1/2 Module Avalon ASIC Batch 3 [HorseRider Avalon + Hosting Plan]

[nonamefour]

This is the second 1/2 module I am selling from HorseRider's Avalon Hosting Plan. Starting bid 5BTC, increments of  minimum 1BTC.

First sale:
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I decided to purchase from HorseRider due to his integrity being well known and clear to see on the forum, also being in China the order should be received sooner than others and without the import fee's.

Automatic payments from the plan will be set up and you will also be able to log-in and monitor the progress of the module at any time, all provided by HorseRider. I will provide HorseRider with your wallet ID so your payments will be automated, once the auction is complete as mentioned your details will be passed to HorseRider so half the module is now in your name.

If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me. I assure you if I tried to take anyones coins without providing half the module HorseRider would kick me off the plan and provide you with what you paid for. If you would like any further confirmation of my purchase or if I have left anything out, again please feel free to reply or pm me : )

Original sale thread from HorseRider:

"I have ordered a 50 4-module Avalon batch #3 for a group order. I have to order such amount to be able to pay in RMB bank wiring. My order is a mix of group order and mining farm plan, we want to resell 15 units of them. So anyone want to buy a Avalon please PM me or post in this thread to ask question.

my order number is 4929.

If you want to participate the mining venture but don't want to spend the time to manage it, I will host the mining machine for you in China. The electricity is 0.25USD/kwh and the hosting fee is 10% of the mining revenue. PM me your bitcoin receiving address and I will give you an address to pay. The minimum ordering size is 1 module, which will share the PSU with other modules. The price for each module is 28 BTC and if you buy 4 modules, the price will be 110BTC. You can get your single module whenever you want, but you can not have a 1/4 PSU. and if you have 4 modules you can get a whole Avalon machine home with the PSU. "

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[nonamefour]

Highest bid: 15BTC

[nonamefour]

Highest bid 17BTC

This is a one day auction so get in before it goes.

[nonamefour]

Highest bid 18BTC

[nonamefour]

Bidding ends in 2hrs 

[leeiam]

Full payment sent  : https://blockchain.info/address/1ByaPVSvfgiM2JVJcT96JRg8yWTuq6R2iX 

[nonamefour]

Bidding re-opened, minimum bid: 19BTC

[nonamefour]

Leelam has had to back out, highest bid 20BTC

Auction ending in 2 hours.

[nonamefour]

Highest bid 21BTC

[leeiam]

Havent backed out still in, payment has been sent.

[nonamefour]

I'm sorry but you sent me a message asking if you could back out so the auction had to continue.

[hephaist0s]

And now this is me:
https://blockchain.info/address/1NsbJEFh5BibTQ4ifhe2knXUMXEHhjsS5t

Hopefully this works out.

[nonamefour]

Havent backed out still in, payment has been sent.

Awaiting address to return funds. Do not want to send to an address no longer used.

[greyhaze]

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[nonamefour]

Payment received, image showing message sent to HorseRider sent to buyer. Still awaiting address to refund Leeiam. It was completed the fairest way possible. Leeiam requested to back out the transaction so the auction continued. I wish not to post private messages to respect privacy but if my integrity is put into question I will be forced to. Once refund address is received I will post blockchain info for the refund.

Congrats to hephaist0s : )

[greyhaze]

Sorry didnt realise

[leeiam]

Ah i didnt send a message saying i wished to back out you incorrectly informed me that the unit would be shipped on the 5th may when it was infact due to be delayed for 3 weeks.

For this reason i sent you a message saying could we work something out, you offered to sell a quater rather than a half but have also proceeded to resell here. Rightfully this is mine as you have accepted the payment, i dont mind selling it but dont see how it is acceptable to re-sell something ive already sent a payment for, for 4btc profit.

[nonamefour]

From your message I had to continue the auction.

http://s11.postimg.org/fslzlwadf/Screen_Shot_2013_04_25_at_22_08_07.png

[leeiam]

The message didnt state i wish to cancel, the payment had been sent and it is rightfully mine i will allow the sale to hephaist0s if you send me the full refund of 21btc

[nonamefour]

Raising so much doubt clearly the auction had to continue, if the module had sold for less I don't think you would be requesting a refund for that amount, you would want a full refund. Please supply your wallet ID.

[leeiam]

No i wouldnt be requesting for that amount but seen as you have continued to sell it without my go ahead and it has reached that amount i only see it fair that i receive the full payment. I have already contacted horserider and everything was due to be confirmed.

My wallet id is: URI1J8iYHQrK1ghip7aB8mBo85G3AgegvT1cC

[nonamefour]

I shall wait until all is confirmed. Changing your mind because the price went up is is not an endearing quality. Regards,

[leeiam]

Im not changing my mind, at no point did i say i wished to cancel the transaction you just felt the need to restart the auction to make an extra few BTC's!

[hephaist0s]

It might not have been 100% clear that you were or weren't cancelling, but why did you contact the seller and make it sound like it was his problem that HorseRider's farm might not be set up by May 5? Since Batch 2 hasn't shipped, and Batch 3 comes after, the odds of the farm being set up and running by May 5 are astronomically small. That risk is part of what we're factoring into our bidding... I hope.

On top of that, you said you were counting on making all your money back in the next month, from something that hasn't been built yet? That's a terrible plan.

Just saying.

[leeiam]

Okay 18btc to that address then. Thanks

[leeiam]

To confirm i did not make it the sellers problem that it was going to be shipped late. I specifically asked what date it would be shipped and was told that because Horserider was located in China that he would be the first to receive the units and that it would be up and running within 2 days of May 5th.

I have all the PM's to prove this, i do not need to lie and i feel that if somebody with a neutral viewpoint on the whole situation was to make a judgement rather than the 'new' buyer, the seller would be in a total different situation, seen as i am theoretically the owner of what is up for sale here!

This is precisely the reason why sellers should not be allowed to pursue sales here without thorough moderation and a resolution system in place! I would appreciate it if the OP could communicate with me rather than posting inaccurate information and maybe we could come to some sort of resolution rather than him denying of any wrong doing...

P.S I have not received any form of refund at the time of writing.

[nonamefour]

I said the expected shipping date is the 5th of may as the website states, also people have posted on this forum stating the same thing and yes I said there's no reason why it won't be up and running within 2 days of shipping. I never guaranteed it would be up and running 2 days after the 5th of may, I said there's no reason why it wouldn't be up and running within 2 days of shipping.

To be quite honest the way you have dealt with this transaction has been very desperate from the start which was why I wasn't surprised when your messages looking for a way out or reduce your share in the module came through. Then clearly when the auction continued you saw a chance to make a quick buck.

Honestly I don't trust you and I will retain the funds until HorseRider has responded since I don't know how many messages you've sent him or what you've said. 

[leeiam]

Right okay.. I dont see how its fair at all that your taking the right to re-sell after i have already paid and finalised, but if you are doing so theres not much i can do..

You also seem to be twisting details, you were the one to offer me a quater of a module i accepted and you restarted the auction anyway. You did state that it would be up and running within 2 days of the 5th May and we both have the messages to prove this.

As far as you not trusting me i can guarantee the feelings are mutual, i get the feeling this proposition would of gone sour very fast sharing with you.. I have sent HorseRider 2 PM's as showing here, please issue the refund.

[nonamefour]

Preeeetty sure there's a delete option for messages so I will wait for HorseRider to respond.

[Pistachio]

This 1/2 module thing is ridiculous and this auction illustrates that to me. Whomever is determined the winner of the this half can buy my half as well and just have the whole module. I paid 20.5BTC when the exchange rate was hovering at $250/1BTC so just over $5,000 USD. I will take $3,000 or at the current exchange rate 22.5BTC to get out of this mess being made here. The winner can PM me if interested.

[Pistachio]

I should clarify, IMO the auction process for this 1/2 module has been ridiculous. I would rather avoid repeating this in the future and offer my half a module for sale to the winning bidder (when it's determined). If that person does not want the other half to make it a whole module, then I am willing to sell it to one of the unsuccessful parties in this dispute.

This 1/2 module thing is ridiculous and this auction illustrates that to me. Whomever is determined the winner of the this half can buy my half as well and just have the whole module. I paid 20.5BTC when the exchange rate was hovering at $250/1BTC so just over $5,000 USD. I will take $3,000 or at the current exchange rate 22.5BTC to get out of this mess being made here. The winner can PM me if interested.

[Pistachio]

Okay, hephaist0s has agreed to buy my 1/2 module and it is no longer for sale. The transaction for my half will be recorded https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171391.0.

Address sent for payment.

All right, I'll buy it from you at 22.5.

[Pistachio]

Payment received from hephaist0s with 5+ confirmations. Contacting HorseRider to transfer ownership to hephaist0s of 1/2 module.

[leeiam]

Any word off horserider yet so i can get this refund?

[leeiam]

Still no refund, no response off nonamefour and horserider hasp logged online. Please update on current situation?

[leeiam]

Horserider has now confirmed, awaiting refund will update once received

[nonamefour]

No i wouldnt be requesting for that amount but seen as you have continued to sell it without my go ahead and it has reached that amount i only see it fair that i receive the full payment. I have already contacted horserider and everything was due to be confirmed.

My wallet id is: URI1J8iYHQrK1ghip7aB8mBo85G3AgegvT1cC

That's not a valid address.

[leeiam]

Sorry try this one: 1JwEJthYb4twnVyUeBe7YiSyWsMVm3C1Dv

[nonamefour]

Refund Sent: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/8aac00bd433ac8945af443ec618106d4490f590edc9d11c685e5395dc3555952

[saneczki]

hello i need confirm of share on own 1/2 module from nonamefour and horseride. Confirm of payment and conversation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189430.0  i hope that will no problems

[saneczki]

can i get refund or any answer from nonamefour or horserider ?

[leeiam]

can i get refund or any answer from nonamefour or horserider ?

Whats your problem mate?

[saneczki]

check this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189430.0