I just switched to running a Bitcoin Unlimited node

[cryptoanarchist]

This thread is making me chuckle..

As for the OP.

Is there anything anyone could say to make you switch back to Core ?

( The arguments for both sides have been made ..err.. like a quadrillion times..  and if after all that you still decided to run a BU node, I'm not sure there's anyway 'someone can explain in an honest, intelligent way why you're making a bad decision'.. So I guess my answer to your question, would be.. No. )

Y'know, I've never heard a technical argument in favor of Core. It's all just attack and smear campaign that's typical of the same trolls who have been on here for years.

I'm actually really enjoying how many people in this thread are dismantling Carlton's usual bullshit, it's very refreshing.

Of course they're paid shills, Danny. Sure, people troll for free, but 5+ years of consistent trolling has to be bought.

[ebliever]

Just about everything about BU is turning out to be fake. Maybe you are running a real node... but that would make you a minority I guess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/641kk2/found_150_fake_bu_nodes_ua_free_the_markets_free/

[cryptoanarchist]

Just about everything about BU is turning out to be fake. Maybe you are running a real node... but that would make you a minority I guess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/641kk2/found_150_fake_bu_nodes_ua_free_the_markets_free/

Not really a reliable source anymore. Has anyone not been censored there?

[Killerpotleaf]

Just about everything about BU is turning out to be fake. Maybe you are running a real node... but that would make you a minority I guess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/641kk2/found_150_fake_bu_nodes_ua_free_the_markets_free/

seems btcpop.co is very enthusiastic about BU.


@OP you might want to consider running classic if all you want to do is signal you don't approve.

classic and BU are compatible, i'm considering changing my node from BU to classic, just because there seems to be plenty of BU nodes, and i want to promote diversity and decentralization of dev.

IMO if dev is a winners take all type thing " BU WINS YAYE or CORE WINS YAYE" we all lose...

when we start saying things like " Core's Segwit has got adopted Yaye, and BU's EC is just about to activate", then we made it.

unfortunately this means a relatively strong degree of mutual respect and teamwork throughout the bitcoin dev community as a whole, which simply isn't the case for some. BUT its NOT as bad as you might think, there is at least one core contributor i know of that come on our forum and engages with BU

[cryptoanarchist]

@OP you might want to consider running classic if all you want to do is signal you don't approve.

I was thinking of running at least one each.

[thejaytiesto]

So you are trusting your wealth into a software that crashes because it's coded by idiots and its based upon a design that needs more than 21 million coins once all coins are mined or else the so called emergent consensus implodes.
Anyone that is running a BU node is either getting paid or is a fucking idiot.
UASF segwit and lets get this shit done already.

[chek2fire]

I personally don't like the people working on Core, and I don't trust them. I'm not sure I trust Roger Ver, but I KNOW I don't trust Core.

Can someone here explain in an honest, intelligent way why I'm making a bad decision?

you are a crypto or better an anarchist and you run a code of BU?
lol
 
who you think will buy this?

[cryptoanarchist]

So you are trusting your wealth into a software that crashes because it's coded by idiots and its based upon a design that needs more than 21 million coins once all coins are mined or else the so called emergent consensus implodes.
Anyone that is running a BU node is either getting paid or is a fucking idiot.
UASF segwit and lets get this shit done already.

Your response is pretty typical of core's arguments, and the main reason for me switching. SegWit is dead.

[chek2fire]

So you are trusting your wealth into a software that crashes because it's coded by idiots and its based upon a design that needs more than 21 million coins once all coins are mined or else the so called emergent consensus implodes.
Anyone that is running a BU node is either getting paid or is a fucking idiot.
UASF segwit and lets get this shit done already.

Your response is pretty typical of core's arguments, and the main reason for me switching. SegWit is dead.

yeah whatever... if you are an anarchist then i am the pope francis

[Iranus]

You refuse to answer the pertinent question, and instead continue to derail with over-complicated and diversionary walls-of-text full of unproven assertions. Done here, hope you're getting paid by the line

I answered the Big Question a while ago, and just made it clearer.  Please read the new edit, since you haven't read any of my other posts, or maybe I'll consider putting you on ignore.

[kiklo]

I personally don't like the people working on Core, and I don't trust them. I'm not sure I trust Roger Ver, but I KNOW I don't trust Core.

Can someone here explain in an honest, intelligent way why I'm making a bad decision?

Simply put, BTC Core has been lying for months now so they don't actually fix BTC Transaction issues instead pushing their Offchain Banking Cartel Controlled Alternative.

Things they could have done to fix the transaction issues

1. Easiest: Increase Block size to 1½ or 2mb , nothing earth shattering and the transactions / fees issue would have solved

2. next easiest : Just move to a faster block speed, (requires changing the reward structure)
The Fact that core lied and said this was impossible , is amazing to consider, because a faster block speed is exactly why LTC has 4X the transaction capacity of BTC.
BTC core could have moved to a 5 minute block speed and BTC transaction capacity would have 2X overnight.

Core keeps complaining BTC can't scale to match visa,
At the moment BTC can't Match LTC, which is a much easier fix just move to a 2½ minute blockspeed.
But 4X the current transaction capacity would easily hold BTC onchain needs for 3 or 4 years maybe 10 years.

In the back of your mind, you know core is lying which is why you don't trust them.

G.Maxwell
List of his Lies so far.
1. BTC can not move to a faster block speed     : LIE
2: BTC can't increase Blocksize without segwit  : LIE
3: BTU is unsafe                                           : LIE
4: PoS: Nothing at Stake                                : LIE
5: Energy Efficiently is an attack vector            : LIE


The shocking thing , is why does anyone believe anything these guys say,
But when you find out from a LN Dev that Core keeps a Troll Army to Lie for them in the forums,
it kind of explains it, their trolls just lie to make it seem like anyone trusts core.

Right CB!


 

[Sadlife]

BU developers has a lack of an understanding with the code they've made themselves this so called of "upgrade" for mining block is a hardware chip to actually exploit blocks. This exploit enables them to mine roughly 20% faster than other competitors.
BU is not planning for a decentralized network but a centralized blockchain that will only benefit themselves, besides from a buggy code they're using some cheap tricks.

[Danimore]

Bitcoin Unlimited has demonstrated a lack of understanding of the code that they are working on and have introduced multiple critical bugs. Their code review process is non-existent.

The BU developers are also extremely toxic. They refuse to work with every other developer in the Bitcoin community. They have refused to use the BIP system which is used by everyone else in the Bitcoin community (not just Core) in order to standardize proposals and make sure that different implementations of the consensus rules still follow the consensus rules. Furthermore, BU's BUIP system is extremely lacking in technical documentation that allows other developers to work on separate implementations of a BUIP.

The very nature of how BU is conducting themselves is that they are making it extremely difficult for multiple implementations of Bitcoin to exist; their documentation for stuff like Emergent Consensus, the specific system that they are using, XThin, etc. is so bad that no pretty much no other developer can actually independently implement any of them. Thus you will be stuck with just whatever the BU developers put out, and they have shown that what they do produce has many issues.

you have a thought the same as mine. BTU is only a different coin as like as zec and zcl.  Bitcoin is still number one until now. I only trust in bitcoin (BTC) not bitcoin unlimited (BTU). I think They use this fork to decrease value of bitcoin (BTC)  and I still keep and buy more bitcoins if possible.

[cryptoanarchist]

The shocking thing , is why does anyone believe anything these guys say,
But when you find out from a LN Dev that Core keeps a Troll Army to Lie for them in the forums,
it kind of explains it, their trolls just lie to make it seem like anyone trusts core.

This. Paid trolls are part of life nowadays. You can't judge the general attitudes by looking in forums and comments sections because big money interests whether they're Blockstream, or Big Pharma, or the CIA are manipulating them with multiple sock puppet accounts.

[HabBear]

Under the current development team, ideas are proposed and the community either accepts them or not.

What other options are there?

What is it about the Bitcoin Unlimited people that keep them from want to worth with the Bitcoin Cor devs, rather than against them?

[kiklo]

Under the current development team, ideas are proposed and the community either accepts them or not.

What other options are there?

What is it about the Bitcoin Unlimited people that keep them from want to worth with the Bitcoin Cor devs, rather than against them?

You got it backwards the Core Team is the one refusing to do anything to fix the transactions issue except push for segwit/LN so they can move all of the transactions OFFCHAIN.

Increase the Blocksize to 2mb or move the blockspeed to 5 minutes instead of 10 , and you just Doubled BTC Transaction Capacity.
(Or do Both and increase the Transaction Capacity by 4X.)

It ain't rocket science.  
Either use a bigger bucket or move twice as fast when you carry it.