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April 04, 2017, 07:48:26 AM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

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April 04, 2017, 09:11:06 AM
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How will less scams happen when gambling sites ask for proofs from the customers?

It should be the other way around. Gambling sites should mention where their companies are registered and provide the reference numbers for that. They should show who runs the show so things are more transparent for the gamblers.

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April 04, 2017, 09:19:21 AM
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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.

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April 04, 2017, 10:56:09 AM
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How will less scams happen when gambling sites ask for proofs from the customers?

It should be the other way around. Gambling sites should mention where their companies are registered and provide the reference numbers for that. They should show who runs the show so things are more transparent for the gamblers.
I totally agree with this. Customers might be anyone. The casino needs to prove it is fair and perhaps, as you say, officially registered.
However, in some cases no proof is needed. For example, Vdice is written on ethereum platform and I guess the transactions are performed on it like in the case with smart contracts. And this is basically a cool version of an self-evident non-scamming gambling website.

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April 04, 2017, 12:32:45 PM
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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.
Its your own choice on which way would you go if you would like to play on KYC policy based gambling businesses to feel secure on your funds and you will not hesitate to think that they would ran anytime with your money and just as you said the exchange would be your personal informations and other dont really like to expose their identity on playing thats why gambling with bitcoin is also booming up.

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April 04, 2017, 01:08:42 PM
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How will less scams happen when gambling sites ask for proofs from the customers?

It should be the other way around. Gambling sites should mention where their companies are registered and provide the reference numbers for that. They should show who runs the show so things are more transparent for the gamblers.

Correct, there would be no player on a certain gambling site if they are going to ask proofs that a certain player is legit, because just like what you have said, it should be the other way around. Gambling sites are the ones who are attracting players, so its their job to do such thing like proving they are legit and people could trust them by providing proofs that they pay, something like this.

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April 04, 2017, 03:04:31 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

How would asking for proofs make it less scam proof ? First of all, asking for proofs doesn't necessarily mean they are regulated unlike they show their KYC. And secondly, they can claim to be hacked and run with the bitcoin even if they are actually regulated..
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April 04, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
What scams are you talking about exactly?

Gamblers are worried that casino will turn out to be scamming them, not the other way around.
Tell me what exactly a player can do to scam online Dice platform? Next to nothing. Exploit their bonus program with multiple accounts?
Having 2nd account registered with his own referral? That is still more profit for the casino!

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April 04, 2017, 03:37:36 PM
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Fiat gambling establishments ask for ID because the law requires them to do so. Bitcoin gambling establishments shouldn't ask for ID if Bitcoin is not regulated in the country where they operate in my honest opinion. But they can ask for ID even if Bitcoin is not regulated of their own accord.

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April 04, 2017, 03:48:13 PM
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Casinos definitely should ask proof from their users as many users as I've noticed are gambling while being below the age of 13-18 and the sites that ask proof include bet365 which is quite trustworthy compared to anonymous gambling websites that allow any user to register by just clicking the agreement. There are users who register multiple times to get bonuses and claim giveaways. However, this wouldn't reduce scams caused by gambling websites themselves and more than users scamming, the issue is that bitcoin related gambling websites are scamming.


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April 04, 2017, 04:19:16 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

proof of identity you mean? no one would play if they ask for that, people like to play with bitcoin because they don't have to deal with the boring identity verification, and somehow also dangerous, what if they steal my credentials and use it for illegal things? i can't risk that, i'll never send my id to anyone, and don't forgot that id can be false too, maybe someone stole a ID from someone else and use it to play



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April 04, 2017, 04:31:57 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

In an occasion when a user is suspected of doing things that are less good and may break the rules, they can ask for identity. But overall, if they ask for the identity of all users,  I think that will unwise and could undermine the reputation of the site concerned. At crypto world we want to remain anonymously.

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April 04, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.

And what makes you think the information supplied is correct in the KYC platform from their clients in as much as I subscribe to KYC but it should not be extended to gambling sites if its a trading site, then I agree thats its important at to avoid money laundering but gambling where the reason most people engage in the online version is to avoid being attached to it and what difference will it make if what I am running from in the physical gambling is what is being asked going the online way...
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April 04, 2017, 05:11:22 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

proof of identity you mean? no one would play if they ask for that, people like to play with bitcoin because they don't have to deal with the boring identity verification, and somehow also dangerous, what if they steal my credentials and use it for illegal things? i can't risk that, i'll never send my id to anyone, and don't forgot that id can be false too, maybe someone stole a ID from someone else and use it to play

I will also not play if they ask too much information that's why I used bitcoin in the first place, because of its anonymity. You just deposit it to their wallet and you withdraw it to your btc address as well. Very simple. And we all know what will happen if your credentials have been stolen, they can use it to in fraudulent activity for financial gains.
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April 04, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
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Yes gambling sites need to show proofs because how a gambler know if a gambling site is legit or safe many of sites today are scams so we need to be sure that the sites that we are using is really legit or safe.

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April 04, 2017, 07:29:00 PM
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

I don't get it why ask a costumers some proof while the gambling site is not doing same thing will less a scams. Especially in bitcoin gambling industry which mostly gambling company not provide their ID, although it's doesn't really necessary, but if providing it will be a plus point for the company itself.


In an occasion when a user is suspected of doing things that are less good and may break the rules, they can ask for identity. But overall, if they ask for the identity of all users,  I think that will unwise and could undermine the reputation of the site concerned. At crypto world we want to remain anonymously.

No, they will usually give a warning, if the warning runs out of a chance (usually 3 warning which the company give), they will permanently banned you.
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I think the main reason anyone puts Bitcoin into gambling sites rather than fiat is so that they don't have to give their personal information.  If casinos did this to people when they didn't suspect any fraudulent activity from a specific user, no one would use the sites and thus verification would be pointless anyway.

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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
should they prove that the site is not a scam and legit. but if it had been playing on this site and is not a scam so what's wrong if we provide evidence that the site was not a scam to attract more customers are being cautious in choosing a gambling site. but if it bothers you can skip.

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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.

And what makes you think the information supplied is correct in the KYC platform from their clients in as much as I subscribe to KYC but it should not be extended to gambling sites if its a trading site, then I agree thats its important at to avoid money laundering but gambling where the reason most people engage in the online version is to avoid being attached to it and what difference will it make if what I am running from in the physical gambling is what is being asked going the online way...


In my humble opinion, Most KYC supported Gambling site needs an ID verification and Address verification so that they can verify if the information provided is legit. That was the KYC main purpose. But i disagree about KYC on gambling site that using BTC as currency because BTC are meant to keep our privacy safe besides that, there are so many gambling site that are leghit and trusted without KYC, As per statement about, We can check the legality of all gambling site from it's company registration.

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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

any gambling site that starts thinking about such a thing will be shooting itself in the foot. because the gamblers will simply close their accounts and go to another gambling site. and it is pretty easy since there are a lot of them around and most of them are offering the same thing with same features and same house edge and are also trusted.

and while we are playing with bitcoin, none of us will be willing to give anything to a gambling site.



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