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April 02, 2017, 06:34:38 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.

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April 02, 2017, 06:49:40 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.
We had this discussion so many times. The first time it was probably on the day Bitcoin was created. It always boils down to this.
- Bitcoin is not anonymous. especially if you don't know what you're doing. But it is very hard to trace if you know what you're doing.
- It is pretty much the same with cash and nobody seems to see these points with cash. O wait they just started to notice it and are pushing for a cashless society so we can be controlled better. One more reason to use Bitcoin.
- Bitcoin is a tool. It is neither intrinsic bad or good. It depends on how people use it. It is the same with a knife. A knife is a tool. Most people do good things with knifes and it helps many people with their daily life. But you could also use it for bad things like killing someone. Still nobody would want to forbid knifes.

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April 02, 2017, 07:08:51 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.
Depending on the person/company who is using bitcoins.Yeah for all people anonimity is an advantage.An advantage that can be use in illegal and legal things.You're anonymous so you are free to spend and buy all you want illegal or legal.And in terrorism yes this happens bitcoins are  being used to buy guns and drugs thats why some country banned bitcoin due to massive terrorism in their country caused by bitcoins and people can buy anonymously

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April 02, 2017, 07:28:22 AM
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This had been discussed so many times, you can hide your identity when using bitcoin but it is still traceable, and linking bitcoin with crimes and terrorism is a bit absurd, bitcoin can be used to trade weapon or ransomware because it is valuable, same thing with fiat, because of this wrong publicity, it is very difficult for us to recruit new user

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April 02, 2017, 07:41:48 AM
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This had been discussed so many times, you can hide your identity when using bitcoin but it is still traceable, and linking bitcoin with crimes and terrorism is a bit absurd, bitcoin can be used to trade weapon or ransomware because it is valuable, same thing with fiat, because of this wrong publicity, it is very difficult for us to recruit new user
Such negative feedback or the negativity spreading is the one that makes the decreased adoption of bitcoin as well make people hesitant in using it. Bitcoin usage in terrorism is not that high compared to the usage of dollars for terrorism and other illegal needs.

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April 02, 2017, 07:45:51 AM
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In some point of time, Bitcoin's usability will always boil down to 2 points, the good and bad use of it. Like cash, it will always depend on the person who has it, whether he will use it to some good deed or to a devastating act. We cannot limit it. But that will not hinder other people to use it if they just know what's the true value of it. Proper dissemination of knowledge about BTC is very important to emphasize its good use.

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April 02, 2017, 07:52:51 AM
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This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.

Actually, we have been using bitcoins the way we want it to as early as 2010, right when it started to gain more and more value, be it for legit purposes or shady activities, bitcoin is being treated and used as cash, the way it was intended to be in the first place. As time progresses, we are seeing more and more usage for bitcoin and that's not only the money as it what's intended to be.

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April 02, 2017, 07:54:07 AM
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Cash can be used for all of this. Ban cash!

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April 02, 2017, 07:59:35 AM
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"can be used" or "someone is using it to..." doesn't mean bitcoin is being used for all that you said.

and as all of them other thousand topics about this say, criminals will never choose bitcoin which stores ALL of the transactions on a public ledger for everyone to see!
instead they simply use CASH which is accepted everywhere with no problem and is untraceable.














 

 

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April 02, 2017, 08:02:31 AM
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it depends on the people on how they use the bitcoins .bitcoins has been made for anonymity but still it can be traced , well terrorists dont understand that they will never become rich or by possessing any guns would not make them any power, still would they be caught.well getting drugs they are harming themselves which is not advisable at all.

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April 02, 2017, 08:11:09 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.
Depending on the person/company who is using bitcoins.Yeah for all people anonimity is an advantage.An advantage that can be use in illegal and legal things.You're anonymous so you are free to spend and buy all you want illegal or legal.And in terrorism yes this happens bitcoins are  being used to buy guns and drugs thats why some country banned bitcoin due to massive terrorism in their country caused by bitcoins and people can buy anonymously
That are right words and I'm totally agree. I this anonimity can turn bad to bitcoin and some countries with high level of terroristic activity can simply just block bitcoin and admit it as illegal.

   
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You are right but not in my opinion , let's think . What was happening in the year before of 2008 when bitcoin was not takes birth .
At that time  no gambling , no secret payment , no deals in drungs , no online business etc , you know that everything was also possible before the investion of the bitcoin and also everything is possible after investion of the bitcoin .
So to blam as t bitcoin for such activities is not good :/ .
Well here everyone have own opinion I can't stop anyone to think about the bitcoin in this way .


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April 02, 2017, 08:18:09 AM
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Cash can be used for all of this. Ban cash!

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April 02, 2017, 08:18:55 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.
Just like US Dollars used also for illegal activities,bitcoin is also used for illegal activities.It depends only on the person who uses bitcoin for good or bad.Bitcoin is such a marvelous creation of satoshi.Just like internet is used for both good and bad,bitcoin is also used.
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Bitcoin is just a tool, a.currency that can be used in any way a user may like. Please do not blame it if terrorists uses it for illegal activist and terrorists acts. Cash can be used as such as well and even more untraceable than bitcoin.


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Bitcoin has nothing to do with crimes and terrorism,it's the person that uses it is the one that should be blame,satoshi did not even create bitcoin thinking of this things,he just want a freedom from this banking system,and besides they can still use other form of payment besides bitcoin it's just on bitcoin there's no third party.

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This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.

not only bitcoin, you can use youre money fiat money you anything you want
you want crime not only use bitcoin , you can anything crime use another curency
so do not blame bitcoin , its wrong only person, not all bitcoin user

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April 02, 2017, 08:56:13 AM
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Bitcoin's anonymity is really a great characteristic. It enables users to use BTC in any transactions with nearly no traces. But is this really a good thing? Let us consider utilizing bitcoin in a negative way. Since bitcoin is considered currency, there is no doubt that a person that needs money will not reject bitcoin even if it involves unethical or illegal act.

Due to the anonymity of bitcoin, some uses bitcoin in a negative way [citation needed]. They can easily use bitcoin in paying others to commit crimes. They can even use bitcoin in bribery and/or money laundering. This characteristic of bitcoin are abused [citation needed] and it will never end well.

For the case of terrorism, terrorist can easily purchase weaponry from other country. With the use of transaction using bitcoin, authorities will have a hard time tracing that transaction thus, will give advantage to the side of terrorists.

This is not an impossible scenario. People can now use bitcoin in any way they want to. It's inevitable.

True, but then think about it. You could be using cash to fund terrorism as well.

It's not just bitcoin's fault that it is used for illegal activities. Otherwise you'd be also blaming the government for issuing notes that don't have tracking on them, so that money laundering and bribing and other whatevers can happen, using the government printed money.

No, it's not bitcoin's fault.

People can use cash however they want to as well, are you going to say that cash is bad too?

Think about the merits of bitcoin instead of focusing on the negatives. As a seller on the internet i know for a fact that whenever someone sends me a bitcoin payment, there is no need to worry about chargebacks. But when I accept paypal, i have to do background checks on the person to see his previous trades and whether his paypal matches with his story.

Bitcoin is completely interchangeable. 1 bitcoin from you is 1 bitcoin from someone that might not be as trustworthy.

But Paypal, it's different. Credit card payments and paypal, their value differs from the person that you receive it from, because someone you don't trust you're probabyl going to charge them higher rates in paypal or CC terms.














 

 

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April 02, 2017, 12:19:23 PM
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I'm afraid is inevitable. We can't control what other's will do with bitcoin specially using it in terrorism, illegal drugs or illegal activities. Just like what terrorist are also doing in the Internet. They are using social media to run fund raising campaign, online recruitment. More so, terrorist group have their own websites to share their propaganda. Can you blame Internet then? If the government want to track them, then can used blockchain to help them piece vital connection and their movement. Its not bitcoin, or Satoshi's fault.

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Bitcoin has nothing to do with crimes and terrorism,it's the person that uses it is the one that should be blame,satoshi did not even create bitcoin thinking of this things,he just want a freedom from this banking system,and besides they can still use other form of payment besides bitcoin it's just on bitcoin there's no third party.
i like your sentiment mate, as bitcoin really created for good not for this types of actions, its just those who really taking advantage of this system, we can't control people's mind as they knew that btc is just like a fiat that they can easily deal with, so they can use it whenever they want whatever the purpose for them.

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