Bitcoin’s Segregated Witness: More Than Just Malleability Fixes and Scaling

[ebliever]

I've posted maybe 1/10 the messages here that BU folks like franky1 or jonathan f have posted in the same timeframe. If that makes me a shill for core (I'm not, just an ordinary bitcoiner with absolutely 0 ties to Blockstream or any dev), what does that make you guys? You seem to have nothing better to do than hang around this board and reddit all day posting up a storm.

Folks are encouraged to read both sides of this debate (Proverbs 18:17) and make up their own mind, because it is important for the future of Bitcoin.

I guess pretty much everyone outside your group is a shill for core - that is, for bitcoin - outside your mining cartel:
https://coin.dance/poli

It's not your post count that makes you a shill, it's your ignorance, here is just one example:

Re: Do you support Segwit?
Yes, of course. I don't see any downside to it, and the upsides are major ones.

I just posted a bunch of reasons why SegWit is an obvious poison pill.
Yet you ignore it and go straight for framing me 'BU folks' hoping no one will notice.
Show me one post where I sell BU, seriously, just try find one, just one.
 
There is no debate, the evidence is clear,  Blockstream/Core are simply crooks who've taken the code hostage since 2015.
Instead of just increase the blocksize to 2M/4M and let things progress naturally, let SegWit face natural competition, Blockstream/Core used dirty tactics to force feed it to everyone.

Github commit, bips, mailing list, are now all under Blockstream control.

SegWit gets merged without a hiccup, simple 2M increase pull request instantly get closed by Blockstream co-founder, then locked it so the submitter couldn't even reply. Then they turn around and bullshit about 'community consensus'.

And you have similar post/day as franky/jonald, how do you even come up with bullshit like 'I've posted maybe 1/10 the messages here that BU folks like franky1'.

Just try me, just quote me and reply with bullshit again, and I'll compile a long list of dirty shit Blockstream/Core have done, and every time you shill for this shit I'll start your so called debate with it. Let's see how well you do in that debate.

Just do your job, but don't act like a smart ass when you're selling bullshit.

1. If Vertcoin, Litecoin and other alts implement Segwit without issue, will you admit you are wrong and drop your opposition to SW on Bitcoin?
2. I suppose someone can be hostile to the general bitcoin development community ("core") without being a support of BU. But it's a natural mistake to make in the present environment. Ironically I define myself as "anti-BU" and not "pro-core" in much the same way you define yourself as "anti-core" but not "pro-BU". So your point is well taken, but I hope you take it to heart as well  because it works both ways.
3. The fact that Blockstream is one company that has some devs involved with Bitcoin is not proof that everything is controlled by them. Applying that sort of reasoning leads to all sorts of wild conclusions (because X has influence on Y, X must control Y?) that are going to be wrong 99% of the time.
Even if Blockstream has the most influence... well, of all the organizations involved with the dev community, one would be at the top of the list of influence. Why should I view that one as being more sinister than all the rest? Knock it out of the picture and you could come up with conspiracy theories for the next one, and the next one. Most everything I read from the core-haters just puts an extremely negative spin on anything core does without any sense of balance, often with a fair amount of ranting and raving. It's a real turn-off and does nothing to persuade people.
4. If you think SW so controversial, why is there so little opposition to it at https://coin.dance/poli ?
5. Franky and Jonathan have been posting non-stop on virtually every thread related to this debate. I don't have an exact count but anyone paying attention can see that a handful of BU or anti-core supporters have been trying to dominate the discussion through sheer volume and repetition (such as your example in this thread!). You can't take our posting count over several years as a guide, that's silly. It's the posts on this topic I'm referring to. Again, anyone reading here can see what's going on, so arguing against me on this is just going to damage your credibility with readers in general.

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[QuestionAuthority]

Why would anyone want to change anything with Bitcoin right now? Almost no one is spending Bitcoin. The daily transaction volume has fluctuated in the same range since October 2016 and before that it hardly went up at all for several years. The daily transactions are Asian speculators driving the price through the roof. Leave everything alone and sail this boat to profitland.

 

That is not true.  Japan is starting to use Bitcoin.  Things are picking up in Venezuala, Africa... a lot of places.  If we don't increase the capacity beyond 3TPS, then Bitcoin could lose its place to Ethereum or something else.  

Daily transaction volume just doesn't support what you're saying. Sure, there have been advances in the number of businesses accepting Bitcoin but the number of people using Bitcoin hasn't followed suit.

facepalm... the volume isn't growing because we've hit the limit!  You can't put the cart before the horse.

*image without a source*

Then we hit your "invisible wall" in 2012.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

[franky1]

Wrong, segwit is opt-in, so you voluntarily use it or not.

pretending its ok to not upgrade is as bad as saying is ok to dilute the full node count down.
pretending that running prunned mode or no witness/stripped block mode allows other to sync from you.. yet the real answer is nope.

washing away all the "soft ""compatible" word bait and instead take a realistic end user view of it:
full nodes are full nodes by being forced to upgrade. but they have the opt out of segwit option to be treated as lite nodes, by doing nothing.


full node users want to be full node users for a reason.. saying the only way to be a full node is to run segwit.. is not "voluntary"
thats just fake word twisting.

blockstream need to accept if they dont get the vote, they dont get the vote.
and to not just point the finger..
but instead point their EARS to the community and listen

not just waste another year, pushing the same thing..
but instead re-code it to be a proper feature that actually is not just a half gesture 'hope' to fix

also
and if a segwit bug occured, where the blockheight was not dropped.. but devs got people to downgrade their nodes back to 0.12.. then all them segwit transactions become anyone can spends.

what their REAL desire is, is a TIER network

[jonald_fyookball]

Then we hit your "invisible wall" in 2012.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

Not sure what you mean.  Who cares what happened in 2012.  This is 2017 and we're being restricted by the 1mb blocksize.
Are you denying this?

[franky1]

3. The fact that Blockstream is one company that has some devs involved with Bitcoin is not proof that everything is controlled by them. Applying that sort of reasoning leads to all sorts of wild conclusions (because X has influence on Y, X must control Y?) that are going to be wrong 99% of the time.
Even if Blockstream has the most influence... well, of all the organizations involved with the dev community, one would be at the top of the list of influence. Why should I view that one as being more sinister than all the rest? Knock it out of the picture and you could come up with conspiracy theories for the next one, and the next one. Most everything I read from the core-haters just puts an extremely negative spin on anything core does without any sense of balance, often with a fair amount of ranting and raving. It's a real turn-off and does nothing to persuade people.
4. If you think SW so controversial, why is there so little opposition to it at https://coin.dance/poli ?
5. Franky and Jonathan have been posting non-stop on virtually every thread related to this debate. I don't have an exact count but anyone paying attention can see that a handful of BU or anti-core supporters have been trying to dominate the discussion through sheer volume and repetition (such as your example in this thread!). You can't take our posting count over several years as a guide, that's silly. It's the posts on this topic I'm referring to. Again, anyone reading here can see what's going on, so arguing against me on this is just going to damage your credibility with readers in general.

3. i laugh when you try to pretend blockstream is "one company that has some devs involved with bitcoin"
but then when anyone talks about bitcoin as a whole. you desire to proclaim that if its not blockstream(core) sanctioned its an altcoin
you fail at down playing blockstream

4. so little opposition. lol i have seen some of the yay-sayers are just some consultancy/embassy non node needing groups of wannabies. all using the same website reference like its one guy just pasting in as many names of yay-sayers as he can find.
but when it comes to the ones that are nay-sayers.. some are listed as no response.
making the pole biased. with fake listings

also you can name me and others as loud mouths. but you can only argue that we talk alot. you cannot rebut the content of the issues. because deep down you know segwit isnt perfect.

[QuestionAuthority]

Then we hit your "invisible wall" in 2012.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

Not sure what you mean.  Who cares what happened in 2012.  This is 2017 and we're being restricted by the 1mb blocksize.
Are you denying this?

The transaction volume hasn't moved by more than 150k per day in five years.

What I'm saying is who gives a shit about changing anything right now. Crayzians (crazy asians) are driving the price up faster than I've ever seen before and I've been watching this dog and pony show for more than 6 years. Even the lure of easy international drug sales direct to your door like Silk Road didn't move the price this much. Leave everything alone and watch fat stacks of cash appear in your pocket. What happens if you fuck up bitcoin and the crayzians move on? Will you be happy then?

[Alex.BTC]

1. If Vertcoin, Litecoin and other alts implement Segwit without issue, will you admit you are wrong and drop your opposition to SW on Bitcoin?

That's the probem with shills, they don't even understand the code and where the actual problem is, but they have to keep opening their mouths.

Look at the code, don't look at other people. If the code is flawed, it's flawed anywhere it's used. If you don't understand the code, then you don't understand the problem, then don't argue about it.

2. I suppose someone can be hostile to the general bitcoin development community ("core") without being a support of BU. But it's a natural mistake to make in the present environment. Ironically I define myself as "anti-BU" and not "pro-core" in much the same way you define yourself as "anti-core" but not "pro-BU". So your point is well taken, but I hope you take it to heart as well  because it works both ways.

A whole paragraph of nothing. It's your ignorance towards actual problems that got you the shill title, not your emotion, fashion choices, or any other personal preferences, it's your attitude towards facts and simple logic, the way you kept dancing around them while waving your hands kicking bullshit into the air hoping everyone will get distracted.

3. The fact that Blockstream is one company that has some devs involved with Bitcoin is not proof that everything is controlled by them. Applying that sort of reasoning leads to all sorts of wild conclusions (because X has influence on Y, X must control Y?) that are going to be wrong 99% of the time.
Even if Blockstream has the most influence... well, of all the organizations involved with the dev community, one would be at the top of the list of influence. Why should I view that one as being more sinister than all the rest? Knock it out of the picture and you could come up with conspiracy theories for the next one, and the next one. Most everything I read from the core-haters just puts an extremely negative spin on anything core does without any sense of balance, often with a fair amount of ranting and raving. It's a real turn-off and does nothing to persuade people.

Shills always like to play dumb, I don't get it, they actually think they can get away with it.

I am just going to quote franky here:

?? blockstream devs have no control ??

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

People wishing to submit BIPs, first should propose their idea or document to the mailing list. After discussion they should email Luke Dashjr <luke_bipeditor@dashjr.org>. After copy-editing and acceptance, it will be published here.

luke JR.. oh look blockstream (p.s just a couple months ago it was gmax)

hmm who moderates the mailing list
https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/bitcoin-dev-moderation

To post a message to all the list members, send email to bitcoin-dev-moderation@lists.ozlabs.org.
Bitcoin-dev-moderation list run by rusty at rustcorp.com.au
 

ozlabs... i wonder... oh look rusty russel

so thats LJR and RR of blockstream employment.
so whats next. hmm
oh the technical discussion category on this forum
oh look gmaxwell

so thats LJR,  RR and GM of blockstream employment.

And this, Blockstream/Core closed pull requests on blocksize increase within minutes:
0.14 with 2Mb block size #10014
Update consensus.h #10092
Do you guys need assistance updating that block size? #10028

One of them was closed by Blockstream co-founder Pieter Wuille (sipa).
One of them was set to 'locked and limited conversation to collaborators'
One of them was closed in 5-7 minutes, like they had bots watching or something.

Meanwhile the stupidest useless pull requests stay open for months.

4. If you think SW so controversial, why is there so little opposition to it at https://coin.dance/poli ?

<innocent retard mode>If it's not controversial, why does it have less support than BU?</innocent retard mode>

This is exactly the kind of bullshit I am just tired of.
Do your research, use common sense, don't talk bullshit, don't play dumb, don't ask stupid questions.
If you have to shill, then shill, but don't act like a smart ass then play dumb.

5. Franky and Jonathan have been posting non-stop on virtually every thread related to this debate. I don't have an exact count but anyone paying attention can see that a handful of BU or anti-core supporters have been trying to dominate the discussion through sheer volume and repetition (such as your example in this thread!). You can't take our posting count over several years as a guide, that's silly. It's the posts on this topic I'm referring to. Again, anyone reading here can see what's going on, so arguing against me on this is just going to damage your credibility with readers in general.

If you know post count doesn't mean anything then why did you even bring it up?

FFS It's like amateur hour here.

Anyone reading here can see a Blockstream shill trying to play bullshit gymnastics.

When shills run out of actual answers, they often pretend they can speak for everyone.
'Oh look I can't even defend my own bullshit but I'll just pretend everyone already agrees with me.'
Really it's just pathetic.

[jonald_fyookball]

Then we hit your "invisible wall" in 2012.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

Not sure what you mean.  Who cares what happened in 2012.  This is 2017 and we're being restricted by the 1mb blocksize.
Are you denying this?

The transaction volume hasn't moved by more than 150k per day in five years.

What I'm saying is who gives a shit about changing anything right now. Crayzians (crazy asians) are driving the price up faster than I've ever seen before and I've been watching this dog and pony show for more than 6 years. Even the lure of easy international drug sales direct to your door like Silk Road didn't move the price this much. Leave everything alone and watch fat stacks of cash appear in your pocket. What happens if you fuck up bitcoin and the crayzians move on? Will you be happy then?

there's been increasing periods of congestion (high confirmation times and a huge mempool) which is easily exploited by spammers, transaction fees have skyrocketed, Bitcoin marketcap share has dropped from 95% to 66%... Businesses like Del and Fiverr are dropping Bitcoin... its getting worse and worse fundamentally.

Do you want to wait before the house completely burns down before calling the fire company?

You say you've been wathcing Bitcoin for 6 years but you seem really out of touch with the reality of the situation here.

[QuestionAuthority]

Then we hit your "invisible wall" in 2012.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

Not sure what you mean.  Who cares what happened in 2012.  This is 2017 and we're being restricted by the 1mb blocksize.
Are you denying this?

The transaction volume hasn't moved by more than 150k per day in five years.

What I'm saying is who gives a shit about changing anything right now. Crayzians (crazy asians) are driving the price up faster than I've ever seen before and I've been watching this dog and pony show for more than 6 years. Even the lure of easy international drug sales direct to your door like Silk Road didn't move the price this much. Leave everything alone and watch fat stacks of cash appear in your pocket. What happens if you fuck up bitcoin and the crayzians move on? Will you be happy then?

there's been increasing periods of congestion (high confirmation times and a huge mempool) which is easily exploited by spammers, transaction fees have skyrocketed, Bitcoin marketcap share has dropped from 95% to 66%... Businesses like Del and Fiverr are dropping Bitcoin... its getting worse and worse fundamentally.

Do you want to wait before the house completely burns down before calling the fire company?

You say you've been wathcing Bitcoin for 6 years but you seem really out of touch with the reality of the situation here.

Wow, you really are a bit of a drama queen.

There has never been a bigger spammer than Erik Voorhees and his SatoshiDice spam and Bitcoin survived just fine. Businesses are dumping Bitcoin because no one spends Bitcoin. Drug addicts are the only ones that have ever seen much value in jumping through all the hoops to buy Bitcoin to spend it instead of just using your debit card or credit card. No one spends Bitcoin and day traders (currently crayzians) are trading on an exchange that handles the internal transactions quickly and only reconciles them on the blockchain when someone cashes out or buys in so who gives a crap about confirmation times. I don't give a shit about someone waiting to buy a cup of coffee because they're not currently making me any money.

Changing Bitcoin in the middle of a run up is just nuts. Wait until the price starts to crash and I cash out again then do whatever you want with it.

[jonald_fyookball]

Wow, you really are a bit of a drama queen.

There has never been a bigger spammer than Erik Voorhees and his SatoshiDice spam and Bitcoin survived just fine. Businesses are dumping Bitcoin because no one spends Bitcoin. Drug addicts are the only ones that have ever seen much value in jumping through all the hoops to buy Bitcoin to spend it instead of just using your debit card or credit card. No one spends Bitcoin and day traders (currently crayzians) are trading on an exchange that handles the internal transactions quickly and only reconciles them on the blockchain when someone cashes out or buys in so who gives a crap about confirmation times. I don't give a shit about someone waiting to buy a cup of coffee because they're not currently making me any money.

Changing Bitcoin in the middle of a run up is just nuts. Wait until the price starts to crash and I cash out again then do whatever you want with it.

You've never give much of a shit about anything have you? 

You're dancing around the issue -- whatever you think about Erik Vorhees and day traders and drug users is irrelevant.  The data (avg block size over time) speaks
for itself.

You are also incorrect that the person buying coffee isn't making you money.  The more people that want to bitcoin, the more demand it has.  That makes the price go up, genius.

If you want to be one of those "I thnk bitcoin should be gold 2.0 and I want Bitcoin to be a settlement layer" people, then just say so...but don't sit here and tell me blocks aren't full because
when you do that you just sound like a shill/idiot.

[QuestionAuthority]

Wow, you really are a bit of a drama queen.

There has never been a bigger spammer than Erik Voorhees and his SatoshiDice spam and Bitcoin survived just fine. Businesses are dumping Bitcoin because no one spends Bitcoin. Drug addicts are the only ones that have ever seen much value in jumping through all the hoops to buy Bitcoin to spend it instead of just using your debit card or credit card. No one spends Bitcoin and day traders (currently crayzians) are trading on an exchange that handles the internal transactions quickly and only reconciles them on the blockchain when someone cashes out or buys in so who gives a crap about confirmation times. I don't give a shit about someone waiting to buy a cup of coffee because they're not currently making me any money.

Changing Bitcoin in the middle of a run up is just nuts. Wait until the price starts to crash and I cash out again then do whatever you want with it.

You've never give much of a shit about anything have you?  

You're dancing around the issue -- whatever you think about Erik Vorhees and day traders and drug users is irrelevant.  The data (avg block size over time) speaks
for itself.

You are also incorrect that the person buying coffee isn't making you money.  The more people that want to bitcoin, the more demand it has.  That makes the price go up, genius.

If you want to be one of those "I thnk bitcoin should be gold 2.0 and I want Bitcoin to be a settlement layer" people, then just say so...but don't sit here and tell me blocks aren't full because
when you do that you just sound like a shill/idiot.

I've always cared about the same thing, the value of my wallet.

There's no proof that many people are spending Bitcoin. A large chunk of the daily transactions are small miners getting paid from the pools. Another large chunk are exchanges reconciling trader accounts. Can you show me this massive amount of individual users buying Frappuccinos because I've already given you a link that can show you daily transactions going back 5 years?

I never claimed that block size wasn't going up. I never claimed that increasing block size wasn't a good idea. I never claimed to care about changing Bitcoin to Segwit or BU. I don't care if you personally suck off Joseph Poon until the Lightning Network becomes a household word. I just want Bitcoin to stand pat until the crayzians finish driving the exchange rate through the roof.

[jonald_fyookball]

  I just want Bitcoin to stand pat until the crayzians finish driving the exchange rate through the roof.

Why, so you can cash out at $1700?

I'm in it for much more than that...

Going back to your question

Why would anyone want to change anything with Bitcoin right now?

That's the only way we're going to get to here ==>

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-could-be-500000-by-2030-first-snapchat-investor-says-2017-3

[QuestionAuthority]

  I just want Bitcoin to stand pat until the crayzians finish driving the exchange rate through the roof.

Why, so you can cash out at $1700?

I'm in it for much more than that...

Going back to your question

Why would anyone want to change anything with Bitcoin right now?

That's the only way we're going to get to here ==>

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-could-be-500000-by-2030-first-snapchat-investor-says-2017-3

Of course, so we can all cash out at $1,700 and do it again.

Here's the deal with trading:

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $100,000 then you can buy one share. To double your money its value needs to go to $200,000 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $10,000,000 a share.

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $2 then you can buy 50,000 shares. To double your money it needs to go to $4 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $200 a share.

Which of the 100x scenarios do you think is more likely in your lifetime?


Here's my comment in the thread discussing that stupidity:

I can see the price going that high by 2030 if a loaf of bread is $200,000.

The only thing that makes me question this analysis is the fact that he pulled bitcoins userbase numbers straight out of his ass. Daily transaction volume for the last few years certainly doesn't support his numbers.

[zimmah]

Why would anyone want to change anything with Bitcoin right now? Almost no one is spending Bitcoin. The daily transaction volume has fluctuated in the same range since October 2016 and before that it hardly went up at all for several years. The daily transactions are Asian speculators driving the price through the roof. Leave everything alone and sail this boat to profitland.

 

That is not true.  Japan is starting to use Bitcoin.  Things are picking up in Venezuala, Africa... a lot of places.  If we don't increase the capacity beyond 3TPS, then Bitcoin could lose its place to Ethereum or something else. 

Daily transaction volume just doesn't support what you're saying. Sure, there have been advances in the number of businesses accepting Bitcoin but the number of people using Bitcoin hasn't followed suit.

facepalm... the volume isn't growing because we've hit the limit!  You can't put the cart before the horse.

Exactly. the easiest solution is usually the best. And in this case, the easiest solution is to just increase the blocksize.   

As for other improvements, FlexTrans is better then SegWit in every possible way. But that's really a discussion for later. 

First we need to grow.   

At this rate we're just arbitrarily limiting the growth of bitcoin.

[zimmah]

Of course, so we can all cash out at $1,700 and do it again.

Here's the deal with trading:

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $100,000 then you can buy one share. To double your money its value needs to go to $200,000 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $10,000,000 a share.

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $2 then you can buy 50,000 shares. To double your money it needs to go to $4 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $200 a share.

Which of the 100x scenarios do you think is more likely in your lifetime?

Both are equally likely.   
Also, neither of the examples are about trading, they're both about investing long term.     
   
Trading would be buying at $100, selling at $200 and buying back at $150, then selling at $300.   
Which would make a much bigger profit, but comes at much greater risk.

[QuestionAuthority]

Of course, so we can all cash out at $1,700 and do it again.

Here's the deal with trading:

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $100,000 then you can buy one share. To double your money its value needs to go to $200,000 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $10,000,000 a share.

If you have $100,000 to spend and you buy a commodity worth $2 then you can buy 50,000 shares. To double your money it needs to go to $4 a share. To make 100x increase in your investment it needs to go to $200 a share.

Which of the 100x scenarios do you think is more likely in your lifetime?

Both are equally likely.   
Also, neither of the examples are about trading, they're both about investing long term.     
   
Trading would be buying at $100, selling at $200 and buying back at $150, then selling at $300.   
Which would make a much bigger profit, but comes at much greater risk.

Sure, if investing long term means "a year or two" and not "beyond my lifetime". I really don't care how much Bitcoin is worth when I'm dead.

You're right, day trading, forex trading is too risky. I guess I do mean short term investing.

[jonald_fyookball]

Of course, so we can all cash out at $1,700 and do it again.

 

I am an active trader but not with cryptocurrency.
For me Bitcoin is a long term investment.  

I guess if you do not care about Bitcoin as a long term investment, your position makes sense.
I mistakenly assumed you did.

But you made the same mistake assuming others think like you, which is
why you didn't understand why we feel something should be done.

[Lauda]

OP, you made a grave mistake by not self-moderating this thread. Anything that is even remotely positive about Segwit or Bitcoin Core, even when we are talking about *facts*, will get smashed by the group of hired goons. You can find them in all related threads, see: franky, jonald, Alex, kiklo. There are some that occasionally come and go, see: zimmah.
This thread is already flooded with such responses, even though the article mentions *some factual improvements*.

[jonald_fyookball]

OP, you made a grave mistake by not self-moderating this thread. Anything that is even remotely positive about Segwit or Bitcoin Core, even when we are talking about *facts*, will get smashed by the group of hired goons. You can find them in all related threads, see: franky, jonald, Alex, kiklo. There are some that occasionally come and go, see: zimmah.
This thread is already flooded with such responses, even though the article mentions *some factual improvements*.

Lauda, you're a dishonest clown as usual.  I never said one negative thing about segwit here. 
 

[Alex.BTC]

OP, you made a grave mistake by not self-moderating this thread. Anything that is even remotely positive about Segwit or Bitcoin Core, even when we are talking about *facts*, will get smashed by the group of hired goons. You can find them in all related threads, see: franky, jonald, Alex, kiklo. There are some that occasionally come and go, see: zimmah.
This thread is already flooded with such responses, even though the article mentions *some factual improvements*.

Lauda, you should know one of the reasons I started posting here, other than Greg's idiotic reply to DGulari, was that I noticed you were trolling nonstop at people who were clearly the voice of reason here.

Some select quotes:

to:Cashew
Simply put, you are a complete baboon with the education level of a western primary school kid.

to:jonald_fyookball
Stop spamming the board with your bullshit.

to:franky1
As soon as you stop accepting payment for your posts.

So I took out my titanium fact hammer and started smashing every god damn shill I saw in the mouth for 2 weeks. I think things got a little better after that.

I see your mouth has begun to heal so it is itchy again.