I was hoping Trump would come out and admit

[awesome31312]

That it was all an April Fools Joke

Alas, we are stuck for another four years.

Not that Clinton would have been any better.

[Moloch]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

[darkseid1199]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

I will not be surprised if the DNC forces Hilary on the people again. Her time is gone and over. Apart fro Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders there isn't anyone who can successfully challenge Trump.

[Moloch]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

I will not be surprised if the DNC forces Hilary on the people again. Her time is gone and over. Apart fro Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders there isn't anyone who can successfully challenge Trump.

They can't

Go ahead and google, "the most popular politicians in America", and tell me if you see any names besides Bernie Sanders
here's a link
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+popular+politicians+in+america&*

In 2015, nobody knew who Bernie was... they kept him out of the media, only held 3 debates, all on satuday nights, etc... so nobody would know who he was or what he stood for

But now in 2017, everyone knows who Bernie is, and they wish they had voted for him...

They simply could not use the same tactics

[Spendulus]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

I will not be surprised if the DNC forces Hilary on the people again. Her time is gone and over. Apart fro Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders there isn't anyone who can successfully challenge Trump.

They can't

Go ahead and google, "the most popular politicians in America", and tell me if you see any names besides Bernie Sanders
here's a link
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+popular+politicians+in+america&*

In 2015, nobody knew who Bernie was... they kept him out of the media, only held 3 debates, all on satuday nights, etc... so nobody would know who he was or what he stood for

But now in 2017, everyone knows who Bernie is, and they wish they had voted for him...

They simply could not use the same tactics

For 2020 Trump will have split the Rust Belt off. It will not vote Democratic. The Demos have lost the coal miners, and they are likely going to lose some of the unions.

You think you can push personality? How about some actual progress on things that matter to people? Is combating Trump a useful end in and of itself?

I think it is not, you have to have a better plan, and you don't. And stop talking about tired, old, worn out white faces as if they will be salvation. You guys really need to get rid of that tired dog Pelosi, send Warren back to the reservation, and maybe get some one of the high tech corporations leaders into the fray. But you won't. We'll see the same gangster faces yet again telling the same lies.

For 2016, Americans of Republican/Independent/Democrat leanings voted for a Republican who was not really a Republican.

That's worth mulling over. Is old-style "us vs them" Demo vs Repub conceptualization and casting of issues obsolete? I think this guy Trump will be in for eight years.

[Moloch]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

I will not be surprised if the DNC forces Hilary on the people again. Her time is gone and over. Apart fro Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders there isn't anyone who can successfully challenge Trump.

They can't

Go ahead and google, "the most popular politicians in America", and tell me if you see any names besides Bernie Sanders
here's a link
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+popular+politicians+in+america&*

In 2015, nobody knew who Bernie was... they kept him out of the media, only held 3 debates, all on satuday nights, etc... so nobody would know who he was or what he stood for

But now in 2017, everyone knows who Bernie is, and they wish they had voted for him...

They simply could not use the same tactics

For 2020 Trump will have split the Rust Belt off. It will not vote Democratic. The Demos have lost the coal miners, and they are likely going to lose some of the unions.

You think you can push personality? How about some actual progress on things that matter to people? Is combating Trump a useful end in and of itself?

I think it is not, you have to have a better plan, and you don't. And stop talking about tired, old, worn out white faces as if they will be salvation.

Bernie isn't popular because people like old balding white men... he's popular because people like what he says (people who actually listen to it)

Bernie got a group of coal miners in West Virginia (way red) to cheer for him
Bernie Sanders Wins Over Crowd Of Rural Trump Supporters By Exposing The Truth About Trumpcare
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/13/bernie-sanders-storms-deep-red-west-virginia-convinces-trump-voters-conned.html

In this country today, the top one-tenth of one percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Unbelievably, 20 Americans now own as much wealth as the bottom half of America. One family, the Walton family, owns more wealth than the bottom 42 percent. And in the last 17 years, while the middle class continues to decline, we have seen a tenfold increase in the number of billionaires – going from 51 to 565. Meanwhile, 43 million people live in poverty.

For years, net neutrality has prohibited big Internet corporations from favoring or blocking certain viewpoints or websites. It really is simple—whether you are rich, poor, young or old, the Internet allows all people to seek out information and communicate globally. Now the Trump administration wants to reverse these protections, yet another example of favoring corporate interests over the interests of the American people. We must not let private corporations turn bigger and bigger profits by putting a price tag on the free flow of ideas, and diminishing our democracy in the process.

Remember: defeating Republicans’ disgusting "health care" plan was just the start. Our job is to keep fighting for affordable health care for everyone. Our job is to move this nation to a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. We're the only major nation that doesn't guarantee health care to all of our people. Think about that. We can do better then just avoiding destruction of our health care system. We can join the rest of the industrialized world, carry out Teddy Roosevelt's, FDR's and Harry Truman's vision and guarantee all people the right to health care that they deserve as human beings.

https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/

[Alexzap]

That it was all an April Fools Joke

Alas, we are stuck for another four years.

Not that Clinton would have been any better.

And I still hope for impeachment. That crap where every day is bathed Trump can purepacket all of America. I hope that in order to understand it won't need as much as four years.

[Spendulus]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

I will not be surprised if the DNC forces Hilary on the people again. Her time is gone and over. Apart fro Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders there isn't anyone who can successfully challenge Trump.

They can't

Go ahead and google, "the most popular politicians in America", and tell me if you see any names besides Bernie Sanders
here's a link
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+popular+politicians+in+america&*

In 2015, nobody knew who Bernie was... they kept him out of the media, only held 3 debates, all on satuday nights, etc... so nobody would know who he was or what he stood for

But now in 2017, everyone knows who Bernie is, and they wish they had voted for him...

They simply could not use the same tactics

For 2020 Trump will have split the Rust Belt off. It will not vote Democratic. The Demos have lost the coal miners, and they are likely going to lose some of the unions.

You think you can push personality? How about some actual progress on things that matter to people? Is combating Trump a useful end in and of itself?

I think it is not, you have to have a better plan, and you don't. And stop talking about tired, old, worn out white faces as if they will be salvation.

Bernie isn't popular because people like old balding white men... he's popular because people like what he says (people who actually listen to it)

Bernie got a group of coal miners in West Virginia (way red) to cheer for him
Bernie Sanders Wins Over Crowd Of Rural Trump Supporters By Exposing The Truth About Trumpcare
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/13/bernie-sanders-storms-deep-red-west-virginia-convinces-trump-voters-conned.html

In this country today, the top one-tenth of one percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Unbelievably, 20 Americans now own as much wealth as the bottom half of America. One family, the Walton family, owns more wealth than the bottom 42 percent. And in the last 17 years, while the middle class continues to decline, we have seen a tenfold increase in the number of billionaires – going from 51 to 565. Meanwhile, 43 million people live in poverty.

For years, net neutrality has prohibited big Internet corporations from favoring or blocking certain viewpoints or websites. It really is simple—whether you are rich, poor, young or old, the Internet allows all people to seek out information and communicate globally. Now the Trump administration wants to reverse these protections, yet another example of favoring corporate interests over the interests of the American people. We must not let private corporations turn bigger and bigger profits by putting a price tag on the free flow of ideas, and diminishing our democracy in the process.

Remember: defeating Republicans’ disgusting "health care" plan was just the start. Our job is to keep fighting for affordable health care for everyone. Our job is to move this nation to a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. We're the only major nation that doesn't guarantee health care to all of our people. Think about that. We can do better then just avoiding destruction of our health care system. We can join the rest of the industrialized world, carry out Teddy Roosevelt's, FDR's and Harry Truman's vision and guarantee all people the right to health care that they deserve as human beings.

https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/

blah blah blah. I've lived in countries with Bernie style care, please don't preach socialism utopia to me. Sure, some will fall for it, but you know what?

Somehow your Bernie just isn't "IN" with the corrupt gangsters running the Democrats. I have no clue why and don't care really....

[Okurkabinladin]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Cute.

What are doing on evil capitalist bitcointalk again? That does not go for just you either, as this thread is full communists, who fell in love with life-long GOVERNMENT employee, who preaches equivality from one his tax-paid villas.

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

[criptix]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

right, trump doesnt pretend - he lies straight in your face LOL

[Spendulus]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

right, trump doesnt pretend - he lies straight in your face LOL

Look, think about what's come down.

2010 - Democrats lose the House
2012 - Republicans take Senate
2016 - Democrats lose Presidency
2017 - Republicans take 5th Supreme Court Position

I think maybe it's time to think about what's WRONG WITH THE DEMOCRATS?

Whatdo you say?

lol...

[criptix]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

right, trump doesnt pretend - he lies straight in your face LOL

Look, think about what's come down.

2010 - Democrats lose the House
2012 - Republicans take Senate
2016 - Democrats lose Presidency
2017 - Republicans take 5th Supreme Court Position

I think maybe it's time to think about what's WRONG WITH THE DEMOCRATS?

Whatdo you say?

lol...

i think the US two party system should really be reworked!

(right now im to lazy to discuss with you who the lesser evil of these two is)

[Spendulus]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

right, trump doesnt pretend - he lies straight in your face LOL

Look, think about what's come down.

2010 - Democrats lose the House
2012 - Republicans take Senate
2016 - Democrats lose Presidency
2017 - Republicans take 5th Supreme Court Position

I think maybe it's time to think about what's WRONG WITH THE DEMOCRATS?

Whatdo you say?

lol...

i think the US two party system should really be reworked!

(right now im to lazy to discuss with you who the lesser evil of these two is)

Maybe the Grand Reworker is some nutcase called Trump.

Ya think?

[Mometaskers]

Out of the darkness and into the light. I hope he finally come out and and exclaim, "Heil HYDRA!" in an event.

[Sithara007]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

No. He won't. Even if he is able to participate in the Democrat primaries, he won't be able to secure the nomination, due to massive amounts of voter fraud. BTW, I heard that Elizabeth Warren is going to be the Democrat nominee for 2020. Another cakewalk for Trump assured.

[Spendulus]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

No. He won't. Even if he is able to participate in the Democrat primaries, he won't be able to secure the nomination, due to massive amounts of voter fraud. BTW, I heard that Elizabeth Warren is going to be the Democrat nominee for 2020. Another cakewalk for Trump assured.

Also, Sanders was born in 1941.  He would be running for president at 79 years old, which really does not seem possible.

[maku]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

No. He won't. Even if he is able to participate in the Democrat primaries, he won't be able to secure the nomination, due to massive amounts of voter fraud. BTW, I heard that Elizabeth Warren is going to be the Democrat nominee for 2020. Another cakewalk for Trump assured.

Also, Sanders was born in 1941.  He would be running for president at 79 years old, which really does not seem possible.

Many people said that Bernie Sanders shouldn't be running for president as he is too old even now.
But the same people forget that Trump is only 5 years younger, and he is currently 70 (born in 1946)
So does Trump's life expectancy is so different that Sanders'? They both can live for more than 10 years.
Bernie has already survived to 74, with no terminal disease or anything like that, in good health.

[gabmen]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

No. He won't. Even if he is able to participate in the Democrat primaries, he won't be able to secure the nomination, due to massive amounts of voter fraud. BTW, I heard that Elizabeth Warren is going to be the Democrat nominee for 2020. Another cakewalk for Trump assured.

Also, Sanders was born in 1941.  He would be running for president at 79 years old, which really does not seem possible.

Many people said that Bernie Sanders shouldn't be running for president as he is too old even now.
But the same people forget that Trump is only 5 years younger, and he is currently 70 (born in 1946)
So does Trump's life expectancy is so different that Sanders'? They both can live for more than 10 years.
Bernie has already survived to 74, with no terminal disease or anything like that, in good health.

A valid point there dude if one is considering health for the presidency. Bernie's been sharp all along and i think he'd still be in the next 10years or even beyond. Add to the fact all the political experience and knowledge he's accumulated in those years which definitely will be valuable in making decisions for a country

[Forester618]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

No. He won't. Even if he is able to participate in the Democrat primaries, he won't be able to secure the nomination, due to massive amounts of voter fraud. BTW, I heard that Elizabeth Warren is going to be the Democrat nominee for 2020. Another cakewalk for Trump assured.

After the last election in America, I won't be surprised at anything. Trump is of course an idiot, but he's in luck. Who could have known that he will win? Who now can know that he will not win in 2020? The world is heading into the abyss.

[tvbcof]

I'm hoping Bernie survives til 2020

Cute.

What are doing on evil capitalist bitcointalk again? That does not go for just you either, as this thread is full communists, who fell in love with life-long GOVERNMENT employee, who preaches equivality from one his tax-paid villas.

Atleast, Trump didnt get rich pretending, that he is marxist Jesus. And you Americans laugh at Cubans for adoring another hypocritical ultra-left dictator...

Well stated.  Several times I listened to what Sanders was actually saying and it was riddled with logical errors.  Basically a bunch of leaps which make no sense.  It was amazing to me that his supporters ate it up because, compared to Clinton supporters, they were definitely a cut above on the intellectual scale.

I would probably have voted for Sanders vs. any of the Republican candidates except for Trump, Paul, or Carson.  This on the sole basis that I didn't and don't believe that Sanders was totally in the pocket of the deep state.  I would also totally expect that Sanders would either capitulate to whoever threatened him (as he ended up doing) or turn us into the next Venezuela within 4 short years.  I had already begun the process of 'diversifying' to partially prepare for that eventuality, but my chief concern was a Clinton presidency.

To me, Trump was the only candidate who I thought might be both a problem for the deep state and have the toughness to stand his ground.  Even then I never gave it above 50% odds on the former.  And even worse odds on the latter.  There seem to be signs over the last few weeks that he is capitulating or being beaten.  At least he got a surprisingly productive several months in which would be better than almost anyone else could accomplish.  And could be quite valuable insofar as it might have ended up buying some time for the smoldering fires in public opinion to gain strength.  Such red-pill type things would pay off years down the road (if at all.)