Bitmain, segwit, HF and extension blocks

[anonymoustroll420]

So  let me get this straight:

Bitmain support segwit with a 2MB hardfork.

Bitmain support extension blocks.

Bitmain does not support segwit with extension blocks, only a hard fork block increase.

Can anyone explain to me why?

Is it possible that, maybe they oppose option 3 because it breaks secret boosting?

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[franky1]

segwit done as a SF means 2 merkles

segwit done as a HF means 1 merkles

by segwit going soft segwit is not compatible with efficient hardware. which is a flaw caused by 6month old software called segwit.. not 2year old asic hardware.
no one can pretend that asic manufacturers read segwit code in october 2016 and then went back in time to 2015 to make a chip to then attack software that wont be active until 2017.. (that's a ridiculous notion)

in short segwit screwed up thinking they could slide in a change by using a 'anyonecanspend' soft exploit in code and by making 2 merkles to not need nodes to upgrade. thus making core reign supreme by being the only codebase that can validate fully as upstream filters of a network.
(their real goal of being top of a tier network instead of just one amongst many of an equal one level peer network)


but now realise segwit wont work if efficient hardware is used, and core wont back down and just do a full node consensus update where only one merkle is needed
because that then removes their real power play agenda of their tier network. and means because needing to do a node consensus also means they 'could' also add dynamics at same time.. they definitely want to refuse to do a node consensus version

so instead they call old 2year old hardware the problem rather than their own un-activated 6month old software the problem

[jonald_fyookball]

So  let me get this straight:

Bitmain support segwit with a 2MB hardfork.

Bitmain support extension blocks.

Bitmain does not support segwit with extension blocks, only a hard fork block increase.

Can anyone explain to me why?

Is it possible that, maybe they oppose option 3 because it breaks secret boosting?

segwit with extension blocks sounds too complicated/kludgey
especially when you only need one of them to avoid HF.
 

[ebliever]

These same guys RUSH to post first in every thread all day long pushing the same agenda no matter how hard they have to spin it, and then expect anyone to believe they are not paid shills. 

[jonald_fyookball]

These same guys RUSH to post first in every thread all day long pushing the same agenda no matter how hard they have to spin it, and then expect anyone to believe they are not paid shills.  

You are clearly the paid shill.    Seems paid shills' favorite tactic is to accuse opposition of being a paid shill.

If by same agenda, you mean scale bitcoin, yes I will keep posting about that.

[anonymoustroll420]

segwit with extension blocks sounds too complicated/kludgey
especially when you only need one of them to avoid HF.
 

The segwit with the 2MB block increase, the one that is proposed right now, is an extension block. Extension blocks are a part of segwit... The concept of extension blocks came from segwit.... and segwit extension blocks are safer/easier than the "tothemoon" proposal.

by segwit going soft segwit is not compatible with efficient hardware.

1. Yes it is, it is compatible with the normal way of ASICBoosting, not the secret way. Antminer supports both and claim they have full rights in China to use it.

2. It's not more efficient. I have made so many posts explaining how this is a shortcut, not an efficiency gain...

[franky1]

These same guys RUSH to post first in every thread all day long pushing the same agenda no matter how hard they have to spin it, and then expect anyone to believe they are not paid shills.  

^ who shout out shill as the only respend are the same guys that have no actual content to add... bar calling people shills..

sounds like whistles in the wind to me.

maybe i made a good killing on bitcoins in 2012 have my own business and gives me time to travel and do as i please. and while stuck on a plane train or hotel i see whats going on this forum and sort out the misinformation of the centralists that want to nuke the diverse open decentralised peer network so they can have their corporate TIER network to control things and be able to position themselves to make funds from things like LN hubs to repay the $70m+ DEBT that is due by them soon

[jonald_fyookball]

The segwit with the 2MB block increase is an extension block. Extension blocks are a part of segwit... The concept of extension blocks came from segwit.... and segwit extension blocks are safer/easier than the "tothemoon" proposal.
 

separate proposal though... since miners do not accept segwit in current form, we should see if they will back the extension block proposal.

[anonymoustroll420]

separate proposal though... since miners do not accept segwit in current form, we should see if they will back the extension block proposal.

Thats what I'm saying. Current form segwit contains a 1.7-2MB increase, right? that is an extension block.

[Quantus]

We see you shills you can't hide anymore

[ebliever]

These same guys RUSH to post first in every thread all day long pushing the same agenda no matter how hard they have to spin it, and then expect anyone to believe they are not paid shills.  

You are clearly the paid shill.    Seems paid shills' favorite tactic is to accuse opposition of being a paid shill.

If by same agenda, you mean scale bitcoin, yes I will keep posting about that.

You mean posting everything you possibly can to block it. Face it, BU is dead at this point. Bigger blocks was a bad idea as people have pointed out over and over and over. SW and LN is the future - and we now can obtain them now that Bitmain's agenda is exposed.

You don't need to keep doing this to yourself. It's got to be one of the crummiest gig's you've ever done. So just tell Roger you've had it and need to take a break. Walk away.

[jonald_fyookball]

These same guys RUSH to post first in every thread all day long pushing the same agenda no matter how hard they have to spin it, and then expect anyone to believe they are not paid shills.  

You are clearly the paid shill.    Seems paid shills' favorite tactic is to accuse opposition of being a paid shill.

If by same agenda, you mean scale bitcoin, yes I will keep posting about that.

You mean posting everything you possibly can to block it. Face it, BU is dead at this point. Bigger blocks was a bad idea as people have pointed out over and over and over. SW and LN is the future - and we now can obtain them now that Bitmain's agenda is exposed.

You don't need to keep doing this to yourself. It's got to be one of the crummiest gig's you've ever done. So just tell Roger you've had it and need to take a break. Walk away.

You are the shill, and your agenda is Core's roadmap and nothing else...got it.