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April 02, 2017, 10:27:26 PM
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I sort of know it does.

But how exactly does it work?

I can have good guesses. Perhaps modifying bios will improve how "tight" timing on memory is.

Overclocking GPU don't seem to work at all because actual GPU clock is always lower according to afterburner. This is for ethash. Setting GPU frequency in afterburner is more like setting GPU maximum frequency.

Not sure what undervolting does.
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April 02, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
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Similarily to the other reply I wrote in your other thread, for chips to do certain speeds you have to feed them certain voltages. If you starve them electricity compared to clock speed (too undervolted or too overclocked) they will crash eventually. The cards are set up in the factory not to starve (crash) so they might get too much electricity compared to how much they would actually need to work without crashing. So you can potentially give them less power (undervolting) and they would still work just the same. But each chip is different (silicon lottery) so there's no magic formula, only trial and error.

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April 03, 2017, 03:30:41 AM
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I sort of know it does.

But how exactly does it work?

I can have good guesses. Perhaps modifying bios will improve how "tight" timing on memory is.

Overclocking GPU don't seem to work at all because actual GPU clock is always lower according to afterburner. This is for ethash. Setting GPU frequency in afterburner is more like setting GPU maximum frequency.

Not sure what undervolting does.

based on this question  don't flash  any bios,  simply


understand that  a gpu has stock core and stock  memory

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137024


4GB 256-Bit GDDR5
Boost Clock 1254 MHz -------------------------------------- core =1254
1 x DL-DVI-D 2 x HDMI 2 x DisplayPort
2048 Stream Processors
PCI


Memory
Effective Memory Clock
6700 MHz              ------------------  divide by 4 =  1675
Memory Size
4GB
Memory Interface
256-Bit
Memory Type
GDDR5


so stock =   1254  and 1675 


leave at stock

and set undervolt to   -50  saves power

fans to 50%

this should run  and give standard hash rate for eth about  21

leave undervolt at -50%

set core to 1200
memory to 1750  see if it runs.
fans at 50%



this should boost  hash a bit..

I read your posts  and you are:

 a bull in a china shop
 a lead foot
 a more power guy

and you burn your gear up


be mellow  relaxed  undervolt a bit and do standard clocks,,

once you get a feel for it

you can try pushing the gear.

I have been doing mining for 5 years plus

I almost never burn gear out.  lets   say 7 of 1000 pieces of gear

My thought is cryptomining is here to stay I dont need to rush and burn up gear

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April 03, 2017, 09:54:51 AM
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How do you undervolt?
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April 03, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Last edit: April 03, 2017, 02:26:46 PM by philipma1957
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How do you undervolt?

msi afterburner  has software for free

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner






Below is a rx 480

under volt on this is -12 >>>>>>>  I like -50


power limit is -10 >>>>>>>>>>> I Like  -5

core clock is 1279 >>>>>>>>>>> I like 1100 to 1200

memory is 2000 >>>>>>>>>>>> I like 1900 to 2200

I start at
 -50
-5
1100
1900
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then just change  memory to 1950
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2000
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2050

sooner or later  it crashes and I know if the gear likes 2100 max or 2150 max or 2200 max or 2250 max.
next play with core for eth I never go past 1200
so you may find the cards on a rig run well at 1200 and 2200
then I lower mV  from -50 to -55

every card can vary
I have cards that will do

-96
-10
1200
2233

and I have cards that will do
-55
-8
1150
2150

same cards same mobo same psu


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April 04, 2017, 04:07:56 PM
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How do you undervolt?
There are programs who limit your CPU usage and that cools than your computer by 5 to 20 degrees. That way you will have a cooler CPU and a cooler computer which is a must in mining business considering it can get really hot.

I burned out one of my old laptops (back when you can mine with laptops) mining 24/7, If I knew these methods I would probably still had that.
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April 04, 2017, 07:54:50 PM
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How do you undervolt?

msi afterburner  has software for free

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner






Below is a rx 480

under volt on this is -12 >>>>>>>  I like -50


power limit is -10 >>>>>>>>>>> I Like  -5

core clock is 1279 >>>>>>>>>>> I like 1100 to 1200

memory is 2000 >>>>>>>>>>>> I like 1900 to 2200

I start at
 -50
-5
1100
1900
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then just change  memory to 1950
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2000
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2050

sooner or later  it crashes and I know if the gear likes 2100 max or 2150 max or 2200 max or 2250 max.
next play with core for eth I never go past 1200
so you may find the cards on a rig run well at 1200 and 2200
then I lower mV  from -50 to -55

every card can vary
I have cards that will do

-96
-10
1200
2233

and I have cards that will do
-55
-8
1150
2150

same cards same mobo same psu



I have msi afterburner

However, my screenshot doesn't look like that. Also the core voltage is greyed out.

Here is what it looks like

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April 04, 2017, 08:29:15 PM
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How do you undervolt?

msi afterburner  has software for free

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner






Below is a rx 480

under volt on this is -12 >>>>>>>  I like -50


power limit is -10 >>>>>>>>>>> I Like  -5

core clock is 1279 >>>>>>>>>>> I like 1100 to 1200

memory is 2000 >>>>>>>>>>>> I like 1900 to 2200

I start at
 -50
-5
1100
1900
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then just change  memory to 1950
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2000
run 3 or 4 hours if good
then change memory to 2050

sooner or later  it crashes and I know if the gear likes 2100 max or 2150 max or 2200 max or 2250 max.
next play with core for eth I never go past 1200
so you may find the cards on a rig run well at 1200 and 2200
then I lower mV  from -50 to -55

every card can vary
I have cards that will do

-96
-10
1200
2233

and I have cards that will do
-55
-8
1150
2150

same cards same mobo same psu



I have msi afterburner

However, my screenshot doesn't look like that. Also the core voltage is greyed out.

Here is what it looks like




you are core clocked so fucking high it is a waste of energy

there is a gear center left  click it and open settings to change skin


see if this helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbPp-TueVnI


check on youtube

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April 04, 2017, 08:43:30 PM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 08:59:59 PM by pornluver
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How much hash you got from your rx 480?

It seems that you don't care. You just care that the card save power

The power saving is impressive though. So it's achieved by lowering voltage?

Actually can we put absolute value there? I mean instead of -50, what is the absolute value of voltage there?
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April 07, 2017, 04:48:13 AM
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This is my result so far. I updated bios and undervoltage by -96 mv

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