Which pool do you recomend me for my only 10 TH/s

[topcat42]

Hello again,

Hey guy which pool could you recomend me for my only 10TH/s. I'm thinking work with f2pool, for the block reward and is a big pool, but I really don't know if this is my best option. I want to work in PPS.

Best regards

[topcat42]

Some options?

[moe7865]

Take a look at BCmonster.com They are PPLNS.
Also take a look at Kano.is and slush pool

[topcat42]

Thanks bro!

[icon73]

Hello again,

Hey guy which pool could you recomend me for my only 10TH/s. I'm thinking work with f2pool, for the block reward and is a big pool, but I really don't know if this is my best option. I want to work in PPS.

Best regards

The bitcoin.com pool currently pays the highest pps rate. Pool.bitcoin.com

[notabeliever]

I think you will need to take our suggestions and mine at each pool for a week. Since you have been at F2pool, write down your earnings per day and 1 week total.
Now switch to p2pool, then kano.is, bcmonster.  Note with p2pool just stay until the group finds a block. All these pools and others now a days require note keeping with the difficulty and cost to run a miner we need to be frugal. on a side note this one is interesting too www.multipool.us with as they do mine btc and a couple others if you use the sha256 multiport. Let us know how you do as with mining can be unpredictable. I was on p2p and left then the found 5 in a row.

[kano]

Note about the above comment, 1 week tells you nothing at all on any pool smaller than mine.

Even on my pool, it's not gonna tell you what to expect. PPLNS is based on the pool luck but has an expected higher return than any PPS pool out there.
The PPS pools all charge large fees - many times more than the PPLNS pools.

Almost every PPLNS has higher variance and lower fees ... an example of an exception to that rule is AntPool PPLNS, where they charge their miners about 10-12% fees at the moment since they keep all the transaction fees. Yep AntPool miners are paying Bitmain about $1 million a month in pool fees ...

[icon73]

Note about the above comment, 1 week tells you nothing at all on any pool smaller than mine.

Even on my pool, it's not gonna tell you what to expect. PPLNS is based on the pool luck but has an expected higher return than any PPS pool out there.
The PPS pools all charge large fees - many times more than the PPLNS pools.

Almost every PPLNS has higher variance and lower fees ... an example of an exception to that rule is AntPool PPLNS, where they charge their miners about 10-12% fees at the moment since they keep all the transaction fees. Yep AntPool miners are paying Bitmain about $1 million a month in pool fees ...

While I agree with you about most PPS pools bitcoin.com is not charging fees except the miner fee when you withdraw.

[kano]

Note about the above comment, 1 week tells you nothing at all on any pool smaller than mine.

Even on my pool, it's not gonna tell you what to expect. PPLNS is based on the pool luck but has an expected higher return than any PPS pool out there.
The PPS pools all charge large fees - many times more than the PPLNS pools.

Almost every PPLNS has higher variance and lower fees ... an example of an exception to that rule is AntPool PPLNS, where they charge their miners about 10-12% fees at the moment since they keep all the transaction fees. Yep AntPool miners are paying Bitmain about $1 million a month in pool fees ...

While I agree with you about most PPS pools bitcoin.com is not charging fees except the miner fee when you withdraw.

... and yet 'they' said 110% ... more than 2 times my fee for the current 2 months ...

If you are trying to mislead people by implying that paying PPS 110% is no fee, then I suggest that people should avoid a pool that tries to deceive people as such.

Edit: a way to explain it in simple terms for anyone who doesn't understand:
Bitcoin.com pays based on PPS - not based on the pool earnings - so their fee is variable.
At the moment (and for well over a month) the expected block return is over 112% PPS
So any pool that gets the expected 100% luck should expect to get over 112% PPS
If they are paying 110% PPS then that's an expected greater than 2% fee

A PPLNS pool like mine, I simply charge 0.9% of the total block reward.
So e.g. for a month like February where the pool earned about 136% PPS my fee was still 0.9%
If instead I was only paying 110% PPS, I would have received that other 26% PPS as fees.

For an average month, if luck is the expected 100% and the pool is expected to get over 112% PPS, I'm still only charging 0.9% fee, so the expected result is 110.99% PPS for 100% luck and 112% PPS blocks ... i.e. about half of their fee at 112%, less than half for greater 112% expected block reward

Edit2: and also the Bitcoin.com "110% PPLNS" reward is dependent upon the block's reward - not always paid 110% - though that implies they are keeping 'some' transaction fees also on PPLNS.

[bitkilo]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

[kano]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

They aren't questions.
They are misleading people.

[icon73]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

They aren't questions.
They are misleading people.

So, is there a PPS pool you could point me at this is going to pay me more than bitcoin.com?  Not to be stand-off about it, but when I was mining PPLNS I had some bad months.  I totally understand why.  Nice thing about pool.bitcoin.com is I have very reliable payouts, and they are the highest payouts I have found for PPS.  Our Friend with his new 10 TH/s said he wanted a PPS pool.  So far bitcoin.com has paid me the best PPS rate.  So I recommended it to him.  If you have got someplace better, I am all ears.

[kano]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

They aren't questions.
They are misleading people.

So, is there a PPS pool you could point me at this is going to pay me more than bitcoin.com?  Not to be stand-off about it, but when I was mining PPLNS I had some bad months.  I totally understand why.  Nice thing about pool.bitcoin.com is I have very reliable payouts, and they are the highest payouts I have found for PPS.  Our Friend with his new 10 TH/s said he wanted a PPS pool.  So far bitcoin.com has paid me the best PPS rate.  So I recommended it to him.  If you have got someplace better, I am all ears.

The term is "deflection".

My statements are correct.
Your pool says there is no fee - that's a lie.

[topcat42]

OK, thanks for your help. I think i'm going to try different pools per week and per block. Again, thanks!

[bitkilo]

OK, thanks for your help. I think i'm going to try different pools per week and per block. Again, thanks!

Best of luck but whoever you do go with just make sure you stick with the well known and established pools like Slush's pool, Bitcoin.com, AntPool, kano, NastyMining have a cool community.
Once again good luck!

[notabeliever]

How is your weekly testing going so far?

[clearmaker]

Hi Guy's,

I tried a lot of pools, from antpool, slushpool, f2pool, eobot and a lot more.

Most of them keep the fees included in a mined block + calculate 1-5% fees

At the end my conclusion ...
Nicehash gives me between 10 and 20% more back for mining than each other pool i tried,
don't ask me why, i cannot figure out.

The only negative item i noticed, i get paid automaticly when i reach 0.1 BTC, mostly i reach that amount already thursday's, that means i get paid again saturday's and cost me more fees than when i could hold my payouts and could get ONE payout a week.

I asked them they can add a hold payout button, but they write me back they don't ...
pittifull because that way we also should generate less traffic on the BTC network.

Eobot made this possible, but the PPS is about 18% less than nicehash, but eobot pays the transfer fees for withdrawl, on this moment that's approx 3%.

I'm mining with 2 antminers S9, 2 amd 7950 HD (GPU), 1 R9 290 X3(GPU) and 2 CPU on i7 5th and 7th generation (see image)
https://ibb.co/cCZ9o5

Today i jumped over to another wallet adress
https://ibb.co/k6HJgQ

[wmabern]

I'm mining with 2 antminers S9, 2 amd 7950 HD (GPU), 1 R9 290 X3(GPU) and 2 CPU on i7 5th and 7th generation (

You should point the two S9's at Kano pool for one of the best returns for a small-ish pool. Less people to share the reward with! Just my humble and experienced opinion. 
It's been a lucky month on Kano. (But, of course, that's no guarantee of future success.) 
Good luck! 

The GPU's and CPU's are not welcome on Kano, BTW.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0

https://kano.is/

[icon73]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

They aren't questions.
They are misleading people.

So, is there a PPS pool you could point me at this is going to pay me more than bitcoin.com?  Not to be stand-off about it, but when I was mining PPLNS I had some bad months.  I totally understand why.  Nice thing about pool.bitcoin.com is I have very reliable payouts, and they are the highest payouts I have found for PPS.  Our Friend with his new 10 TH/s said he wanted a PPS pool.  So far bitcoin.com has paid me the best PPS rate.  So I recommended it to him.  If you have got someplace better, I am all ears.

The term is "deflection".

My statements are correct.
Your pool says there is no fee - that's a lie.

While you believe it is a lie when they state that they are not charging a fee, you do agree on the other hand they are paying the best PPS rate.  That is why you haven't responded to my question with a pool that is going to pay me better.  I just wanted to verify that we were on the same page.

[kano]

If you believe that the bitcoin.com pool is trying to mislead people then why don't you just ask Roger or the other team members that run the pool to explain any questions you may have.

This is their official discussion thread: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/bitcoin-com-mining-pool-official-discussion-thread-t10578.html

They aren't questions.
They are misleading people.

So, is there a PPS pool you could point me at this is going to pay me more than bitcoin.com?  Not to be stand-off about it, but when I was mining PPLNS I had some bad months.  I totally understand why.  Nice thing about pool.bitcoin.com is I have very reliable payouts, and they are the highest payouts I have found for PPS.  Our Friend with his new 10 TH/s said he wanted a PPS pool.  So far bitcoin.com has paid me the best PPS rate.  So I recommended it to him.  If you have got someplace better, I am all ears.

The term is "deflection".

My statements are correct.
Your pool says there is no fee - that's a lie.

While you believe it is a lie when they state that they are not charging a fee, you do agree on the other hand they are paying the best PPS rate.  That is why you haven't responded to my question with a pool that is going to pay me better.  I just wanted to verify that we were on the same page.

Who cares if you pay more than some pools, when you pay less than the expected in other pools.
As is obvious, you pay less than my pool's expected payout.