No SegWit? No $10k Bitcoin. It's that simple..

[spartacusrex]

The market has decided. Whether or not you have.

Core, BU, Classic, XT.. blah blah blah.

You can't fight the market. Or you'll lose.

And right now.. we're ALL losing.

[crazyivan]

? What s the point of this post? What do you want to say? SegWit will take place, as soon as LTC or Vert or something else successfuly implements it, BTC will follow.

More importantly BTC price will follow. Look what happened with LTC and Vert prices. Once this issue is behind us, we ll see $2k per BTC.

It s that simple. 

[spartacusrex]

SegWit will take place..

Lol.

[ASHLIUSZ]

? What s the point of this post? What do you want to say? SegWit will take place, as soon as LTC or Vert or something else successfuly implements it, BTC will follow.

More importantly BTC price will follow. Look what happened with LTC and Vert prices. Once this issue is behind us, we ll see $2k per BTC.

It s that simple. 

As stated once after segwit activation is experienced on Litecoin, bitcoin might follow that. Sometimes based the technology impact even before litecoin, segwit activation happens with bitcoin. However in my opinion segwit is always good for growth and now too the ASICBOOST delays the activation.

[knircky]

The market has decided. Whether or not you have.

Core, BU, Classic, XT.. blah blah blah.

You can't fight the market. Or you'll lose.

And right now.. we're ALL losing.

The problem with segwit is that it is designed to never take place. You will never have more than a super majority for a change like this. So the designers are either stupid or don't want it to happen.

U will never have miners agree on anything with 95%. You can ask them if we should change the 21m cap and 5% will say yes.

I am supporter of segwit and want it implemented. But it would be much easier with a hf and much lower treshhold.

[OliynyK]

? What s the point of this post? What do you want to say? SegWit will take place, as soon as LTC or Vert or something else successfuly implements it, BTC will follow.
More importantly BTC price will follow. Look what happened with LTC and Vert prices. Once this issue is behind us, we ll see $2k per BTC.
It s that simple. 

As stated once after segwit activation is experienced on Litecoin, bitcoin might follow that. Sometimes based the technology impact even before litecoin, segwit activation happens with bitcoin. However in my opinion segwit is always good for growth and now too the ASICBOOST delays the activation.

Lets see what the result is in litecoin then we will think about implementing in bitcoin,ASIC boost is not a new phenomena and it is there for sometime now ,hardware manufacturers always have their tricks in the trade and it is good to see that it is thrown that face in the public and i am not sure whether only segwit activation could prevent those hacks.

[coolcoinz]

The market has decided. Whether or not you have.

Core, BU, Classic, XT.. blah blah blah.

You can't fight the market. Or you'll lose.

And right now.. we're ALL losing.

The problem with segwit is that it is designed to never take place. You will never have more than a super majority for a change like this. So the designers are either stupid or don't want it to happen.

U will never have miners agree on anything with 95%. You can ask them if we should change the 21m cap and 5% will say yes.

I am supporter of segwit and want it implemented. But it would be much easier with a hf and much lower treshhold.

I think you might be right. There will always be that 5% of people who want to see the world burn. They won't follow the rest just to be different, to show they are individualistic nonconformists.
The percentage should be lowered to at least 80%, which already is a vast majority. If politicians need only 51% and it's considered fair, why do we need 95?

[Miz4r]

95% has been reached in soft forks before in Bitcoin, so it's not impossible. The only reason we can't reach 95% now is because of politics and Jihan Wu aka Bitmain actively blocking it for their own reasons. That's why the users have to pick up the ball now and UASF Segwit in. We'll see how Litecoin manages to do this first and then Bitcoin will surely follow. History is being made here folks, keep your eyes wide open.

[BitHodler]

? What s the point of this post? What do you want to say? SegWit will take place, as soon as LTC or Vert or something else successfuly implements it, BTC will follow.

More importantly BTC price will follow. Look what happened with LTC and Vert prices. Once this issue is behind us, we ll see $2k per BTC.

It s that simple. 

Bitcoin won't follow unless pools are willing to do so. It's not that there is a waiting line where one coin after the other gets SegWit activated. You as legendary member should know that.

Other than that, it's obvious that something needs to be done. That's why the hate towards pools is only growing and growing. They are the one causing all the problems here. It needs to stop ASAP!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

SegWit will happen one way or another imo. It's just a matter of time.

[Meuh6879]

Agree.

[shinratensei_]

The market has decided. Whether or not you have.

Core, BU, Classic, XT.. blah blah blah.

You can't fight the market. Or you'll lose.

And right now.. we're ALL losing.

We're all not losing the chance to get BTC SegWit in the future. UASF is the way for both Bitcoin SegWit and LTC SegWit to be activated in the future. 

Say no to Hashrate and nodes power. Just keep our eyes on the exact date. We will get SegWit on both of the gold and silver coins in the crypto world.

[iamnotback]

WARNING....



I have a new theory on what Jihan's strategy may be...

Re: What does everyone think on Iamnotbacks view on Jihan and current UASF situation

Jihan has full control over segwit in LTC too. The only way BTC or LTC can get segwit is UASF. UASF will get more and more support overtime. People are just not going to sit back and see how BTC becomes useless for 99.99% of population, so JihanChain will not get any support.

I don't know if Jihan plans to try block SegWit entirely from Litecoin. I don't understand what his motivation to do that would be. It seems insane.

But I will say that none of your UASF shit will work. So Jihan might be trying to create a fight with you so that he can take your LTC and BTC from you. The more I think about this, the more I realize he may be trying to draw you UASF retards into a fork war trap so he can strip you of your wealth. Everybody who values the value of blockchains will sell the UASF fork, because democracy totally devalues blockchains and makes them worthless. I think Jihan wants to make money while also making an ideological point. It is survival-of-the-fittest and he wants to impoverish all those who don't understand that immutability is what makes blockchains valuable and democracy is what makes everything bankrupt, untrustable, and valueless. However, after bankrupting all the USAF, BU, Blockstream retards, I think he might allow SegWit to proceed on Litecoin as its final upgrade (because otherwise scaling will move to another altcoin which he can't profit on). I think he may be stalling and playing shenanigans not only to maximize profit interim, but also to instigate a fork fight with retards, so he can once and for all teach them they can never succeed. What better way to teach than by taking all their money. I try to teach with words. Jihan is more efficient. He understands that men understand spanking better than words.

Interesting discussion going on over there... (click the quote if you're interested to go read the context)

Also BTC will not be used by billionaires only, that's stupid, people will demand changes so bitcoin cannot be used only by a handful of people on earth. If it takes UASF then UASF will happen so segwit + LN can happen and everyone can use bitcoin, additional blocksize increases will come too. Nobody will support the "billionares only blockchain", that's stupid.

Sorry you can't do anything to stop it:

...such nonsense as UASF.

Cry and scream all you want. You are wasting your time fighting what is inevitable.

Soon you will realize this. Go ahead and try. My popcorn is laughing.

It's as easy as UASF + PoW change with a new solution such as randomly changing algorithm to avoid efficient ASIC stacking.

"BillionaireChain" used by 2,000 people on earth will be seen as a joke by the rest of the population and it will no longer be Bitcoin. Progress will move on.

None of your democracy shenanigans will prosper. But feel free to lose all your wealth trying.

The opinion of the masses does not matter, if we presume that fungible money will remain supreme in the economy.

I have one alternative to offer which is the theory that the economy will bifurcate into fungible money driven tangible economy and a knowledge age economy in Inverse Commons. The latter is what my BitNet project is about. If I am correct, then that will be our only alternative.

But don't believe me. Please go waste your time and lose all your wealth. The smart money is starting to recognize my expertise. Please do your own due diligence.

[ArdiPrabowo]

Agree.

but about bitcoins block bitcoin unlimited still above segwit
this now segwit only 28% and bitcoin unlimited 35%

[Meuh6879]

and you thinks that generate "more than 1Mb" block ... will be accept by segwit nodes (80% of the Bitcoin network) ?










No.
Like the unicorn don't exist in the real world.

[Kprawn]

SegWit will put the foot in the door, but the Lightning Network will open the Door. So we still have a mountain to climb to get even close to the

stage where we can expect that the scaling issues will be a thing of the past. The scaling issue is the one thing that are holding back Bitcoin as

a true payment network. { One that can be a competitor to VISA or PayPal or any other payment solution }

[zimmah]

It's funny because without this blocksize debate started by Core we would have been over $10,000 by now.

[~Bitcoin~]

The market has decided. Whether or not you have.

Core, BU, Classic, XT.. blah blah blah.

You can't fight the market. Or you'll lose.

And right now.. we're ALL losing.

Market looks positive right now, it is recovering from FUD about hard fork.

BU, Classic, XT can be listed as altcoin when they will split the bitcoin network in future.

Market is war zone so the one who can fight will make profit  

Just hold bitcoin, you will never loss.  

[btcxyzzz]

No Blockstream? 100k Bitcoin by now.

[york780]

No Blockstream? 100k Bitcoin by now.

Confirmed.