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April 17, 2017, 07:03:37 PM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
religion is not as a characteristic of a person. The people who own the properties they have. do not blame the religion, because the guilty are not a religion. it's all we have to instill in everyone.

yes it is true, religion is only used as a cover for terror, religion was used as a backdrop to terror, religion was used as a shield to carry out terror, terror was caused by human minds too far and misinterpreting of jihad, jihad is the maintain of religion with earnestly. with that jihad does not have to kill, we do good to others, it is jihad, and no religion that justifies terrorist, all religions condemn terrorism, and Islam also hate terrorists, because i know, Islam not ordered become to terrorists, because would many innocent people become victims, so, however the terrorist was also strongly condemned by all religions, and we do not blame religion, but wrong is people who commit terror

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Salafi Sheikh Yasir al-‘Ajlawni, a Jordanian of origin who earlier lived in Damascus, Syria for 17 years, posted a YouTube video last week where he said he was preparing to issue a “legitimate fatwa” making it legal (in the eyes of Islam) for those Muslims fighting to topple secular president Bashar Assad and install Sharia law to “capture and have sex with” all non-Sunni women, specifically naming Assad’s own sect, the Alawites, as well as the Druze and several others, in short, all non-Sunnis and non-Muslims.

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Muslims are not all the same. Naturally for this reason they have different interpretations of the concept of Jihad. I think that to prevent terrorist attacks need to destroy all those who preach Jihad as a method of killing people of another faith. This is the main task of the security services.
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April 18, 2017, 02:05:09 AM
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Muslims are not all the same. Naturally for this reason they have different interpretations of the concept of Jihad. I think that to prevent terrorist attacks need to destroy all those who preach Jihad as a method of killing people of another faith. This is the main task of the security services.

There are thousands of sects within Islam. But all of these sects follow the teachings from the Islamic holy books. When the concept of Jihad is clearly mentioned in the holy books, the preachers and the followers are also bound to respect them.

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April 18, 2017, 04:31:08 AM
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I agree with the OP.

It's the simplistic thinking of so many people. Person A did something bad, person A has this one characteristic, say blue eyes, then everyone with blue eyes is bad. Very little brain power. The terrorist also have that limited brain power.

And I'm not a fan or religion.
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April 18, 2017, 05:39:00 AM
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 i will never kill someone cause of his religion ...


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April 18, 2017, 05:40:00 AM
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Everyone who said that religion has nothing to do with people's mentality are uneducated fools. Religion is the root of all evil.
In Islam you are brainwashed for your whole life and are told that eating pork will send you to hell and the only way of living is to eliminate all non believers.
The only difference is that some people are more resistant to this bullshit than others, that is the reason that not every Muslim is a terrorist.

But Op is completely wrong, we can't kill Muslims, war and violence is a disease and you will not cure people by spreading it.


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April 18, 2017, 06:47:12 AM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
My parents always used to say, don't aggravate that bee or it will sting you. But everyone is sitting there getting killed by terrorists when they did nothing wrong. I don't want to kill the Muslims as long as they don't aggravate me.
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April 18, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
My parents always used to say, don't aggravate that bee or it will sting you. But everyone is sitting there getting killed by terrorists when they did nothing wrong. I don't want to kill the Muslims as long as they don't aggravate me.
I think what's wrong here is that there are people who automatically incorporate terrorists with muslims which is a very shallow reasoning. Terrorism is beyond religion and it's just that these islamic terrorists say they're doing it for islam. A twisted way of understanding the koran's teachings. But i believe most muslims also abhorr what they're doing.

 
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April 18, 2017, 12:42:45 PM
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Killing all muslims is a very stupid idea, you should already know that the amount of muslims all over the world has grown very rapidly, there are millions of them in every country.
First of all, you should never kill anyone, no matter what. We should solve our problems without using violance, weapons and ammuniton. However im afraid, that it is too late for that.

It seems like they are going to overcome the rest of the white population, because the birthrate in muslim families is around 4-5 times higher than in average white familly.
This leads us to a something that is very easy to spot, for everyone: muslims are going to be the biggest part of the population in Europe countries ( such as France,Germany ), in next 20-30 years.

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April 18, 2017, 12:47:25 PM
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Killing all muslims is a very stupid idea, you should already know that the amount of muslims all over the world has grown very rapidly, there are millions of them in every country.
First of all, you should never kill anyone, no matter what. We should solve our problems without using violance, weapons and ammuniton. However im afraid, that it is too late for that.

It seems like they are going to overcome the rest of the white population, because the birthrate in muslim families is around 4-5 times higher than in average white familly.
This leads us to a something that is very easy to spot, for everyone: muslims are going to be the biggest part of the population in Europe countries ( such as France,Germany ), in next 20-30 years.

I agree, we must try to solve problems peacefully. Because the destruction of all Muslims is not a guarantee of the disappearance of terrorist attacks, there may be new, more bad sects that will destroy the world.
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April 18, 2017, 03:36:21 PM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
My parents always used to say, don't aggravate that bee or it will sting you. But everyone is sitting there getting killed by terrorists when they did nothing wrong. I don't want to kill the Muslims as long as they don't aggravate me.
I think what's wrong here is that there are people who automatically incorporate terrorists with muslims which is a very shallow reasoning. Terrorism is beyond religion and it's just that these islamic terrorists say they're doing it for islam. A twisted way of understanding the koran's teachings. But i believe most muslims also abhorr what they're doing.

Really? What who is doing exactly?

How about the terror towards those who try to leave Islam?

RABAT - A fatwa published this week by Morocco's Higher Council of Religious Scholars (CSO) calling for the death penalty for Muslims who renounce their faith has sparked fierce controversy in the country.

The scholars, who represent official Islam in Morocco, said in their edict, published in Tuesday's edition of Arabic-language daily Akhbar al-Youm, that Muslims who reject their faith "should be condemned to death."

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=58230





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....we must try to solve problems peacefully. Because the destruction of all Muslims is not a guarantee of the disappearance of terrorist attacks, there may be new, more bad sects that will destroy the world.
Here's what you're up against.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/london-based-cleric-wahhabi-fatwa-allows-sodomy-to-widen-anus-for-jihad-purposes-video/
One Wahhabi wrote: “Dear Sheik, may Allah grant you martyrdom and black-eyed virgins in Paradise, I wanted to commit a martyrdom operation. I turned to Sheik Abu Dimaa Al-Qassab, who told me that they had invented a new and unprecedented form of martyrdom operations – explosive capsules are inserted into your anus.

“In order to train for this method of Jihad, you must consent to being sodomized for a period of time, so that your anus becomes wider, making room for the explosives.

“My question is whether I am permitted to allow one of the mujahideen access to my anus, if my intentions are honorable, and the purpose is to train for Jihad by widening my anus.”

The sheik praised Allah and said: “In principle, sodomy is forbidden. However, Jihad is more important. It is the pinnacle of Islam. If sodomy is the only way to reach this pinnacle of Islam, then there is no harm in it.

“The rule is that necessity makes the forbidden permissible. Something that is required in order to perform a duty becomes a duty in and of itself. No duty takes precedence over Jihad.

“Therefore, you must be sodomized… After you have been sodomized, you must ask Allah for forgiveness.

“Know, my son, that Allah resurrects the mujahideen on Judgment Day on the basis of their intentions. Allah willing, your intention is to support Islam. May Allah include you among those who heed His call.”

This is the fatwa that led a man a while ago to carry out a bombing attack against then Interior Minister Naif bin Abd Al-Aziz [sic].
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April 18, 2017, 04:40:24 PM
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i will never kill someone cause of his religion ...

It is your choice. It can be applied to normal religions. But then, Islam is not your normal religion. It is more like a fringe cult, which advocates the extermination of non-Muslims, through a combination of demographic jihad and physical violence. If you stick to your political correctness and pacifism in front of Islamic extremism, then you will be digging your own grave.
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
My parents always used to say, don't aggravate that bee or it will sting you. But everyone is sitting there getting killed by terrorists when they did nothing wrong. I don't want to kill the Muslims as long as they don't aggravate me.
Bolded above is not the case. Islamic extremists have simply declared war on "the West." And it's quite obvious, if you think about it.
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April 19, 2017, 01:46:20 AM
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....we must try to solve problems peacefully. Because the destruction of all Muslims is not a guarantee of the disappearance of terrorist attacks, there may be new, more bad sects that will destroy the world.
Here's what you're up against.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/london-based-cleric-wahhabi-fatwa-allows-sodomy-to-widen-anus-for-jihad-purposes-video/
One Wahhabi wrote: “Dear Sheik, may Allah grant you martyrdom and black-eyed virgins in Paradise, I wanted to commit a martyrdom operation. I turned to Sheik Abu Dimaa Al-Qassab, who told me that they had invented a new and unprecedented form of martyrdom operations – explosive capsules are inserted into your anus.

“In order to train for this method of Jihad, you must consent to being sodomized for a period of time, so that your anus becomes wider, making room for the explosives.

“My question is whether I am permitted to allow one of the mujahideen access to my anus, if my intentions are honorable, and the purpose is to train for Jihad by widening my anus.”

The sheik praised Allah and said: “In principle, sodomy is forbidden. However, Jihad is more important. It is the pinnacle of Islam. If sodomy is the only way to reach this pinnacle of Islam, then there is no harm in it.

“The rule is that necessity makes the forbidden permissible. Something that is required in order to perform a duty becomes a duty in and of itself. No duty takes precedence over Jihad.

“Therefore, you must be sodomized… After you have been sodomized, you must ask Allah for forgiveness.

“Know, my son, that Allah resurrects the mujahideen on Judgment Day on the basis of their intentions. Allah willing, your intention is to support Islam. May Allah include you among those who heed His call.”

This is the fatwa that led a man a while ago to carry out a bombing attack against then Interior Minister Naif bin Abd Al-Aziz [sic].

Oh god! These people are really sick. In India, a lot of Muslims do this (anus widening). But this is not being done for Jihad, but for smuggling gold. There is a 10% excise duty on gold imports. In order to avoid that, these people place gold bars in their rectum and then catch their flight back to India. Right now, this is one of the most profitable smuggling niches in India.

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April 19, 2017, 02:24:11 AM
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Oh god! These people are really sick. In India, a lot of Muslims do this (anus widening). But this is not being done for Jihad, but for smuggling gold. There is a 10% excise duty on gold imports. In order to avoid that, these people place gold bars in their rectum and then catch their flight back to India. Right now, this is one of the most profitable smuggling niches in India.

That's a world different than going full gay for the glory of suicide bombing jihad.

I can't agree with the rational of hiding the gold to save the 10%, but hey, whatever. It's a crime which only will get the perp himself in jail.

I posted this revolting fatwa to illustrate how far crazy some of these people really are.
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April 19, 2017, 03:19:32 AM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
Oh no definitely not. I do not want to kill all muslims. Only the ones who are terrorists.
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April 19, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
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...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.
Oh no definitely not. I do not want to kill all muslims. Only the ones who are terrorists.

Okay, so let me restate the problem and your solution.

The Muslims terrorists want to kill a totally random selection of Westerners.

You'd like to kill the muslims that would like to randomly kill Westerners.

I honestly have to wonder, what was it that Muslims had on Obama/Hillary or how did they pay Obama and Hillary off, to cause them to refuse to ever use the words "Radical Islamic terrorists?"
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I believe that nobody should be killed. Everyone just needs to do their job. Intelligence agencies have time to find and neutralize the terrorists, and immigration service before issuing a visa should be good test candidates for involvement in terrorism.
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I believe that nobody should be killed. Everyone just needs to do their job. Intelligence agencies have time to find and neutralize the terrorists, and immigration service before issuing a visa should be good test candidates for involvement in terrorism.

Then you have to worry about those that come in as 'normal' people and turn into terrorism in their host countries.

Ideology is the problem.  Looking for people who have been brainwashed by this ideology only alleviates the symptoms.
The root cause remains.

Democratic countries should draw a line in the sand.  Just like they did with Nazism and Communism. 
In many countries those ideologies have been banned.  It is time to ban Islam.

In many countries it is still the state ideology of communism. I just don't see much difference between communism and fascism. View on politics and the rhetoric of Putin and find the differences from the policies and rhetoric of Hitler. The same is now in North Korea. Notice in these countries, Islam dominates.
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The root cause remains.

Democratic countries should draw a line in the sand.  Just like they did with Nazism and Communism. 
In many countries those ideologies have been banned.  It is time to ban Islam.


That would seem to be somewhere in the direction of a correct answer. Embrace Islamophobia, which although it perhaps did not exist when it began to be used as an insult, now exists as a social necessity.

If not that far, then clearly, over and over, broadcasting and stating to the public the dangers of the cult, and the fact that the beliefs and central "holy books" of the cult are in fact the problem, not rogue individuals pretending to be Muslim.

This means understanding and being willing to tell Muslims,

"No, Islam is not perfect. Islam is very imperfect."

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