Bitcoin Forum
May 03, 2024, 07:57:25 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: can BTC ever return to significantly below $100?  (Read 3194 times)
micalith (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 894
Merit: 501



View Profile
April 23, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
 #1

I've seen allot of people here and on reddit speculating that the value of BTC is likely to compensate back to much lower than current rates, like around $50. I personally don't see it, what with the whole world jumping on the band wagon, but I'm new to this.

Does anyone still think that there is a reason for it to return to a lower value other than government intervention or the 51% problem?
1714766245
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714766245

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714766245
Reply with quote  #2

1714766245
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714766245
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714766245

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714766245
Reply with quote  #2

1714766245
Report to moderator
1714766245
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714766245

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714766245
Reply with quote  #2

1714766245
Report to moderator
jambaman42
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 42
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
 #2

Once all the media decides that they're bored of bitcoin the value will take a significant hit. Personally I don't see it dropping too much below 50% of its value at the time, but it can't sustain being worth 100 with current hashpower/transaction combo. It's not used enough yet. I wouldn't pay more than $60 for one right now. They're just not worth it. If the media stops covering that's a lot less people paying attention. Which means a lot less value. Long term it could very easily go up to $1000+. But near term I see probably a peak of about 150, the media losing interest, and it dropping down to 60-75 range.
superduh
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 09:04:08 PM
 #3

Once all the media decides that they're bored of bitcoin the value will take a significant hit. Personally I don't see it dropping too much below 50% of its value at the time, but it can't sustain being worth 100 with current hashpower/transaction combo. It's not used enough yet. I wouldn't pay more than $60 for one right now. They're just not worth it. If the media stops covering that's a lot less people paying attention. Which means a lot less value. Long term it could very easily go up to $1000+. But near term I see probably a peak of about 150, the media losing interest, and it dropping down to 60-75 range.

ok man. you'll be buying them soon enough but most likely not for what you are hoping for.

ok
nobbynobbynoob
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 1000


Annuit cœptis humanae libertas


View Profile WWW
April 23, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
 #4

I've seen allot of people here and on reddit speculating that the value of BTC is likely to compensate back to much lower than current rates, like around $50. I personally don't see it, what with the whole world jumping on the band wagon, but I'm new to this.

I'm no bear, but honestly, yes, the price could easily fall back below $100. Lower than, say, $40, is far less likely but I wouldn't say that's impossible. I think we'll never see <$10 (as most recently briefly occurred in October/November last year) ever again, barring a "fail" scenario in which we fall to zero, but again, it's all just... speculation.

If the price tanks, and there's no obvious rationale for it, be positive and view it as a buying opportunity.

Earn Free Bitcoins!   Earn bitcoin via BitcoinGet
BTC tip: 1PKkvuwC24Vqjv9odigXs1QVzE66jEJqmb (if <200 µBTC, please donate to charity)
LTC tip: LRqXaNdF79QHvhPpS5AZdEJZnLiNnAkJvq (if <Ł0,05, please donate to charity)
Brushan
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 224
Merit: 10



View Profile
April 23, 2013, 09:13:59 PM
 #5

I don't think the price will go to 50$ ever again unless something big happens, for example bitcoins being globally banned or a bug in the protocol. Media coverage is not really needed anymore since VC's have opened their eyes for Bitcoin and large investors will make sure that their investments keep growing. With that said, i don't believe Bitcoin will lose all media coverage. It can be less mentioned in the news but i think it will keep making regular headlines on the financial pages.
afbitcoins
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1061



View Profile WWW
April 23, 2013, 09:16:10 PM
 #6

It could go below $100 from a technical viewpoint, the floor of the long term rising trendline is currently about $20 or $30 or somewhere in that region. For me that is the minimum it could go to assuming the bitcoin cryptographic technology remains solid. The weak point is the exchanges specifically MtGox, if they encounter repeated serious problems, hacks etc then i could see the price go below $100.

However bitcoins seem to have weathered this last crash remarkably well. In fact I have changed my short term outlook back to BULLISH, I'm thinking we might see new highs sometime in July.
naphto
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392
Merit: 250


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
 #7

However bitcoins seem to have weathered this last crash remarkably well. In fact I have changed my short term outlook back to BULLISH, I'm thinking we might see new highs sometime in July.



There is almost nothing that makes bitcoins worth more today than 3 weeks ago actually.
If the prices are rising again it is only because no one is selling, and lot of investors came and invested fiat into bitcoins. But sooner or later they will probably want to cash out and the price should decrease. I personally know some guys that bought expensives coins and are willing to sell them if the market hits 250 usd again, or hold them forever ...
kokjo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000

You are WRONG!


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
 #8

theoretical answer: YES IT CAN.
what the rest of the forum thinks: NO!!!! it will be over $50000000 in 3 minutes.

my guess: maybe.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
evolve
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


daytrader/superhero


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
 #9

Yes, it can (and on a long enough time scale, will) fall below $100. The question is when.
SlipperySlope
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 686
Merit: 501

Stephen Reed


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 10:09:14 PM
Last edit: April 24, 2013, 03:51:36 AM by SlipperySlope
 #10

Quote
can BTC ever return to significantly below $100?

Yes it will.

Speculative financial theory, and the experience from the June 8, 2011 bubble, suggests that the collapse from the crash April 10 to the bottom will be deeper than most people expect. So if most bears around here expect $50, then it will likely be deeper than that in several months.
nobbynobbynoob
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 1000


Annuit cœptis humanae libertas


View Profile WWW
April 23, 2013, 10:37:39 PM
 #11

The only flaw in that argument is this isn't June 2011.

I think (but do not know) that this recent bubble up was nowhere near as (proportionally) extreme or bubble-like as the runup in 2011. So the aftermath will perhaps pan out differently, because there are different forces at play now. That is not to say we won't go down, though.

Earn Free Bitcoins!   Earn bitcoin via BitcoinGet
BTC tip: 1PKkvuwC24Vqjv9odigXs1QVzE66jEJqmb (if <200 µBTC, please donate to charity)
LTC tip: LRqXaNdF79QHvhPpS5AZdEJZnLiNnAkJvq (if <Ł0,05, please donate to charity)
smoothie
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473


LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 10:40:09 PM
 #12

no

███████████████████████████████████████

            ,╓p@@███████@╗╖,           
        ,p████████████████████N,       
      d█████████████████████████b     
    d██████████████████████████████æ   
  ,████²█████████████████████████████, 
 ,█████  ╙████████████████████╨  █████y
 ██████    `████████████████`    ██████
║██████       Ñ███████████`      ███████
███████         ╩██████Ñ         ███████
███████    ▐▄     ²██╩     a▌    ███████
╢██████    ▐▓█▄          ▄█▓▌    ███████
 ██████    ▐▓▓▓▓▌,     ▄█▓▓▓▌    ██████─
           ▐▓▓▓▓▓▓█,,▄▓▓▓▓▓▓▌          
           ▐▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌          
    ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓─  
     ²▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓╩    
        ▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▀       
           ²▀▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▀▀`          
                   ²²²                 
███████████████████████████████████████

. ★☆ WWW.LEALANA.COM        My PGP fingerprint is A764D833.                  History of Monero development Visualization ★☆ .
LEALANA BITCOIN GRIM REAPER SILVER COINS.
 
jambaman42
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 42
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 10:52:06 PM
 #13

ok man. you'll be buying them soon enough but most likely not for what you are hoping for.

Maybe I will and maybe it won't be for the price I want. Right now I invested in a litecoin mining rig and I'm leaning toward buying some of those. But, chances are bitcoin will drop quite a bit in the coming months. By the end of the year I can see it being at a more stable 100, but it needs to grow.
evolve
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


daytrader/superhero


View Profile
April 23, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
 #14

no

Nope. Not ever.

.........EVER.

Even after the universe suffers heat death, and the last piece of matter has decayed into nothingness, bitcoin will live on...like Jesus or 80's rock.


All Hail Bitcoin!!







 Roll Eyes
seleme
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2772
Merit: 1028


Duelbits.com


View Profile WWW
April 23, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
 #15

Of course it can, you might search the forum for posts from 2 weeks ago, you'd find much more optimistic questions.

Bitcoin market is so low that one fairly big sell off can send it to oblivion if some big holder decide it's in his interest. It might not too though, there's absolutely no way to know it at this point. Just be careful and don't ever let smarters like smoothie to blind your mind when it comes to your coins and your property.

       ███████████████▄▄
    ██████████████████████▄
  ██████████████████████████▄
 ███████   ▀████████▀   ████▄
██████████    █▀  ▀    ██████▄
███████████▄▄▀  ██  ▀▄▄████████
███████████          █████████
███████████▀▀▄  ██  ▄▀▀████████
██████████▀   ▀▄  ▄▀   ▀██████▀
 ███████  ▄██▄████▄█▄  █████▀
  ██████████████████████████▀
    ██████████████████████▀
       ███████████████▀▀
.
.Duelbits.
.
..THE MOST REWARDING CASINO......
   ▄▄▄▄████▀███▄▄▄▄▄
▄███▄▀▄██▄   ▄██▄▀▄███▄
████▄█▄███▄█▄███▄█▄████
███████████████████████   ▄██▄
██     ██     ██     ██   ▀██▀
██ ▀▀█ ██ ▀▀█ ██ ▀▀█ ██    ██
██  █  ██  █  ██  █  ██
█▌  ██
██     ██     ██     ████  ██
█████████████████████████  ██
████████████████████████████▀
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
████████████████████████▌
       +4,000      
PROVABLY FAIR
GAMES
   $500,000  
MONTHLY
PRIZE POOL
      $10,000     
BLACKJACK
GIVEAWAY
BubbleBoy
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 504
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 23, 2013, 11:53:02 PM
 #16

30 (pessimist) to 60 (optimist) is what I expect too, long term. The buying sentiment is simply fading away:
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en#q=btc-e%2C%20bitstamp&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q

Ditto for mtgox, but I think these smaller exchanges are more relevant for buying sentiment because they are less likely to be searched by someone who simply wants to know the "price" of bitcoins. Plotting the exchanges also addresses the "people don't search for bitcoin anymore because they know what it is" argument.

This current dead cat is caused by people who were incentivized by the first run-up, sent their money to the exchanges, but the ddos and the attacks popped the bubble prematurely, before they could buy in. So they are seeing this as a chance to buy cheap, and the positive evolution confirms their expectation and fuels the greed. Trouble is, there are no greater fools filling the ranks from behind, people who were not caught in the initial whirlpool have seen the risk and will simply stay away.

                ████
              ▄▄████▄▄
          ▄▄████████████▄▄
       ▄██████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▄
     ▄████▀▀            ▀▀████▄
   ▄████▀                  ▀████▄
  ▐███▀                      ▀███▌
 ▐███▀   ████▄  ████  ▄████   ▀███▌
 ████    █████▄ ████ ▄█████    ████
▐███▌    ██████▄████▄██████    ▐███▌
████     ██████████████████     ████
████     ████ ████████ ████     ████
████     ████  ██████  ████     ████
▐███▌    ████   ████   ████    ▐███▌
 ████    ████   ████   ████    ████
 ▐███▄   ████   ████   ████   ▄███▌
  ▐███▄                      ▄███▌
   ▀████▄                  ▄████▀
     ▀████▄▄            ▄▄████▀
       ▀██████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████▀
          ▀▀████████████▀▀
              ▀▀████▀▀
                ████
MIDEX
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂ GET TOKENS ▂▂▂▂
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂
BLOCKCHAIN BASED FINANCIAL PLATFORM                                # WEB ANN + Bounty <
with Licensed Exchange approved by Swiss Bankers and Lawyers           > Telegram Facebook Twitter Blog #
ElectricMucus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057


Marketing manager - GO MP


View Profile WWW
April 23, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
 #17

no

Nope. Not ever.

.........EVER.

Even after the universe suffers heat death, and the last piece of matter has decayed into nothingness, bitcoin will live on...like Jesus or 80's rock.


All Hail Bitcoin!!







 Roll Eyes

Yes if you follow the true beliefs of a "true believer" to it's ultimate extent, that is actually what they truly think will happen. It's ridiculous beyond any notion but here it is:

Ever noticed the terminology "Bitcoin singularity" here in the speculation forum? As I mentioned in my thread "This is what some of you actually believe" it is borrowed from transhumanism which in term uses it to describe two things: 1. infinite technological progress in a finite amount of time and 2. which is essentially the same thing when it comes down to it the the actual heat death of the universe itself as described in tiplers omega point.
The latter is the holy grail of transhumanism and as such of Bitcoinism which falls under the same category.

In one sentence the omega point consists of a computer made up of all matter the universe build by it's inhabitants to simulate not only infinite universes but every possible universe recursively. (Said to be possible because of time dilation effects)

In a sense it's both the most romantic and delusional idea I know, for what's it worth. That Bitcoiners don't even know for themselves what they are talking about only makes this more funny mention.

PS: No I am not trolling
PPS: Ignore at your own peril
sunblaster
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 126
Merit: 100



View Profile
April 24, 2013, 12:40:44 AM
 #18

If it does it will be at 3am gtm and only for less than a minute.
smoothie
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473


LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper


View Profile
April 24, 2013, 12:50:37 AM
 #19

no

Nope. Not ever.

.........EVER.

Even after the universe suffers heat death, and the last piece of matter has decayed into nothingness, bitcoin will live on...like Jesus or 80's rock.


All Hail Bitcoin!!







 Roll Eyes

No  Wink

███████████████████████████████████████

            ,╓p@@███████@╗╖,           
        ,p████████████████████N,       
      d█████████████████████████b     
    d██████████████████████████████æ   
  ,████²█████████████████████████████, 
 ,█████  ╙████████████████████╨  █████y
 ██████    `████████████████`    ██████
║██████       Ñ███████████`      ███████
███████         ╩██████Ñ         ███████
███████    ▐▄     ²██╩     a▌    ███████
╢██████    ▐▓█▄          ▄█▓▌    ███████
 ██████    ▐▓▓▓▓▌,     ▄█▓▓▓▌    ██████─
           ▐▓▓▓▓▓▓█,,▄▓▓▓▓▓▓▌          
           ▐▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌          
    ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓─  
     ²▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓╩    
        ▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▀       
           ²▀▀▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▀▀`          
                   ²²²                 
███████████████████████████████████████

. ★☆ WWW.LEALANA.COM        My PGP fingerprint is A764D833.                  History of Monero development Visualization ★☆ .
LEALANA BITCOIN GRIM REAPER SILVER COINS.
 
BitcoinAshley
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 448
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 24, 2013, 01:22:33 AM
 #20

Yes, it can.

Simple question, simple answer.

 Grin
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!