.it:
In essence, Cofound.it is a three-sided marketplace.

From the point of view of the experts, Cofound.it is a platform where they can use their expertise to get dream jobs. There are 12M freelancers on Upwork. We are aiming for 1M experts.

From the POV of startups, Cofound.it is a one-stop-shop not only to help with the process but to reach out to the existing supporter community. We're already getting multiple applications per day. We expect hundreds of thousands of startups to use this service in the future.

And finally for the supporters, not only do we provide verified projects but also actively work on rewarding them for their engagement, like Cofound.it Priority Pass that allows engaged supporters early access to the crowdsale. In time, this group will become larger and larger.

So this is what you are getting by supporting the Cofound.it crowdsale. An exclusive ticket to the platform that literally wants to make current VCs obsolete. A distributed VC ecosystem for the distributed age. With all the platform features designed to encourage using and holding the tokens. More about token role and value return here: https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-token-role-and-value-returns-514a8aeface1, but tl;dr - as the Cofound.it platform will be designed to encourage token use and holding, this will fuel the rise of token value in proportion to platform use. Short-term, Cofound.it team will be purchasing tokens on open market to fuel platform features like rewarding project evaluators

Will we make it? I don't know. But we have a top-notch team, some of the best advisors in the world and support from some of the best and most engaged supporters ever, and will work our hearts out to succeed. We already have a pipeline of projects that will last us through October with some really amazing names. We're forecasting a total deal flow of 50+M for the second half of the year, which immediately makes Cofound.it one of the largest VCs in the world. And we're building our service to use all the best features blockchain tech can give us, and partner with some amazing companies both in the blockchain space and in the old economy. I kinda like our odds Smiley

Now, is this worth investing - that is of course a question for you. I can tell you that more than 1200 supporters already think so and have applied for the Cofound.it Priority Pass, which allows them to send the funds a few days before the rest - a crowdsale mechanic we're testing out to try and reward engaged supporters. More info here: https://blog.cofound.it/introducing-cofound-it-priority-pass-7d3ab58fa6dd
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i like this project, this is a huge market...but there is still an open question from me. will we get a share in the platform?
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In short: no. Granting the token equity rights is potentially problematic from a legal standpoint, so our token is defined as a pure utility token (more here: https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-token-role-and-value-returns-514a8aeface1). That said we are working on mechanisms for value return to make owning the token worthwhile - otherwise, what's the point? Smiley
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In short: no. Granting the token equity rights is potentially problematic from a legal standpoint, so our token is defined as a pure utility token (more here: https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-token-role-and-value-returns-514a8aeface1). That said we are working on mechanisms for value return to make owning the token worthwhile - otherwise, what's the point? Smiley

Welcome back  Cheesy

I read that blog post. Wanna ask a question.
CFI holders get some proportion of the particaped(who use you service and pay with their own tokens) tokens. Is that right?
If so can we say that actual valu of holding CFI come from that?

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June 01, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
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In short: no. Granting the token equity rights is potentially problematic from a legal standpoint, so our token is defined as a pure utility token (more here: https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-token-role-and-value-returns-514a8aeface1). That said we are working on mechanisms for value return to make owning the token worthwhile - otherwise, what's the point? Smiley

Welcome back  Cheesy

I read that blog post. Wanna ask a question.
CFI holders get some proportion of the particaped(who use you service and pay with their own tokens) tokens. Is that right?
If so can we say that actual valu of holding CFI come from that?

Hey Smiley

No, and here is why: The solution where Cofound.it token holders get a share of the project tokens was the first one we started working on. It seems really straightforward and obvious at first glance. However, I spent weeks in Excel trying to make it work, and failed. If the amount of project tokens was large enough to be noticeable for CFI token holders, there was not enough funds left for operations.

There was also a more subtle problem: directly returning a share of the profits (in the form of tokens or other) mis-aligns the incentives of the Cofound.it token holders and the platform itself.  The token holders wish to keep costs down to increase returned value, which is counter-productive to rapid platform development. Using the profits to speed up platform development, geographical and market penetration has the potential to bring multiples of value spent.
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In short: no. Granting the token equity rights is potentially problematic from a legal standpoint, so our token is defined as a pure utility token (more here: https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-token-role-and-value-returns-514a8aeface1). That said we are working on mechanisms for value return to make owning the token worthwhile - otherwise, what's the point? Smiley

Welcome back  Cheesy

I read that blog post. Wanna ask a question.
CFI holders get some proportion of the particaped(who use you service and pay with their own tokens) tokens. Is that right?
If so can we say that actual valu of holding CFI come from that?

Hey Smiley

No, and here is why: The solution where Cofound.it token holders get a share of the project tokens was the first one we started working on. It seems really straightforward and obvious at first glance. However, I spent weeks in Excel trying to make it work, and failed. If the amount of project tokens was large enough to be noticeable for CFI token holders, there was not enough funds left for operations.

There was also a more subtle problem: directly returning a share of the profits (in the form of tokens or other) mis-aligns the incentives of the Cofound.it token holders and the platform itself.  The token holders wish to keep costs down to increase returned value, which is counter-productive to rapid platform development. Using the profits to speed up platform development, geographical and market penetration has the potential to bring multiples of value spent.

Hey  Cheesy

Thanks for answer but I couldn't get this part: "If the amount of project tokens was large enough to be noticeable for CFI token holders, there was not enough funds left for operations."


Okay this is right. "Using the profits to speed up platform development, geographical and market penetration has the potential to bring multiples of value spent."

But I don't get it why the holders would want keep costs down? If I had CFI I'd just hold it and then maybe use other projects tokens that I got from you and maybe keep them or use for another thing. The another thing could be buy more CFI. This is also buy pressure, right?

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June 01, 2017, 07:58:39 PM
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But I don't get it why the holders would want keep costs down? If I had CFI I'd just hold it and then maybe use other projects tokens that I got from you and maybe keep them or use for another thing. The another thing could be buy more CFI. This is also buy pressure, right?

This is the basic logic:

profits=project income - operations cost

So an optimal short-term strategy for token holders is to make project income as high as possible and operation costs as low as possible. And low operation costs mean fewer developers and fewer marketing. The tokens would be expensive, but the company would face constant pressure to keep the costs low.

Does this make sense?
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But I don't get it why the holders would want keep costs down? If I had CFI I'd just hold it and then maybe use other projects tokens that I got from you and maybe keep them or use for another thing. The another thing could be buy more CFI. This is also buy pressure, right?

This is the basic logic:

profits=project income - operations cost

So an optimal short-term strategy for token holders is to make project income as high as possible and operation costs as low as possible. And low operation costs mean fewer developers and fewer marketing. The tokens would be expensive, but the company would face constant pressure to keep the costs low.

Does this make sense?

Yep  Cheesy

As an ameteur investor I'd prefer some token returns as cost of holding CFI. This is just my side though  Wink

Any reson for Sinagpore? Lately lots of projects seem based on there.

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June 01, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
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Yep  Cheesy

As an ameteur investor I'd prefer some token returns as cost of holding CFI. This is just my side though  Wink

Any reson for Sinagpore? Lately lots of projects seem based on there.

We actually decided against Singapore at the very last moment and went to BVI. Too late for that article though Smiley

Singapore is moving fast towards clear rules and regulations, which will be great. But they are not there yet, so we played it safe and will only have a subsidiary there until the situation becomes totally clear.
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Yep  Cheesy

As an ameteur investor I'd prefer some token returns as cost of holding CFI. This is just my side though  Wink

Any reson for Sinagpore? Lately lots of projects seem based on there.

We actually decided against Singapore at the very last moment and went to BVI. Too late for that article though Smiley

Singapore is moving fast towards clear rules and regulations, which will be great. But they are not there yet, so we played it safe and will only have a subsidiary there until the situation becomes totally clear.

Thanks for answers and your patient  Grin

BTW as far as I know BVI is extremely flexible about the financial things. If you chose to give dividends to holders it wouldn't be problem legally I guess

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Not for them.. but what about certain countries and exchanges? Sad!
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Not for them.. but what about certain countries and exchanges? Sad!

You're right, I forgot the exchange problem for dividend for a while  Lips sealed
Also ICONOMI chose to buyback instead of dividend because of exchanges I guess. Kraken USA based so they would unlist otherwise  Lips sealed

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I like the idea of CFI - VC Concept.

We are in the world of competition. ICO- Crypto-Blockchain Projects are launching almost every day.

To be realistic, mostly VC's are for wealthy and rich people.

Sooner or later we will be in the new economy of VC and CFI is the way for it.

Where-in rich meets poor. Intelligent meets average.

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We're being hit with a FUD campaign and they might soon find this thread so brace yourselves Smiley hopefully we can resume normal communication after our crowdsale.
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hi, dev, i want to know the relationship between the Cofund.it  and the Iconomi, can you give me some detail information? Thank you very much!

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Hey,

Cofound.it started as ICONOMI Mentoring program. We realised that this could potentially be a bigger story - but it would require total focus and more investment than ICONOMI supporters signed for. So we decided that it's best to spin off Cofound.it and form a new team around Daniel and me. ICONOMI will receive 10% of Cofound.it tokens, but we are independent. So we can totally focus on helping great projects and ICONOMI can focus on delivering a kick-ass Digital Asset Management platform.
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com

Where is the ANN thread on the bitcoin Forum? I cannot find it or may be I missed it somewhere. Also, there is few discussion in this thread about the Cofound.it. Is it not a hot project?

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Hey,

Cofound.it started as ICONOMI Mentoring program. We realised that this could potentially be a bigger story - but it would require total focus and more investment than ICONOMI supporters signed for. So we decided that it's best to spin off Cofound.it and form a new team around Daniel and me. ICONOMI will receive 10% of Cofound.it tokens, but we are independent. So we can totally focus on helping great projects and ICONOMI can focus on delivering a kick-ass Digital Asset Management platform.

Thank you for your answer. Another question is:
Is there any escrow for the tokens? It is mentioned that "The token compensation model has been proven to work. It was developed by the crypto community and used for years with community members performing escrow, translation, marketing or other services to crowdsale projects - the so-called “bounties”." on the website https://cofound.it/en/. Any details about this escrow?

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Where is the ANN thread on the bitcoin Forum? I cannot find it or may be I missed it somewhere. Also, there is few discussion in this thread about the Cofound.it. Is it not a hot project?

There is no official ANN thread. Our resources are very strained as we're working with projects already so we had to choose one channel to focus on and we chose our Slack. The forum interface is really suboptimal for structured communications, answers have to be repeated on every page.. it really requires more effort than we could devote. And I'd rather have a smaller thread where I can answer most questions than a poorly done main ANN thread.

Is it hot.. wait a few days and see Smiley
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Thank you for your answer. Another question is:
Is there any escrow for the tokens? It is mentioned that "The token compensation model has been proven to work. It was developed by the crypto community and used for years with community members performing escrow, translation, marketing or other services to crowdsale projects - the so-called “bounties”." on the website https://cofound.it/en/. Any details about this escrow?

Ah - our meaning was a bit different. The business model that we use, where experts help projects in exchange for crowdsale tokens, is actually the same model as is used on this forum for services like escrow.

However, there is no escrow for our crowdsale - it's an ETH smart contract that sends the funds back if the threshold is not reached or automatically distributes the tokens after the end.
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How many Cofound for 1ETH ? 

Thank you for your answer. Another question is:
Is there any escrow for the tokens? It is mentioned that "The token compensation model has been proven to work. It was developed by the crypto community and used for years with community members performing escrow, translation, marketing or other services to crowdsale projects - the so-called “bounties”." on the website https://cofound.it/en/. Any details about this escrow?

Ah - our meaning was a bit different. The business model that we use, where experts help projects in exchange for crowdsale tokens, is actually the same model as is used on this forum for services like escrow.

However, there is no escrow for our crowdsale - it's an ETH smart contract that sends the funds back if the threshold is not reached or automatically distributes the tokens after the end.
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In todays worls people want quick results.Iconomi taking ages to create a platform,how will cofound be different when you have same team?

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Those that want a high-tech ultra-secure fin-tech platform like ICONOMI done in 3 months should familiarise themselves with the complexities of software development.. We will work as fast as we can, but for investors that want miracles perhaps other projects would be more to their taste Smiley

Also.. we're not dependant on the platform to start working. We have already announced the first project at http://x8currency.com/ and will announce several more on Monday. Stay tuned!
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How many Cofound for 1ETH ? is one to one or there will be bonus for early investor?

Those that want a high-tech ultra-secure fin-tech platform like ICONOMI done in 3 months should familiarise themselves with the complexities of software development.. We will work as fast as we can, but for investors that want miracles perhaps other projects would be more to their taste Smiley

Also.. we're not dependant on the platform to start working. We have already announced the first project at http://x8currency.com/ and will announce several more on Monday. Stay tuned!
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Is there any bug in cofound it pre-sale smart contract? why are there so many translation rejected by your contract?
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Can't send some eth too... alwas getting an error !??!?







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Yes. Our bad. We implemented Priority pass by sending a batch of white-listed transactions just before the start, which were overwhelmed by the whale Txs and delayed everything.

My apologies. We have learned from our mistake and the projects launching on Cofound.it will not make it again.

The sending of funds works now.

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Hello

it doesn't work for me...
I have tried 5 times already, with different amounts of ETH and gas...already lost more than 15 M gas...
Thanks for help!
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Hello

it doesn't work for me...
I have tried 5 times already, with different amounts of ETH and gas...already lost more than 15 M gas...
Thanks for help!

What error are you getting?

If you are getting " Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Bad instruction]", that means you are not allowed in the pre sale. Wait till Wednesday for public crowdsale.

But if you think, if you are whitelisted, for confirmation, go to https://etherscan.io/address/0x55ae5792903b179915e10065e26610435832a3f7#readContract

Enter you address "isAddressAllowedInPresale', if true then send the funds. If still an issue, contact Jan or Daniel in slack, they can help you out


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Is the ICO not allowed for US Citizens?



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Isn't CoinDash doing exactly like this cofoundit too? CoinDash however is doing something very different and have been in beta version now.
While they are also a platform for ICOs, they are also developing decentralized trading platform for anyone to trade.

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Hi,

Kermee: due to unclear regulations we have added this safeguard against potential legal liability. But it's hard to determine where ETH comes from..

Fudster - obviously not exactly the same as they are also doing a trading platform Smiley We're launching our first three projects later today - you'll be able to see both how we choose them and how we add value. But in a nutshell, we provide a full expert assistance service - from legal to PR to branding to sales ... to help the projects not only have a successful crowdsale but also a great start to their business.

If anyone is having problems with their address, come to our public slack and IM me. We'll sort it out.
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"But it's hard to determine where ETH comes from.."

You know what he means  Wink

I missed the prioritypass opportunity. Just clicked the link that in the email ICONOMI sent, but it said priority pass form not available anymore. Have to wait Wednesday  Undecided

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Hey,

IM me here on our slack. We'll sort it out.

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I got email today that I am on whitelist.I hope I am not late to invest in

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Hey,

IM me here on our slack. We'll sort it out.

Jan

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Thank you for your support! 50% done, 50% to go.
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Our 24h update: https://blog.cofound.it/24-hours-recap-over-7m-priority-pass-contributions-first-three-cofound-it-projects-launched-ea183989c922

Highlights: Over $7M Priority Pass contributions, first three Cofound.it projects launched with Santiment, Musiconomi and X8 Currency joining the exclusive group of Cofound.it projects. Cofound.it Priority Pass members will receive exclusive early access to their crowdsales.
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Our 24h update: https://blog.cofound.it/24-hours-recap-over-7m-priority-pass-contributions-first-three-cofound-it-projects-launched-ea183989c922

Highlights: Over $7M Priority Pass contributions, first three Cofound.it projects launched with Santiment, Musiconomi and X8 Currency joining the exclusive group of Cofound.it projects. Cofound.it Priority Pass members will receive exclusive early access to their crowdsales.

Jan, can you give us more details about the hubs?
Europe, Taiwan, New York. And what about the other. Because as I understand if you reach 12.5m there will be 10 hubs and the Europe hub.

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Hey,

great question! And - no, can't really give a full answer yet. We know we'll start in Taiwan (already there), London (already there), NYC (need somebody there). Then HK or Shanghai, but we'll need to establish local contacts to find good people and ambassadors. Probably one in Holland where we're partnering with an established local accelerator (to be published in the future) who will help some of our projects scale. Still on to-do list - South America (although I'm probably going to Sao Paolo soon where our partners Agentic Group have a good local network), Russia, Japan, at least one if not two in Africa..

Always happy to hear suggestions, too - if your area is a blockchain hotspot, let me know Smiley I was in TX recently and was blown away by all the amazing blockchain people and projects there and I'm sure there are tons of places like that.
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Hey,

I assume you'll be in the same place as ICONOMI, so Slovenia is your hub.

Slovenia (done)
Taiwan (done)
London (done)
New York (in process)
Hong Kong
Shanghai
Holland
South America - Brazil
Russia
Japan
Africa - could be South Africa

1 + 10 well, you're done Jan  Cheesy

How are the hubs going to act? I think it'll be great to have chance face to face connection with potential startups, investors, or someone who interests. That'll give a lot of options I guess. One more thing. Can we say that the whole Cofound operation will be in harmonious with ICONOMI.

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ICONOMI is built on the assumptions that there will be thousands of tokens that will need to be traded. And Cofound.it is a good-project token generation machine Smiley
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ICONOMI is built on the assumptions that there will be thousands of tokens that will need to be traded. And Cofound.it is a good-project token generation machine Smiley
I got my answer. One way or another they already working in harmonious  Cheesy

"due to unclear regulations we have added this safeguard against potential legal liability. But it's hard to determine where ETH comes from.." like this one. Smart answers  Cheesy

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This is a great project, spun off from ICONOMI I think. So many "funds" are coming up, but this has a history is at least understandable. I'll be investing a bit
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Thank you for your support!
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What is the need of creating hubs in different places.Btw where can we verify that you got 50% investment?Can you please share the address?

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Hi,

we're moving funds to multisig. Here's the list: https://etherscan.io/address/0x55AE5792903b179915E10065E26610435832A3F7#internaltx

Hubs are a crucial part of our strategy. Local presence acts as a sales funnel, expert attractor and helps with project evaluation as we want to meet each team we work with in person.
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Hi,

we're moving funds to multisig. Here's the list: https://etherscan.io/address/0x55AE5792903b179915E10065E26610435832A3F7#internaltx

Hubs are a crucial part of our strategy. Local presence acts as a sales funnel, expert attractor and helps with project evaluation as we want to meet each team we work with in person.
Thanks for providing this info.Will ICONOMI also invest in cofound or would it be vice versa ? Sorry if it has already been answered somewhere

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Hi,

ICONOMI already gets 10% of Cofound.it tokens. Not sure if ICNP plans to invest.
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Hi,

ICONOMI already gets 10% of Cofound.it tokens. Not sure if ICNP plans to invest.
So out of 12.5 millions tokens on sale during crowdsale,ICONOMI already own 1.25 m cofound tokens?

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Hi,

great question. Yes - and no. I'll go into a bit more detail about our thinking on this - tell me what you think.

One of the functions of the token for the tokenised companies is the function of equity - regardless of how the token is actually defined. Although CFI is defined as a utility token,  for us it also represents equity. We will never sell off parts of the underlying company. The actual legal entity is like a janitor, nothing more - tokens are key.

Given that role we feel that most of the projects sell off too much tokens at the beginning of their journey. There is a reason startups do not sell 85% of their equity in the seed round. It's not about how much money they would receive for it. It's about retaining flexibility for the future. For regular startups that might include selling later, but more importantly it could serve the role of cementing the relationship with key partners. You simply cannot predict everything at the very start - it's wise to keep some sort of reserve for future flexibility.

When a company grows large enough it has to take its place in the value chain with the established players. They have two options - accept the new company or try and squish it out of existence. A share in the equity is typically used to make sure the other companies accept it - then, its success becomes their success.

Something similar holds true for tokenised companies - except that at the moment we're all so small and swimming in such a small pool that the big guys don't care about it. But what happens with Cofound.it in 2,3 years when we really grow? Our plan is to have a stash of tokens we can use to partner with the key players from the old and new economy. This reserve will be on a public address and constantly auditable by all so you can make sure we're not selling it or anything - we will communicate our plans for this transparently (but, again, not for at least 2 years).

And that is the main reason for the 25% of reserved tokens. We do not intend to use them to raise more money, but to ensure our place in the ecosystem.

20% go to purchase Cashila assets and know-how. Cofound.it is built upon the know-how and code developed by Cashila for the ICONOMI ICO and the core of the idea was developed by them, not me or Daniel. Plus, we want to make supporting Cofound.it crowdsales for people new to crypto economy as simple as possible - ideally one-click! For that we need the fiat-crypto gateway and Cashila already has one.

10% go to ICONOMI that supported Cofound.it (and still supports it) both financially and by providing guidance and access to their network.

5% are reserved for advisory team. You've seen our advisory bench and I think you have to agree that experts like those are worth it.

And 15% are reserved for the team, vested over 24 months with a 6 month cliff.

I think that Gnosis has showed that the actual % does not really impact token price. What matters is what happens to the rest - does it hit the market, causing the price to plummet, or not. Team is vested, ICONOMI considers this a long-term investment, and Cashila founders and VCs are experienced investors who realise what happens when you dump tokens so I have no fear of that.

We did not come to this decision lightly. It would be easiest for us to go the usual way and we would definitely have an easier task at communicating our crowdsale. But we are building Cofound.it for the decades ahead and have thought hard about what challenges might await us. Our token distribution strategy reflects that.

Welp, this got a bit too long - sorry Smiley

Jan

Update: 85% full in presale (public sale starts tomorrow).
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more then 12 mill antil now.....
https://etherscan.io/address/0x55ae5792903b179915e10065e26610435832a3f7#internaltx

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June 06, 2017, 05:01:33 PM
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this will soldout before ICO lol

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June 06, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
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this will soldout before ICO lol

High possibility  Cheesy

51686.80280200 out of 56565 ETH (91.38%)

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June 06, 2017, 07:49:38 PM
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I wonder how the public will react after it's found that they favored people who follow the project over whale investors. Seems good to me on paper, but there might be a lot of outrage.

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I wonder how the public will react after it's found that they favored people who follow the project over whale investors. Seems good to me on paper, but there might be a lot of outrage.

Yes, it'll be bad for who is waiting the public sale.
I don't think team would wait this kind of interest from early investors.

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Note: we have another fun kind of scammers in our Slack, spamming "PP application" phishing forms. The applications are closed. Please do not click weird links from strangers - good advice for life, not just Cofound.it crowdsale Smiley

In unrelated news, 54157 ETH / 95.74%
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Note: we have another fun kind of scammers in our Slack, spamming "PP application" phishing forms. The applications are closed. Please do not click weird links from strangers - good advice for life, not just Cofound.it crowdsale Smiley

In unrelated news, 54157 ETH / 95.74%
'This is great.Most probably it will reach the target tomorrow.If that happens and there will be no ICO for public,will tokens be unlocked after 14 days from tomorrow or will it be unlocked 2weeks after 7th july?

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Hey,

2 weeks after July 7th is the max possible time if the crowdsale lasts for the whole duration. We'll change the lock period to that agreed with exchanges.
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I was monitoring this ico to invest today once it should open. But this was sold out before ICO.

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Small investors will participate . There won't be any big us investors the opportunity .

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Thank you to all our supporters!

Please feel free to keep up the discussion about Cofound.it - I'm not going anywhere, but it might take me a while to answer.
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Thank you to all our supporters!

Please feel free to keep up the discussion about Cofound.it - I'm not going anywhere, but it might take me a while to answer.

Congrats!

It was great success, just members-funding  Cheesy
I guess this is the first example among ICOs

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Congrats, cofound.it team  Cool
It was good one, now waiting some exciting news  Wink

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June 07, 2017, 10:16:11 AM
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In my opinion these people are idiots - totally disorganised ICO and not clear at all

It sold out in the pre-sale from what I hear...though they said it would open at 11am EST today

Capping their funds like that is the height of stupidity...they could have easily tripled their money if they stuck by their word

I view this organisation as disorganised and lacking common sense
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In my opinion these people are idiots - totally disorganised ICO and not clear at all

It sold out in the pre-sale from what I hear...though they said it would open at 11am EST today

Capping their funds like that is the height of stupidity...they could have easily tripled their money if they stuck by their word

I view this organisation as disorganised and lacking common sense

You're saying they should've rised $37.5m for 25%. So that means Cofound value is $150m. Wouldn't that be overvalued?

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June 07, 2017, 11:03:41 AM
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In my opinion these people are idiots - totally disorganised ICO and not clear at all

It sold out in the pre-sale from what I hear...though they said it would open at 11am EST today

Capping their funds like that is the height of stupidity...they could have easily tripled their money if they stuck by their word

I view this organisation as disorganised and lacking common sense

You're saying they should've rised $37.5m for 25%. So that means Cofound value is $150m. Wouldn't that be overvalued?

Doesnt matter if its overvalued...what matters is they have the money in their hands to give themselves a head start

To cut themselves short like that lacks common sense imho

They could have easily raised significantly more

But anyway, it is what it is

I see it as being a disorganised ICO with poor communication....
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Congratulations guys  Smiley

As I see cofound has long way to go  Wink

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June 07, 2017, 11:25:11 AM
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In my opinion these people are idiots - totally disorganised ICO and not clear at all

It sold out in the pre-sale from what I hear...though they said it would open at 11am EST today

Capping their funds like that is the height of stupidity...they could have easily tripled their money if they stuck by their word

I view this organisation as disorganised and lacking common sense

You're saying they should've rised $37.5m for 25%. So that means Cofound value is $150m. Wouldn't that be overvalued?

Doesnt matter if its overvalued...what matters is they have the money in their hands to give themselves a head start

To cut themselves short like that lacks common sense imho

They could have easily raised significantly more

But anyway, it is what it is

I see it as being a disorganised ICO with poor communication....
They raised the targeted funds in 3 days, whh should they have dragged it till a whole month just to get more than they needed?.
What poor communication are you talking about?Is collecting huge funds in three days possible without good communication?.

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June 07, 2017, 11:40:46 AM
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Thank you to all our supporters!

Please feel free to keep up the discussion about Cofound.it - I'm not going anywhere, but it might take me a while to answer.
Congratulations to cofound for this achievement.
It ensures that CFI tokens will not be sold below ico price because all investors will get tokens at same price without any additional bonus to early ico investors.
Nobody will sell it below the price the get ')

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June 07, 2017, 04:09:09 PM
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In my opinion these people are idiots - totally disorganised ICO and not clear at all

It sold out in the pre-sale from what I hear...though they said it would open at 11am EST today

Capping their funds like that is the height of stupidity...they could have easily tripled their money if they stuck by their word

I view this organisation as disorganised and lacking common sense

You're saying they should've rised $37.5m for 25%. So that means Cofound value is $150m. Wouldn't that be overvalued?

Yeah, just sale your shares if its hitting 300 mio marketcap. Wait and hodl some months

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June 07, 2017, 05:11:12 PM
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They raised the targeted funds in 3 days, whh should they have dragged it till a whole month just to get more than they needed?.
What poor communication are you talking about?Is collecting huge funds in three days possible without good communication?.

IMHO, 3 days is a silly window to raise funds, and they will have definitely cut themselves short.

There can be plenty of legitimate reasons why someone who is extremely active and interested in the tech may be unable to invest in the 3 days.

A better window could have been 1 week, or 2 weeks at a push. We don't need to drag out for a month.

As for communication, the initial signpost to their priority pass was buried deep in a blog post....

Anyway, it is what it is, plenty of other ICOs out there





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Hi,

all good points, kadscuk! This was the initial experiment and we'll definitely be building upon what we have learned from our example. The next Premium Pass opportunities will be better.
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Hi,

all good points, kadscuk! This was the initial experiment and we'll definitely be building upon what we have learned from our example. The next Premium Pass opportunities will be better.

What do you mean by Premium Pass opportunities. Could you elaborate?
Who get that privilege? ICONOMI ICO particitpants or COFOUND ICO participants?



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Hey,

we don’t have the specifics worked out yet. We’ll be using the results of our crowdsale to optimise the process. But it was definitely not a one-shot deal - you have not missed anything yet (except on our pre-sale, of course).
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ICN went up 30% after cofoundit successful ICO. ICN hold 10% of Cofoundit token which is worth $5,656,500 but 30% gain add $32,113,937 to the market cap of ICN. Which mean Cofoundit token value will have high chances to gain 500-600% in near future.   
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They raised the targeted funds in 3 days, whh should they have dragged it till a whole month just to get more than they needed?.
What poor communication are you talking about?Is collecting huge funds in three days possible without good communication?.

IMHO, 3 days is a silly window to raise funds, and they will have definitely cut themselves short.

There can be plenty of legitimate reasons why someone who is extremely active and interested in the tech may be unable to invest in the 3 days.

A better window could have been 1 week, or 2 weeks at a push. We don't need to drag out for a month.

As for communication, the initial signpost to their priority pass was buried deep in a blog post....

Anyway, it is what it is, plenty of other ICOs out there







Well, what abt BAT and Aragon. Gone in a Jiffy but Cofound continued for 3 days. As for communications, if u have signed up in their mailing list, you already have participated. But I guess, you are angry since you missed the crowdsale. Dont worry, there are more to come...

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I participated in the crowdsale. It was wondering what the eta on receiving CFI into my MEW wallet is?
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A matter of days. But we want to triple check everything.
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A matter of days. But we want to triple check everything.

Will we see any exchange announcement right after distribution  Cheesy

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They raised the targeted funds in 3 days, whh should they have dragged it till a whole month just to get more than they needed?.
What poor communication are you talking about?Is collecting huge funds in three days possible without good communication?.

IMHO, 3 days is a silly window to raise funds, and they will have definitely cut themselves short.

There can be plenty of legitimate reasons why someone who is extremely active and interested in the tech may be unable to invest in the 3 days.

A better window could have been 1 week, or 2 weeks at a push. We don't need to drag out for a month.

As for communication, the initial signpost to their priority pass was buried deep in a blog post....

Anyway, it is what it is, plenty of other ICOs out there


"As for communication, the initial signpost to their priority pass was buried deep in a blog post...."   Thats not true... I was informed by the newsletter.


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A matter of days. But we want to triple check everything.

Will we see any exchange announcement right after distribution  Cheesy

My guess, Kraken or Polo might list it. As well as Bittrex. Any way the CFI IOU token is already listed in the hitbtc market. Remember the team does not encourage in dealing with IOU..

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The cofound team has distributed Cofound tokens to the Presale participants. However, the token is locked and cannot be transferred.

How to check ur token in ur wallet. Contract Address: 0x12FEF5e57bF45873Cd9B62E9DBd7BFb99e32D73e




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Hi,

no need for this - our pull request was accepted and MEW now shows CFI out of the box.

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Congratulations on a successful ICO, I was too late but I wish all investors the best of luck and I will be following this project very closely.

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i got my CFI   -))
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CFI tokens distributed. Use the following info if you didn't see tokens in your wallet.
Viewing your token balance in your wallet

If you use MyEtherWallet to access your wallet, go to the "View Wallet" Info tab to unlock your wallet. You should see your CFI token balance in the "Token Balances" section. If it doesn't appear automatically, click the "Add Custom Token" button, and enter the following attributes in the form:
Address: 0x12FEF5e57bF45873Cd9B62E9DBd7BFb99e32D73e
Token Symbol: CFI
Decimals: 18
If you use Mist, click the "Contracts" tab, and find the section "Custom Tokens". Click the "Watch Token" button, and fill in the form with the following attributes:
Token Contract Address: 0x12FEF5e57bF45873Cd9B62E9DBd7BFb99e32D73e
Token Name: CFI
Decimals Places of Smallest Unit: 18

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I got my CFIs too. Now waiting for exchanges. As stated in the email it could take about 2 weeks.

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when will the tokens be unlocked?
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when will the tokens be unlocked?

"Token trading will unlock in about two weeks. We'll send you another email when this happens, along with the names of supported exchanges."

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Excited for this coin to hit the exchanges...
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X8currency is designed to substantially raise the bar in stability and safety for investors globally. This token will be 100% asset-backed with assets placed in Swiss financial architecture. The crowdsale managed by Cofound.it is coming soon. You are invited to share your thoughts and opinions with us, as there is still time to fine-tune some details. Any feedback will be much appreciated. To learn more about us visit our site at https://x8currency.com/ or talk with our team on slack: https://x8currency.herokuapp.com/



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CFI trading will start on Monday, June 19th, at noon Pacific time, on Bittrex, Liqui and Gatecoin. Tokens will be unlocked two hours before so they can be moved to exchanges.
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CFI trading will start on Monday, June 19th, at noon Pacific time, on Bittrex, Liqui and Gatecoin. Tokens will be unlocked two hours before so they can be moved to exchanges.

Great!
Thanks Jan.

I thought you left Bitcointalk again  Tongue

I hope we'll see exciting updates about new projects soon  Smiley

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I didn't Smiley but there were no questions, so I just lurked.
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I didn't Smiley but there were no questions, so I just lurked.

Smooth process, didn't leave any question  Cheesy
What about the game about the hubs, when it will be finished? Smiley

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We're using it to drive hubs recognition. Will come in handy when David, our head of global, starts visiting potential spots around the globe Smiley so we'll keep running it for some time.
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June 16, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
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More big news: we've evolved the Cofound.it Priority pass - https://blog.cofound.it/cofound-it-priority-pass-your-priority-ticket-to-the-best-crowdsales-736f85b9ceeb

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Cofound.it Priority Pass: your priority ticket to the best crowdsales


We introduced the Cofound.it Priority Pass as a way to give engaged supporters early access to our own crowdsale. Your response has been amazing: Priority Pass members fully funded our pre-sale in just two days with a great mix of small and large supporters.

We’re now excited to share details on how Priority Pass will unlock your priority access to upcoming crowdsales — and how you can become a Priority Pass member even if you missed the Cofound.it pre-sale.




Cofound.it Priority Pass for upcoming Cofound.it projects

For the Santiment crowdsale, all wallet addresses that have been added to the Cofound.it pre-sale whitelist will be able to participate in the Santiment pre-sale as well. No further action is required on your part.

We also have exciting news for those of you who learned about our Priority Pass too late to apply. Starting with X8 Currency and Musiconomi in July, Cofound.it Priority Pass will be available to all that hold more than 5,000 CFI tokens in their wallet at a specified time before the crowdsale — whether you have received them as part of our pre-sale or bought at an exchange.

The cut-off time will be a few days before the respective crowdsales and will be communicated ahead of time so that everybody can ensure their supply of CFI tokens. We’ll announce a website for checking your wallet’s Priority Pass eligibility in the coming weeks.


Introducing Cofound.it Priority Pass for all quality projects

The goal of the Priority Pass is to provide opportunities for engaged supporters and ensure a good distribution for the projects. That is why we are opening Cofound.it Priority Pass to all projects that pass our verification process.

Our strict verification and selection criteria will still apply, but Cofound.it will not mentor the projects. We will publish an evaluation blog post on each project (examples of previous evaluations include WeTrust and Golem), so you can learn more about them in advance.

We are already in talks with several great projects and are looking for more. If you have a great project and would like to offer priority access to your crowdsale to our engaged community of Cofound.it Priority Pass members, send us an email at pp@cofound.it to get the evaluation process started.

If you’d like to learn more about the Priority Pass and connect with 2,000+ other engaged supporters, you are always welcome to join our public Slack.

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June 16, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
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I am at loss of words to commend how efficient this cofound teams is.They got it on big exchanges with in month of their token distribution.Bittrex will take CFI to moon and I am happy to see this.
I guess tokens will be unlocked by Monday?

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June 16, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
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Yes - on Monday 2 hours before the trading starts so everyone can get ready.
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June 16, 2017, 03:02:34 PM
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how much cost one token in btc?

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June 16, 2017, 10:22:47 PM
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I am at loss of words to commend how efficient this cofound teams is...
yes I'm very happy with the people around the team, since cashila, through iconomi to cofoundit, they all have my full trust!
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June 17, 2017, 01:10:39 PM
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What are your prediction price on launch?
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June 17, 2017, 06:01:02 PM
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What are your prediction price on launch?


Should be around 0.0003400 to 0.0005500. This calculation is based on recent rally of Iconomi. Close to 100% gain after cofoundit successfull ICO.
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June 17, 2017, 08:38:32 PM
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What are your prediction price on launch?


Should be around 0.0003400 to 0.0005500. This calculation is based on recent rally of Iconomi. Close to 100% gain after cofoundit successfull ICO.
Yes this is very moderate prediction but given that cfi token didnt reach many peoples hand because all tokens sold in pre sale,do not be surprised to se 10000 satoshi price
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What are your prediction price on launch?


Should be around 0.0003400 to 0.0005500. This calculation is based on recent rally of Iconomi. Close to 100% gain after cofoundit successfull ICO.
Yes this is very moderate prediction but given that cfi token didnt reach many peoples hand because all tokens sold in pre sale,do not be surprised to se 10000 satoshi price

Less 1 zero at the back. It should be 0.00034000 to 0.00055000. I think the price will really stay around there due to end of this month 2 ICO that will be done by cofoundit.
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June 17, 2017, 10:22:52 PM
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do you know the ico price please ?

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June 18, 2017, 11:56:55 AM
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do you know the ico price please ?

56,565 ETH collected for 125m CFI token during the pre-sale period.

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June 19, 2017, 07:26:37 AM
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com


Actually it would be a real deal if you give some percent of ICOs to CFI holders(by dividends or buy backs)
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June 19, 2017, 09:45:33 AM
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Cofound.it @cofound_it CFI tokens listed on Liqui‏ ( BTC, ETH and USDT markets ). Trading starts as soon as tokens become transferable.

https://liqui.io/#/exchange/CFI_BTC
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June 19, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
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They said it would be on Bittrex also but it is not listed on bittrex.They lied

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June 19, 2017, 12:10:37 PM
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They said it would be on Bittrex also but it is not listed on bittrex.They lied

Monday is not over yet. It's too early to draw such conclusions.
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June 19, 2017, 12:14:36 PM
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They said it would be on Bittrex also but it is not listed on bittrex.They lied


lol. Go read bittrex twitter. It will be on bittrex Monday.  Only few more hours
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June 19, 2017, 12:18:02 PM
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do you know the ico price please ?


56,565 ETH divide by  125m = 0.00045252 eth per cfi

most probably will sell 0.00135 or more. Given now any ico under Cofound.it must hold 5k cfi to qualified for presale. Supplies will dry up and price will went up...Grab it fast in few hours
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June 19, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
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They said it would be on Bittrex also but it is not listed on bittrex.They lied

Monday is not over yet. It's too early to draw such conclusions.
Yes you are right Monday is not over yet also there were no exact time given by cofound team.Bittrex will decide when they add it.Perhaps they will add when they have peak hours.
do you know the ico price please ?


56,565 ETH divide by  125m = 0.00045252 eth per cfi

most probably will sell 0.00135 or more. Given now any ico under Cofound.it must hold 5k cfi to qualified for presale. Supplies will dry up and price will went up...Grab it fast in few hours
I hope your estimates are true but I think CFI will be somewhere around 30k-40k Satoshi.