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April 02, 2017, 03:56:49 AM
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)

[EDIT: Updated chart below thru to early December (BTC performance now +1700%):



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I greatly recommend bitcoin. with a very rapid price movement, we can take great advantage of margin buying and selling results.
compared to gold and bonds takes longer than bitcoin.

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April 02, 2017, 04:19:34 AM
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)
If I were you I would buy bitcoin since it's price growth is faster than gold and others but if you want to lessen the risk and if you don't trust bitcoin yet, I think it would be good if you would diversify your investments to all of what you mentioned. If you would buy bitcoin, I recommend that you wait a little for a price dump so that you can buy cheaper bitcoins unlike now that bitcoin is table to 1083$ that might go down a little before going up.
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April 02, 2017, 04:28:29 AM
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Obviously you only made this post to compel some people to post repeatedly about how Bitcoin is amazing and everyone should buy Bitcoin and nothing is better than Bitcoin, which seems to be about half the posts on Bitcoin Discussion anyway.

In reality, not everyone has the same circumstances and not everyone should buy the same thing.  Bitcoin is great if you're comfortable with risks, but if you want stability, your only choice is gold.  Bitcoin can't rise exponentially all the time and there have to be legitimate reasons for its rise - the observation that it has risen does not indicate future rises and now that it is worth a lot, its market cap would have to be well over 35 billion dollars for the price to double again, but it's still too small for stability which is why it's known for being so volatile.

If people can't handle the pressure they shouldn't buy, and no one should put all of their money into Bitcoin but instead at least keep a backup for if it ever fails.
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April 02, 2017, 04:31:47 AM
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first of all your timing is wrong starting from 2013 which is clearly in the bubble period and a fake price. you should start at least in 2014-2015 to be after the bubble and inside the real price. you can consider $200 as bottom and $1100ish as current price and make the comparison again!

also as an investment you should always diversify. if real estate is good in your area then do that, if stocks are good then do that, etc on top of investing in bitcoin.

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April 02, 2017, 05:57:15 AM
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Gold is a stable asset and is not only an investment - it should be viewed as safe storage away from fiat currency.

Bitcoin is different because its price is mostly based on its utility.  People can invest and join based on the fact that it should be deflationary, but because Bitcoin's price is mostly based on its utility rather than its physical existence or sentimental value, the price can fluctuate wildly and potentially drop too much if there were ever problems in the network.  It's also important that Bitcoin is young and has not fully matured to be a stable asset yet.

So people should only buy Bitcoin if they can handle the risks and want to enjoy themselves.  Serious investors will rightfully put their money into a variety of different investments rather than just whichever one goes up the most, because if they lose it all it could be very damaging, and with Bitcoin there's a reasonably significant chance of that eventually happening.

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April 02, 2017, 06:29:02 AM
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Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%

only gold and bitcoin are global and its price is moving the same all over the world, other markets you mentioned are country dependent (i admit i don't know what Bonds are!).

for example the Stocks market in my country had a pretty rought year last year and people were losing a lot of money in it. or for example the Real estate market has been bad for the past 6 months to a year but it is very good and profitable in some areas in general in my country.

and as for which to invest in we all obviously know bitcoin has been the most profitable but it also have been the riskier one which needs to be considerd when investing.


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April 02, 2017, 06:39:19 AM
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If I am to choose, I will go for real estate because that I am sure that even if the price falls, my house is till there and I could sell but at the same time the rate of increase in the price of bitcoin is not something anyone could have foresaw as even at at today, no one knows what will happen afterwards in the next hour but hopefully I would share my resources in other to minimize my exposure to risks.

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April 02, 2017, 07:02:20 AM
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If I am to choose, I will go for real estate because that I am sure that even if the price falls, my house is till there and I could sell but at the same time the rate of increase in the price of bitcoin is not something anyone could have foresaw as even at at today, no one knows what will happen afterwards in the next hour but hopefully I would share my resources in other to minimize my exposure to risks.
If here everyone will give his own Review then everyone will give own opinion to choose . Here I myself never choose  real estate Because the risk with the real estate is total non understanding thing for me and Secondly I am not much experienced in this field .
Here I will choose only bitcoin here because I know everything and every logic of the bitcoin to handle it in any way from the profit to more profit and loss to profit .


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April 02, 2017, 07:08:10 AM
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i'm a bit biased but here i always go with bitcoin, it has an enormous potential for the future, people can't think about it now, like it was not possible to think about it when bitcoin was born

but it's the same thing, only a matter of different digit number that will be seen as a result of the greater usage of bitcoin, that is ahead of us

i would not choose any other thing currently, to invest in, bitcoin is all the way for me, and its decentralization prevent it from dying(in value) actually, many haven't realize it yet...

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April 02, 2017, 07:42:29 AM
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Bitcoin for (relatively) short term. But to really go long and (if you know what youre doing) safe...I'd say real estate. Remember, God ain't making any more 😁. Gold can be funky too...sometimes people seem to forget that. And gold can be harder to hide and/or sell. Liquidity is king!
 Buy, rent, have tenants pay mortgage, repeat and then sell in 30 years or keep renting for income.
Full disclosure: all my speculation is biased. Also, where you live would obviously need to be factored into the equation if you're thinking real estate
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April 02, 2017, 08:04:30 AM
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which one to buy is never a simple question with a simple answer.
there are traders who are making millions by trading Gold, meanwhile there are others who bought gold and lost money! and the same goes for anything else.

where you live and also when you want to get in and how long you plan on holding are the questions that needs answering.

bitcoin is obviously a good choice since it is like buying stocks of a big company like facebook or google when it was super cheap and nobody know what they were. so obviously there is a lot of growth potential there when it comes to long term.














 

 

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April 02, 2017, 11:18:19 AM
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A house.

You need to live somewhere - so if you are not paying a mortgage, you are paying rent.

The feeling you get when you have paid off your mortgage is fantastic - suddenly you have your shelter sorted, which means your disposable income rises (no mortgage or rent to pay) and you can take more risks (work part time, and so on).

Always sort your shelter first, and then move on to other investments.

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April 02, 2017, 11:58:24 AM
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Well for me if you've got enough for buying a house & lot , go buy with it already. It's the best investment, the increase of the value of where you home is standing is guaranteed.

But if you don't have enough for purchasing with it, go with bitcoin the growth is very quick.

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April 02, 2017, 12:18:55 PM
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Regardless of the figures you have stated in the OP, it all depends on the level of your capital and how much risk you are willing to expose yourself to. In most cases people with the largest capitals tend to choose a relatively lower risk investment opportunity. In this case a large initial investment can still yield you decent profits even though the ROI is just 3-5%. Bitcoin on the other hand is a high risk investment, which lends itself perfectly for lower initial investments as the returns that you can gain are (in potential) higher than everything else.

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April 02, 2017, 01:21:11 PM
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dont forget bitcoin's price action between 2014 - 2016.

No reason why this cant happen again







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April 02, 2017, 01:36:34 PM
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Thank you MarkJ.

Regardless of the figures you have stated in the OP, it all depends on the level of your capital and how much risk you are willing to expose yourself to. In most cases people with the largest capitals tend to choose a relatively lower risk investment opportunity. In this case a large initial investment can still yield you decent profits even though the ROI is just 3-5%. Bitcoin on the other hand is a high risk investment, which lends itself perfectly for lower initial investments as the returns that you can gain are (in potential) higher than everything else.

Thank you, that is a good point, apply capital on a risk-weighted basis.

On that subject of risk, what is everyone's thoughts on limiting bitcoin's risk brought up in these two posts?
"Hacks & puppets & forks - how to destroy bitcoin": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1834310.0

 "How give scaling & buy coffee with Pokemon Go or Gold or Stocks or ...please?": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851655.0

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April 02, 2017, 01:49:07 PM
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I greatly recommend bitcoin. with a very rapid price movement, we can take great advantage of margin buying and selling results.
compared to gold and bonds takes longer than bitcoin.
The advise is good but consider the fact that the entry is really important to make some profit and you have to enter at the best time possible ,it is true that bitcoin is the most profitable source of investment when you compare everything and it is simply because it is the new kid in the block and it has expanded its potential pretty soon. Smiley

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April 02, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
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It is always safe to divide risk.
So having some strong resistance in safest one, real estate is great.
I think gold has already finished its profitable phase, I left it completely personally.
stocks are all about your home country, if your home country goes really bad and in crash phase, it is good to buy strong stocks for future.
And for fun, always invest a bit in bitcoin. Bitcoin teaches you huge lessons in economy, so quickly (cause of its highly manipulative structure)

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April 02, 2017, 03:06:47 PM
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dont forget bitcoin's price action between 2014 - 2016.

No reason why this cant happen again




It's starting to look like a proper handle.

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