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April 10, 2017, 06:24:44 AM
Last edit: April 17, 2017, 04:01:55 AM by tokeweed
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Date: Saturday, April 15th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 20:00 BCT / 1pm PST / 4pm EST
Preliminary Card (FOX): 22:00 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
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Main Card (FOX)

Demetrious Johnson (25-2-1) vs. Wilson Reis (22-6) (Flyweight Championship)
Rose Namajunas (5-3) vs. Michelle Waterson (14-4) (Women's Strawweight)
Ronaldo Souza (24-4) vs. Robert Whittaker (17-4) (Middleweight)
Jeremy Stephens (25-13) vs. Renato Moicano (10-0-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (FOX)

Alexander Volkov (27-6) vs. Roy Nelson (22-13) (Heavyweight)
Patrick Williams (8-4) vs. Tom Duquesnoy (14-1) (Bantamweight)
Bobby Green (23-7) vs. Rashid Magomedov (19-2) (Lightweight)
Tim Elliott (13-7-1) vs. Louis Smolka (11-3) (Flyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Devin Clark (7-1) vs. Jake Collier (10-3) (Middleweight)
Anthony Smith (26-12) vs. Andrew Sanchez (9-2) (Middleweight)
Aljamain Sterling (12-2) vs. Augusto Mendes (6-1) (Bantamweight)
Zak Cummings (20-5) vs. Nathan Coy (15-6) (Welterweight)
Ashlee Evans-Smith (5-1) vs. Ketlen Vieira (7-0) (Women's Bantamweight)

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April 11, 2017, 06:29:33 AM
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I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there.  The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson.  I think the Waterson line has a little value.

Here's a video for the event to get you up to speed for the event.  Enjoy.  Wink

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7y64b_S0U

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April 11, 2017, 12:26:33 PM
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April 11, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
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I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there.  The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson.  I think the Waterson line has a little value.
Demetrious Johnson is a real talent and he does not have any challengers in his division and so is the reason there is no excitement in the division,if he wants a challenge he has to step up a division and face Dominick Cruz or Cody Garbrandt to have any competition ,Ronaldo Souza v Robert Whittaker is another fight where i am sure that Ronaldo Souza will be the winner and i do like these sort of cards where we could find easy fights to wage a bet.
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I don't really follow the Fly Weight division much and Demetrious Johnson already owns the division so there's really no excitement there.  The only fight I'm interested in at the main card is Namajunas vs Waterson.  I think the Waterson line has a little value.
Demetrious Johnson is a real talent and he does not have any challengers in his division and so is the reason there is no excitement in the division,if he wants a challenge he has to step up a division and face Dominick Cruz or Cody Garbrandt to have any competition ,Ronaldo Souza v Robert Whittaker is another fight where i am sure that Ronaldo Souza will be the winner and i do like these sort of cards where we could find easy fights to wage a bet.

Yes. Mighty Mouse is the true #1 pound for pound in UFC right now. He has sweep his division and even beat twice his closest competition(Benavidez). I don't think there's someone who can take the belt from him. So this fight for him is just like going to the office, no real threat. And as what the poster said above me, he should step up the plate and try to avenge his lost to Dominick Cruz.

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April 11, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
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I think Wilson Reis trains out of Alliance MMA in San Diego with Dominick Cruz.

Wilson Reis is known for having a very good ground game & his wrestling looked very good in his last fight with Yuta Sasaki.

But would have to think Demetrious Johnson will win.

I like a lot of fights on this card. There are a lot of good prospects who are very skilled even if they're relatively unknown.
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I think Demetrious Johnson has a huge advantage over Reis, reis is a great BJJ master but I think that is all about it, Johnson can box and if it goes down he can hold his own. Also I am wondering a lot about Michelle she has a great record and seems to be going fort he title, hopefully she does great for the next couple of games.
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April 12, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
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i like all the dogs


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April 12, 2017, 11:00:32 PM
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i like all the dogs
Wilson Reis
Michelle Waterson
Robert Whittaker
In a normal situation i would select the underdogs but betting against the best in the division in Demetrious Johnson is not going to happen for me and Souza would take Robert Whittaker down and finish him as he is not that good on the ground,but Michelle Waterson is an interesting fight and lets see how her preparation would be.
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April 13, 2017, 02:05:59 AM
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will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
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@notserp. I did not know that. I am looking at the odds right now and I see Jacare -230 and Robert Whittaker +200. Now that we know Robert Whittaker's high take down defense %, can we assume that Jacare is overvalued and his opponent is undervalued?

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April 13, 2017, 04:07:22 AM
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i think so thats why i like whittaker plus odds, but i think odds might go up even more so i would wait to bet.
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April 13, 2017, 12:09:21 PM
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There's also MMA pundit Robin Black saying that Reis could win it vs Johnson if he could control the latter's back.  That's hard to do.  Johnson is just too quick.

Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card.  Waterson to win money line at 2.25.  I think that fight is a coin flip.

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April 13, 2017, 12:36:51 PM
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There's also MMA pundit Robin Black saying that Reis could win it vs Johnson if he could control the latter's back.  That's hard to do.  Johnson is just too quick.

Anyway, I made my only bet for the main card.  Waterson to win money line at 2.25.  I think that fight is a coin flip.

I doubt he can take Johnson's back, like you said he's too quick and has a solid defense with his back against the floor. On paper, Namajunas and Waterson have similar skill sets with each sharing a background in traditional martial arts before adding other elements to make it to this level in the UFC. I still give the edge to Namajunas although I like Waterson, Namajunas edge will be her well rounded game she has developed.

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April 13, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
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will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .
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April 13, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
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will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .

94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more
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April 13, 2017, 07:40:39 PM
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will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .
94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more
If you look at Robert Whittaker's UFC career just pin point one wrestler he faced till now,only wrestlers take down opponents and most of the time BJJ specialist ,everyone he faced till now are strikers and so is the reason he does have a good take down defense,Ronaldo Souza is on a different level when it comes to the ground game so a 94% take down defense against strikers is not that impressive for me.
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April 13, 2017, 08:11:16 PM
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Bellator 177 is also tomorrow(friday).

Bantamweight   Eduardo Dantas (c)   vs.   Leandro Higo            
Featherweight   Daniel Weichel   vs.   John Teixeira            
Featherweight   Adam Borics   vs.   Anthony Taylor            
Flyweight   Lena Ovchynnikova   vs.   Helen Harper      
      
Preliminary card (Spike.com)
Featherweight   Brian Moore   vs.   Ludovit Klein   
         
Bellator Kickboxing 6 fight card
Welterweight (Kickboxing)   Zoltan Laszak (c)   vs.   Karim Ghajji            
Featherweight (Kickboxing)   Gabriel Varga   vs.   Gabor Gorbics            
Middleweight (Kickboxing)   Joe Schilling   vs.   Alexander Negrea            
Featherweight (Kickboxing)   Jorina Baars   vs.   Irene Martins            
Welterweight (Kickboxing)   Raymond Daniels   vs.   Gyorfi Csaba

Leandro Higo missed weight and so his fight with Eduardo Dantas will not be a title fight.

Daniel Weichel vs John Teixeira is the only other fight with names I recognize aside from Joe Schilling.
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April 13, 2017, 09:31:33 PM
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Bellator 177 is also tomorrow(friday).
I am not familiar with any of the fighters listed in this card,is there any talent to look out for in this card,if so i would like to know,since there are more events now it is really hard to keep track of every fighters and if Bellator could make a superstar like UFC is creating then it will be a major competitor and they have already snatched some top talents from UFC .
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will see if jacare can take him down, whittaker has 94% take down defense and if he cant get him down whittaker kills him standing.
Robert Whittaker has two major advantages in this match and that he is a much younger fighter and he has knock out power but if you take the rest of the comparison Ronaldo Souza stands out with a huge difference and the only problem he had was against good wrestlers and grappler's which was difficult for him to take down and Robert Whittaker is not a good grappler but when you are facing a fighter like Souza you need to be a specialist to overcome his ground game .

94% tdd is not good grappling? not sure what else you need besides that and striking to beat souza ill take whittaker all day at +200 or more

Robert Whitaker's odds is still not enough if you ask me. He is against Jacare who is still one of the best fighter in the middleweight division. Some MMA analysts consider him as the next champion if he is given a chance to fight for the title.

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