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April 04, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
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OP, what's with the [citation needed] stuff?  Did you copy/paste this or something, or are you writing a wiki article or what?  Just curious.

I just don't want to be labeled plagiarizing or whatever. The content is true but I don't have the source so I just placed "[citation needed]"  Grin
Not copy pasted nor I am writing a wiki article.

Just random thoughts. Not posted to ban bitcoin or whatever, just viewing bitcoins capability at some point.

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April 04, 2017, 05:03:09 PM
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It is what it is and it's up to people how to use everything either for good or for bad and bitcoin is not exception, do you really think criminals and terrorists wait for you to develop something like bitcoin to conduct their businesses? no I'm sure they find their own ways.
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April 04, 2017, 05:03:28 PM
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i do not consider that bitcoin is crime or terrorism its just a digital currency and which use for online transaction and and all bitcoin users is very satisfy from bitcoin and all people supporting bitcoin and no one thin negative about bitcoin.
yeah we can not say that bitcoin is a crime because bitcoin is a crypto currency and bitcoin aimed is to use it for online shopping so no one can be says that bitcoin is crime.

You cannot consider bitcoin as a crime nor terrorism, it is a digital currency and sometimes, it is used for crimes and it is not the crime itself. The thread does not said that bitcoin is a crime and terrorism, it just shows the usage of bitcoin on such actions.

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April 04, 2017, 05:24:48 PM
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It is what it is and it's up to people how to use everything either for good or for bad and bitcoin is not exception, do you really think criminals and terrorists wait for you to develop something like bitcoin to conduct their businesses? no I'm sure they find their own ways.

You hit it.
That is very true. They just want to blame it to bitcoin to make it bad.
True that there will be bad intentions for it seeing it being anonymous they will be hard to track.
They will just have to pay little by little where they wont need to send information about them with the limitations of some wallets.
Now that is getting larger in price, it will be more easier for them. They wont need hard cash.
I have experience once about this so I think it is true although there is just a few.

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April 07, 2017, 10:51:31 PM
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This had been discussed so many times, you can hide your identity when using bitcoin but it is still traceable, and linking bitcoin with crimes and terrorism is a bit absurd, bitcoin can be used to trade weapon or ransomware because it is valuable, same thing with fiat, because of this wrong publicity, it is very difficult for us to recruit new user
Indeed, you're right pal! this is nothing difference in money laundering topic, I just don't where does I read that in the forum section. But I will still answer it, bitcoin was very open to anyone and it is not design to use for a bad activities but it we have to admit that it can be use for legal and illegal purposes, but let us not abuse the good reputation it has in terms of business.

                                 
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April 07, 2017, 11:58:17 PM
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The US dollar is the mos used currency in these kind of activities. Although the nature of BTC makes is attractive to a new breed of criminals.
In the end karma will win, although I believe bitcoin as it stands, can be improved.

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April 08, 2017, 04:14:10 AM
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because characteristics bitcoin is  currency or as a medium of exchange for the bitcoin transactions are also not much different from fiat currencies. the purchase of drugs, prostitution and criminal are still many who use fiat currencies. not a problem in bitcoin or curency, but a moral man to commit a crime is one that must be resolved together, or perhaps if the dev of bitcoin can help the UN to track and suppress crime in the world.

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April 08, 2017, 05:46:33 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.
This is not new because even the fiat is being used in doing illegal transactions, but bitcoin is more prone to that illegal transactions because of the feature of being anonymous. I don't think that bitcoin anonymity is a good feature because it is more on a bad side than a good side which the criminals can take advantage of. I hope the team will do something to make bitcoins transactions at least traceable for government authorities.

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April 08, 2017, 05:47:45 PM
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You stated it right. It's really up to the person that has the coin to do whatever he or she wants with it. There was and is many different methods that allow terrorists and criminals to pay for certain things online while staying low-key or anonymous. Bitcoin is only a beta program so it isn't perfect and if the people that was doing those bad things were caught then they definitely wasn't using Bitcoin correctly. The media likes over exaggerating certain things about Bitcoin, nothing new though.

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I think Bitcoin is not that anonymous, I read some articel (can't remember the title) said that FBI can even trace those Bitcoin that was transacted using mixers, so lots of illegal activities now are into real anon coins when it comes to their transaction.  It can be used to support terrorist but Bitcoin will only compromise their activities.  And I guess terrorist already know that



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April 08, 2017, 06:45:39 PM
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i do not consider that bitcoin is crime or terrorism its just a digital currency and which use for online transaction and and all bitcoin users is very satisfy from bitcoin and all people supporting bitcoin and no one thin negative about bitcoin.
yeah we can not say that bitcoin is a crime because bitcoin is a crypto currency and bitcoin aimed is to use it for online shopping so no one can be says that bitcoin is crime.

You cannot consider bitcoin as a crime nor terrorism, it is a digital currency and sometimes, it is used for crimes and it is not the crime itself. The thread does not said that bitcoin is a crime and terrorism, it just shows the usage of bitcoin on such actions.
Thats the point I think, bitcoin is not even close to any kind of crime: the blockchain is great technology which can be implemented in many sections of financial sector.
I also got up on an interesting idea, because fiat has obvious inflation and bitcoin doesnt , it means that terrorist groups and organized crime gangs can simply buy it to store later: as they do with gold, or properties.
Bitcoin for them is even better than gold, and the reason is that the police can find storage with their precious bars, but they won't have an idea where the private keys to their btc are stored.

We need to remember that the big part of bitcoin transactions are payment for ordinary thing, which is great because we need more and more people into the cryptocurrency range.
Im still waiting for bitcoin to break next barier, and see what is going to happen Smiley














 

 

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April 09, 2017, 12:31:32 AM
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Great crime ideas are co-opted by criminals.

Las Vegas casino-hotels in the 1940s were great tools for laundering money, pimping prostitutes, receiving stolen merchandise and more for crime families. The government eventually realized that purpose and heaped legislation and oversight on to casino operations. Bitcoin is a great crime idea that was not only co-opted by criminals but started by Silk Road. Legislation to follow.

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April 09, 2017, 12:33:38 AM
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If you can't buy weapons and drugs with something, it's a terrible currency.

Every single currency known to men can buy weapons and drugs.

In fact, bitcoin is easier to trace than most currencies (if you don't pay with credit cards or digital transactions.

'terrorism' is just some buzz-word the governments use to get people to do what the government wants them to do, because oh no, 'terrorists' are bad.

Every government needs some invisible enemies they can 'fight' so they can unite their citizens against this invisible enemy and control them.

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April 09, 2017, 02:33:56 AM
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Yes you are right.Bitcoins anonimity is being abuse by people who is doing illegal activities online or even in person.Just like silkroad in the deepweb,they offer guns drugs and gun for hires in exchange of bitcoins.But we cannot control this thing since bitcoins is a currency and it can be use in many different ways depending on how the user will use it.
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April 09, 2017, 02:39:49 AM
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the initial goal the use of bitcoin is to facilitate all financial activities humans. when people use bitcoin for negative actions such as crime then the person is a person who can not maximize the use of bitcoin. they are the people who are not lucky.

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April 10, 2017, 01:48:28 AM
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We all know that bitcoin has a lot of good features and uses but there will be always disadvantages. Bitcoin related crimes are unavoidable and all what we can do is lessen it. Preventing it is very difficult because we all know that even fiat currencies are also used in illeggal activities that has never been stopped. That is part of reality so just accept it.
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There's no such thing as untraceable in todays age, the tech people, developers and security researchers will surely find a way to trace those people whose using it illegally.
And since the beginning of it's creation bitcoin was first widely use in darknets and deepwebs for illegal purchasing of stuffs then people from the world wide web started to discover it because of it's awesomeness. If you ask me nothing has really change for bitcoin.






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There's no such thing as untraceable in todays age, the tech people, developers and security researchers will surely find a way to trace those people whose using it illegally.
And since the beginning of it's creation bitcoin was first widely use in darknets and deepwebs for illegal purchasing of stuffs then people from the world wide web started to discover it because of it's awesomeness. If you ask me nothing has really change for bitcoin.

There is such thing that still untraceable today, Please do a research first before you give this kind of opinion. I will some example for this, If you are familiar to Anonymous group and their activities you will realize that you don't have a point for saying such things like this, There group always attacks government website and database but still they are not been identified and arrested, They are using advance stealth mode to cover their location/IP address so that even though US government will not detect them. The innovation on this world is limitless, So if the tracing system will be upgrade then stealth mode will be upgraded too.

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April 10, 2017, 02:32:32 AM
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Bitcoin related crimes are unavoidable and all what we can do is lessen it.
At least more people should be realized if another kind of the currency that other currencies have also used for the criminal purpose. It's the important thing that needs to be considered as a counter, to prevent those are blaming the bitcoin itself.
Preventing it is very difficult because we all know that even fiat currencies are also used in illeggal activities that has never been stopped. That is part of reality so just accept it.
Except for the government, some of the ministers with a harsh head should still be said the bitcoin is the criminal currency or used to the criminal activities.

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April 10, 2017, 02:59:07 AM
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Bitcoin related crimes are unavoidable and all what we can do is lessen it.
At least more people should be realized if another kind of the currency that other currencies have also used for the criminal purpose. It's the important thing that needs to be considered as a counter, to prevent those are blaming the bitcoin itself.

only those people who aren't really aware of what is happening in the world would think that. and sometimes media, although not directly, implies that bitcoin is criminal money.
they never say it out loud, it is a propaganda, they keep releasing news that bitcoin was used by some hacker as ransom, used by someone to buy drugs, etc. they never report millions used it to do other things.


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