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521 member of the European Parliament supported the granting Ukraine visa-free regime. Let me remind you that in Ukraine there is a war. Whether it will lead to the fact that migrant crisis in Europe will intensify?
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April 06, 2017, 09:51:42 PM |
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Let me remind you that in Ukraine there is a war.
The Ethnic Cleansing?
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April 06, 2017, 10:00:24 PM |
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Let me remind you that in Ukraine there is a war.
The Ethnic Cleansing? In Ukraine there is no ethnic cleansing. There is an aggressive attack of a neighbor - Russia.The war waged by the Russians and fully sponsored by them. You can carry any nonsense. Nobody believes you. In any case, you will lose in Ukraine and in Syria.
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April 06, 2017, 11:26:44 PM |
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They'll just emigrate like they did to Poland. At least they're hard working, unlike rapefugees. That kind of migrants you need honestly.
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April 06, 2017, 11:42:18 PM |
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They'll just emigrate
There is no right on work or to residence in EU.
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April 07, 2017, 03:46:03 AM |
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This will be of little use for the Ukrainians. If they (legally) can't work in the European Union, then what is the use in having a visa free regime? I assume that a lot of them will start working illegally. Some will apply for the refugee status as well, especially those from the Donbass.
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Great, another poor country to send billions of euros to only to see em dissapear in the pockets of corrupt government officials.
They have beautiful women though!
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April 07, 2017, 07:33:09 PM |
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This will be of little use for the Ukrainians. If they (legally) can't work in the European Union, then what is the use in having a visa free regime? I assume that a lot of them will start working illegally. Some will apply for the refugee status as well, especially those from the Donbass.
And what prevents to do that now? Visa-free regime need more Europe than the Ukrainians. Those who want to illegally work in Europe for a long time and no working visa this is not a hindrance.
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April 07, 2017, 07:34:12 PM |
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They have beautiful women though!
It is more likely the men will travel to Europe.
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April 07, 2017, 07:41:01 PM |
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Its actually really none of my business because neitheirnam I in Europe or I am from Ukraine but however I need to be mindful of what the people in Ukraine could be going through and the thinking of the European parliament to have arrived at that position after so much meditation which I believe they will have enough good reason and we should also not be unmindful of our colleagues leaving in an inhumane situations...
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They have beautiful women though!
It is more likely the men will travel to Europe. Visa-free regime requires biometric passports. This requirement makes crossing the border more difficult. Besides, forget all that for crossing the border still need to provide an invitation, a ticket on the way back your hotel, and 50 euros for each day of stay in Europe.
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i support it but only because 18 year old russian girl i found on chatroulette told me she will meet me there in july and filling in forms stresses me out
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April 08, 2017, 05:00:27 AM |
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This will be of little use for the Ukrainians. If they (legally) can't work in the European Union, then what is the use in having a visa free regime? I assume that a lot of them will start working illegally. Some will apply for the refugee status as well, especially those from the Donbass.
And what prevents to do that now? Visa-free regime need more Europe than the Ukrainians. Those who want to illegally work in Europe for a long time and no working visa this is not a hindrance. Ideally, the European Union should give preference to Ukrainian immigrants over the Muslim rapefugees from the Middle East and Pakistan. But for political reasons, they refuse to do that. Let's wait and watch.
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521 member of the European Parliament supported the granting Ukraine visa-free regime. Let me remind you that in Ukraine there is a war. Whether it will lead to the fact that migrant crisis in Europe will intensify?
What war? The drawn out posturing at the borders is not a war, my friend. Ukrainians are different breed from welfare seekers from african and arab countries. Those create jobs for locals in social welfare, effectively turning wheels of western economies, which work like banks but pretend to be human rights NGOs on the outside. On the other hand Ukrainians and eastern Europeans are more like a "white niggers", not getting welfare but being forced, often illegally into minimum wage jobs regardless of their qualifications and education. As a side effect, these cheap slaves push down wages for local population, which is major reason why elites support this human trafficking. Both groups are being taken advantage of. But for different reasons. In US landscape, take the difference between "refugees" from places like Somalia and Gastarbeiters from Mexico ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 08, 2017, 08:10:45 AM |
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On the other hand Ukrainians and eastern Europeans are more like a "white niggers", not getting welfare but being forced, often illegally into minimum wage jobs regardless of their qualifications and education. As a side effect, these cheap slaves push down wages for local population, which is major reason why elites support this human trafficking. You are right. I have heard about Ukrainian and other Eastern European immigrants forced to work in the blue collar sector, despite having advanced educational qualifications such as doctorate or masters.
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On the other hand Ukrainians and eastern Europeans are more like a "white niggers", not getting welfare but being forced, often illegally into minimum wage jobs regardless of their qualifications and education. As a side effect, these cheap slaves push down wages for local population, which is major reason why elites support this human trafficking. You are right. I have heard about Ukrainian and other Eastern European immigrants forced to work in the blue collar sector, despite having advanced educational qualifications such as doctorate or masters. ^^^^^" (No wonder if one can buy ph.d. and master certificates for 1000$ in eastern europe and russia lols)
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Ukrainians are nice civilized people as far as i know but this is a political decision. Visas are there to protect countries from terrorists and illegal immigrants and Ukraine isn't the wealthiest country there is. They are bribing Ukraine to make Russia mad again. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Applying for a visa is not a big deal unless you have a very fucked up life anyway.
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As already said, this visa-free regime is only for travelling through Schengen zone for Ukraine and Georgia citizens. It's mainly for tourism and business trips. In my country some companies startied to hire workers from Ukraine, because companies can pay them lower wages than for local people. If visa-free regime would allow to work them legally,I think we would see much cheap work power from Ukraine.
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As already said, this visa-free regime is only for travelling through Schengen zone for Ukraine and Georgia citizens. It's mainly for tourism and business trips. In my country some companies startied to hire workers from Ukraine, because companies can pay them lower wages than for local people. If visa-free regime would allow to work them legally,I think we would see much cheap work power from Ukraine.
Visa-free regime is not true. Actually this is a simplified mode of crossing the border. To go to Europe, you need to provide the same documents as for visa. This is just on the border, not at the Embassy. Work visas are issued as before.
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