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April 24, 2013, 06:57:00 AM
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And people thought Bitcoin was a bubble...

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April 24, 2013, 08:53:51 AM
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Did a teacher piss you off today? Cheesy
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April 24, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
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Haha, you'd think so.

But nahhh. Been outta the education system for years now Smiley.
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April 24, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
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Yeah, way too many people get college degrees, and end up asking if you'd like fries with that. It's just another way for you to be trapped in debt.

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April 24, 2013, 02:49:12 PM
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I believe it's primarily the result of too many people being dependent upon corporations for their employment, rather than working for themselves as contractors or starting their own business. Working for yourself seems like a pipe dream, and if you want to impress the big companies, everyone feels like they need a PhD in theoretical physics. Plus it's become the "norm" to get a degree. First question out of most people's mouths when I meet them is, "so what are you studying for?" So now the only way to set yourself apart is to become a rocket scientist or a doctor. Or a rocket doctor. Because rockets need doctors too.
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April 24, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
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Yeah, way too many people get college degrees, and end up asking if you'd like fries with that. It's just another way for you to be trapped in debt.

This is your experience?  (cough, cough, laugh)
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April 24, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
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It might be a bubble, with too many people getting college degrees, and yet, USA is losing a lot of its business to overseas countries that have way more college degrees than we do. I wouldn't say it's a bubble, as much as it's people studying what no one needs. USA is in dire need of degrees in science, engineering, and mathematics.
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April 24, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
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I don't think it's in dire need of more degrees Rassah, western countries in general have that many degrees and courses that they don't know what to do with them all, I've been thinking back to the classes I sat in with schools and it amazes me how they managed to make the subjects so fucking boring. I look at stuff they taught back then that I've decided to partly look at again when I don't have anything else to do and what they taught was absolute garbage.

Seriously, how do you make digging for shiny and expensive gemstones and finding out where they live boring? How? In geography etc. all I got was a stupid textbook that ranted on about sand and climate change etc.
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April 24, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
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I don't think it's in dire need of more degrees Rassah, western countries in general have that many degrees and courses that they don't know what to do with them all, I've been thinking back to the classes I sat in with schools and it amazes me how they managed to make the subjects so fucking boring. I look at stuff they taught back then that I've decided to partly look at again when I don't have anything else to do and what they taught was absolute garbage.

Seriously, how do you make digging for shiny and expensive gemstones and finding out where they live boring? How? In geography etc. all I got was a stupid textbook that ranted on about sand and climate change etc.
I think the internet will revolutionize not only college level education, but all education. It's going to make the term "market place for ideas" a whole lot more literal. It would help A LOT if the government would get the hell out of the way though.
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April 24, 2013, 04:57:23 PM
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I think the internet will revolutionize not only college level education, but all education. It's going to make the term "market place for ideas" a whole lot more literal. It would help A LOT if the government would get the hell out of the way though.
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April 24, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
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I think the internet will revolutionize not only college level education, but all education. It's going to make the term "market place for ideas" a whole lot more literal. It would help A LOT if the government would get the hell out of the way though.

You mean this:  https://www.khanacademy.org/
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April 24, 2013, 06:41:36 PM
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You mean this:  https://www.khanacademy.org/

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April 24, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
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this entire civilisation is a bubble
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April 24, 2013, 07:20:49 PM
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this entire civilisation is a bubble

The sun's energy output is a bubble.
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April 24, 2013, 07:40:58 PM
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I think the internet will revolutionize not only college level education, but all education. It's going to make the term "market place for ideas" a whole lot more literal. It would help A LOT if the government would get the hell out of the way though.

You mean this:  https://www.khanacademy.org/

That's one example, but we can go so much further. The fun has only yet begun. The net as we know it is only in its infancy.

this entire civilisation is a bubble

The sun's energy output is a bubble.
I like to blow giant bubbles with wands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9y5T2Xdfytg#t=4s
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April 24, 2013, 08:19:37 PM
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I saw/heard/remember a recent statistic that current college graduates are doing 1/2 the work of a college graduate in 1970, and earning twice the grade for it.  Regardless of how accurate these numbers are, its clear that the price of a college education is going up, and the educational quality of graduates is going down.

I work for a company that requires a degree (I do not have one).  I am an operations manager, and I am daily appalled at the lack of knowledge that these 'best and brightest' of our society possess.

When everyone has a college degree, they become practically worthless.  The effect is that it requires the equivalent of a home mortgage to get a job.

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April 25, 2013, 02:22:22 AM
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I saw/heard/remember a recent statistic that current college graduates are doing 1/2 the work of a college graduate in 1970, and earning twice the grade for it. 

To be fair, 100 years ago many had to get up at 6 in the morning and go out to work the land of build things by hand until 8 in the evening. Technological progress has a whole hell of a lot to do with work being much less labor intensive than it used to be. Machines made farming and manufacturing easier, and since 1970s, computers made office work easier. There's no need to spend hours or days keeping track of accounts in thick 3-ring binders, adding numbers on a calculator or by hand, and drawing up detailed financial reports, when software can do it for you in minutes.

On the plus side, all those workers who have a lot less work to do, now have a lot more time to be creative and use their minds to create and improve things, instead of just doing repetitive tedious labor.
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April 25, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
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The similarity between a USD and a college diploma is the fact that both are backed by debt, and the belief they have any value at all.

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April 25, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
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The similarity between a USD and a college diploma is the fact that both are backed by debt, and the belief they have any value at all.

That belongs on a T-shirt!

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April 25, 2013, 09:59:53 PM
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The similarity between a USD and a college diploma is the fact that both are backed by debt, and the belief they have any value at all.

That belongs on a T-shirt!

Libertarians say it best? Cheesy?

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