Bitcoin Forum
April 24, 2024, 08:53:40 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Allinvain $500,000 theft & Black Friday related? CIA / Banker Attacks?  (Read 19567 times)
Mageant
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1145
Merit: 1001



View Profile WWW
June 19, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
 #101

The main point to consider is what effect this is having psychologically on the mass population.

In hypnotism, post hypnotic suggestion is very powerful and the power advertising has on the subconscious mind, how much $$ is spent on this alone, should say volumes to it's potential to overcome the mind.

The population will from here onwards, associate the words, "All in Vain" with bitcoins. This is a subconscious program being run on the unwitting and uneducated, and it all works through the subconscious.

I find it far too difficult to believe the synchronicity of his name, (All in Vain), the theft that happened to him, and the media attention afterwards. That when coincidence becomes conspiracy in my book.

This was intended to be a psychological operation on the population. IMO
It's possible, but that must have been some incredible foresight, because the account was created a year ago.

cjgames.com
1713992020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1713992020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1713992020
Reply with quote  #2

1713992020
Report to moderator
1713992020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1713992020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1713992020
Reply with quote  #2

1713992020
Report to moderator
1713992020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1713992020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1713992020
Reply with quote  #2

1713992020
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:19:48 AM
 #102

The main point to consider is what effect this is having psychologically on the mass population.

In hypnotism, post hypnotic suggestion is very powerful and the power advertising has on the subconscious mind, how much $$ is spent on this alone, should say volumes to it's potential to overcome the mind.

The population will from here onwards, associate the words, "All in Vain" with bitcoins. This is a subconscious program being run on the unwitting and uneducated, and it all works through the subconscious.

I find it far too difficult to believe the synchronicity of his name, (All in Vain), the theft that happened to him, and the media attention afterwards. That when coincidence becomes conspiracy in my book.

This was intended to be a psychological operation on the population. IMO
It's possible, but that must have been some incredible foresight, because the account was created a year ago.


100 Billion dollars a year is spent on military foresight, the RAND corporation plans wars decades ahead of time, and who do they work for? The Bankers.

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
Swishercutter
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 210
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:23:18 AM
 #103

The main point to consider is what effect this is having psychologically on the mass population.

In hypnotism, post hypnotic suggestion is very powerful and the power advertising has on the subconscious mind, how much $$ is spent on this alone, should say volumes to it's potential to overcome the mind.

The population will from here onwards, associate the words, "All in Vain" with bitcoins. This is a subconscious program being run on the unwitting and uneducated, and it all works through the subconscious.

I find it far too difficult to believe the synchronicity of his name, (All in Vain), the theft that happened to him, and the media attention afterwards. That when coincidence becomes conspiracy in my book.

This was intended to be a psychological operation on the population. IMO
It's possible, but that must have been some incredible foresight, because the account was created a year ago.


100 Billion dollars a year is spent on military foresight, the RAND corporation plans wars decades ahead of time, and who do they work for? The Bankers.

...and if he was truly an early adopter he could have got those BTC for 2 pizzas...right?  So very little initial cost by planning ahead...if BTC tanked then their loss for preparing in advance would have been like $20 and a forum registration.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:23:46 AM
 #104

another "unsubstantiated" report -- Maybe the first "hit piece" against bitcoin, RIGHT BEFORE the Wired and Gawker articles appeared on June 1. More fishy timing here.

http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/

Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed
By Jerry Brito on May 23, 2011

There are unconfirmed reports today that at least one Bitcoin miner has been raided by police because unusually high power consumption led authorities to suspect that he was clandestinely growing marijuana. The tip comes from an IRC chat captured by blogger Mike Esspe, though there are no corroborating details.

Bitcoin is the anonymous virtual currency that uses distributed computing power to validate transactions. Users who dedicate their CPU cycles to the network are potentially rewarded with Bitcoins. It's like gold mining, except that instead of digging, a miner uses cryptographic math.

Like marijuana growing operations, Bitcoin mining runs up high electricity bills and produces a lot of heat because it employs super-fast computers. High power consumption has previously alerted police to marijuana growing operations and led to busts.

According to one Bitcoin mining blog, “The Canadian town of Mission, B.C. has a bylaw that allows the town's Public Safety Inspection Team to search people's homes for grow ops if they are using more than 93 kWh of electricity per day.”

While it's unlikely that police will be surveilling the power usage of private residences as a matter of course, it is possible that police will look to electric bills and heat radiation to confirm a suspicion. But increasingly ubiquitous prosumer computing could well lead to false positives, not just for Bitcoin miners, but for hardcore gamers, as well as anyone running video rendering farms or web servers from home. It will be interesting to see how courts will adapt to such uses when interpreting reasonable suspicion standards.

Read more: http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/#ixzz1PgGMBvFX

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:27:54 AM
 #105

The main point to consider is what effect this is having psychologically on the mass population.

In hypnotism, post hypnotic suggestion is very powerful and the power advertising has on the subconscious mind, how much $$ is spent on this alone, should say volumes to it's potential to overcome the mind.

The population will from here onwards, associate the words, "All in Vain" with bitcoins. This is a subconscious program being run on the unwitting and uneducated, and it all works through the subconscious.

I find it far too difficult to believe the synchronicity of his name, (All in Vain), the theft that happened to him, and the media attention afterwards. That when coincidence becomes conspiracy in my book.

This was intended to be a psychological operation on the population. IMO
It's possible, but that must have been some incredible foresight, because the account was created a year ago.


100 Billion dollars a year is spent on military foresight, the RAND corporation plans wars decades ahead of time, and who do they work for? The Bankers.

...and if he was truly an early adopter he could have got those BTC for 2 pizzas...right?  So very little initial cost by planning ahead...if BTC tanked then their loss for preparing in advance would have been like $20 and a forum registration.

Exactly! and like I stated previously, to purchase 25,000 bitcoins even at .25 each, would only have cost them $6000, which would have been nothing to invest, to make a transfer from one of their accounts, to another one. Then plant the story on the forum. From there on, any media outlet that is co opted, which is 90% of them, can take the story and run with it.


Read more: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/week-in-tech-full-speed-ahead-on-the-lulzboat.ars

"A risky currency? Alleged $500,000 Bitcoin heist raises questions: A longtime Bitcoin user claims that a hacker has stolen half a million dollars worth of virtual currency. The story highlights the risks of using a financial system without intermediaries."



Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
Swishercutter
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 210
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:32:34 AM
 #106

another "unsubstantiated" report -- Maybe the first "hit piece" against bitcoin, RIGHT BEFORE the Wired and Gawker articles appeared on June 1. More fishy timing here.

http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/

Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed
By Jerry Brito on May 23, 2011

There are unconfirmed reports today that at least one Bitcoin miner has been raided by police because unusually high power consumption led authorities to suspect that he was clandestinely growing marijuana. The tip comes from an IRC chat captured by blogger Mike Esspe, though there are no corroborating details.

Bitcoin is the anonymous virtual currency that uses distributed computing power to validate transactions. Users who dedicate their CPU cycles to the network are potentially rewarded with Bitcoins. It's like gold mining, except that instead of digging, a miner uses cryptographic math.

Like marijuana growing operations, Bitcoin mining runs up high electricity bills and produces a lot of heat because it employs super-fast computers. High power consumption has previously alerted police to marijuana growing operations and led to busts.

According to one Bitcoin mining blog, “The Canadian town of Mission, B.C. has a bylaw that allows the town's Public Safety Inspection Team to search people's homes for grow ops if they are using more than 93 kWh of electricity per day.”

While it's unlikely that police will be surveilling the power usage of private residences as a matter of course, it is possible that police will look to electric bills and heat radiation to confirm a suspicion. But increasingly ubiquitous prosumer computing could well lead to false positives, not just for Bitcoin miners, but for hardcore gamers, as well as anyone running video rendering farms or web servers from home. It will be interesting to see how courts will adapt to such uses when interpreting reasonable suspicion standards.

Read more: http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/#ixzz1PgGMBvFX


LOL,
The funny thing is that article brought me to revisit Bitcoin...I heard about it years ago, did nothing.  Then I was like "Is this mining really worth that power cost?" and I decided it was...so in my eyes it was a positive article.
MeSarah
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 154
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:38:46 AM
 #107

Im not sure you understood my comments. Im not sure I understand your coments bitrebel. What you discribed was in essence a community currency. In the USA that is not illegal. If you are saying that congress cant enact a law to regulate or control (or what ever terms you use) btc your wrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause . The next question is how to define commerce, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce .

Those that fear the boogy G-men should just curl up in the fetial possition and hide under their bed.

As I see it, if the US government for exmaple, were to take action it would be to regulate the exchanges. That action would not only affect btc but lindens and facebook credits (or what ever their called) and other virtual/community currencies. If might even be a good thing, helping to protect consumers. Now if you look at the 80 so years of community currencies this is unlikely.

Now lets look at if a government wants to stop btc. How would they do it. The opening shots would be to freeze the bank accounts of the exchanges. I know what your going to say next. Well they will just move somewhere else. That is true. But that will take time. Now how many exchanges are you willing to goto when each time you loose your money and btc? There will be winners and loosers in this process. Not everyone will loose everthing but some will.

This doesnt mean that bitcoins will die. They will still be used but more like a barter system. Their will be those that will give you cash for you btc.. But turning btc into cash will be alot harder. When merchants can no longer convert btc in cash easilly they will flee btc.

I fear nothing. Say it. I fear nothing.

60 GH/s BFL Single SC - Pre-Order Yours Today!
`````` Only $1299.99 - butterflylabs.com ``````
bitplane
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 321
Merit: 250

Firstbits: 1gyzhw


View Profile WWW
June 19, 2011, 01:39:42 AM
 #108

Bitrebel, I can't decide whether you're a troll or a genuine crackpot, but either way you're an asshole. Casting accusations at someone who just had their life ruined is a shitty thing to do, selfish when it's for the sake of attention whoring and just plain malicious otherwise.

How does this kind of discussion help anything? It doesn't. It's all about you masturbating your fantasy in public for your own gratification.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:46:42 AM
 #109

Bitrebel, I can't decide whether you're a troll or a genuine crackpot, but either way you're an asshole. Casting accusations at someone who just had their life ruined is a shitty thing to do, selfish when it's for the sake of attention whoring and just plain malicious otherwise.

How does this kind of discussion help anything? It doesn't. It's all about you masturbating your fantasy in public for your own gratification.

It's always the ones with 10 or 15 posts that constantly attack the messenger.
People who call other people assholes are the real assholes. People who post senseless and mean posts on other people's threads are attention whoring or just plain malicious otherwise.

How do you know AllinVain just had his life ruined, and how can you be so sure, hero of the virtual nobody and defender of cybernothing?


Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:49:15 AM
 #110

I have an idea.....

What if we offer AllinVain a bitcoin from everybody, if he is willing to reveal his identity to the world?

If someone loses $500,000 and does nothing to report it or disclose their true identity, then as far as i'm concerned, they don't exist and it never happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
gigabytecoin
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 252


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
 #111

A "conspiracy researcher" ... aka a nutbag you mean?
gigabytecoin
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 252


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:59:21 AM
 #112

Hi everyone,
   I've been a conspiracy researcher for a long time, going on 20 years or so, way before the internet was ever popular. I hate to ever accuse people of things without evidence though, but when dealing with mysterious, shadowy people online, one has to consider all possibilities.
   The biggest threat to the bankers and global power structures are alternatives to the monetary system. Most of us know these things by now. Bitcoin can challenge that power, and bring it back into the hands of the people. If it succeeds.
   In the past, every effort possible has been made to keep banking power in place. Murdering Lincoln & Kennedy. Arresting and imprisoning Bernard Von Nothous on bullshit charges. That's just the tip of the iceberg. We also know the CIA works for the Bankers as well as all congressmen and senators and elected officials. The world works for the international bankers, and bitcoin is their biggest threat. The media working for the bankers will be used to destroy bitcoin, if possible. Propaganda will be used and put into place in the most extreme efforts imaginable to stop bitcoin from being a success. We are truly up against evil people and an evil empire.
-- --

   Having said all that, I propose a possible situation that is taking place.
On June 1, approx. the Wired article came out causing bitcoin sales and value to explode, as it was reported that bitcoins were used for buying drugs online and money laundering. This could be perceived as an attempt to smash bitcoin, or it could be a sincere effort to spread the word to the underground. This is how I first learned about bitcoin. There was a thread on ATS.

Next, June 10 it was, if I remember correctly, that Black Friday happened, and bitcoins went from their gains of up to $30 each, and it was brought down to almost below $10 each. This makes bitcoin appear to be a speculative market and very volatile. Something you should not trust, according to the bankers, even though their own system is even more volatile with inflation and depression boom and bust cycles.
There was a huge selloff of hoards of bitcoins, and as they got bought up, the price rose back a bit, but the stories spread far and wide across the internet. Bitcoin Bubble Bursts!

Then just 2 days later, it's reported here and spread all over the internet, about the now famous $500,000 digital hacker heist by "AllinVain" -- -- lol, when I read this name, I had to laugh. Perfect Illuminati name. (All my work for bitcoins was in vain)

I tried to and wanted to believe him, but I smell a rat. My apologies to you "AllinVain" if I turn out to be wrong, but my intuition tells me, you work for the bankers, and the people who would like to destroy bitcoin in the long run.

AllinVain registered here in May 18, 2010, but did not post his first post, from what I can tell, until nearly a year later, just a couple months ago, on or around March 27, 2011. But, on May 19, 2010, he registered "Bitcoinexpress.com", according to his profile and the WHO is lookup. Then 3 months after his first post here, he posts that he was hacked and 25,000 bitcoins stolen.

I doubt there are many people who have 25,000 bitcoins anywhere. That's a lot! Where did they come from? Were they mined by him since the start? Could anyone mine 25,000 bitcoins if they started a year ago, with a good computer system or even several, and who, when bitcoins were worth very little, would invest a ton of money to mine many computers worth, without any indication it would pay off that well so soon? So, say they were his....or say they were bought by the CIA, secretly, either way.

Who has that many coins in one wallet? And who, immediately after realizing this, would go online to the bitcoin forum and announce to the world, they were hacked and their money is missing? That's a serious crime thta calls for serious action, not going online to a forum and telling the world, when you know full well, and most likely at least, that others out there are more interested in recovering the coins for themselves than they would be fixing this person's problem. More interesting to examine, is what effect it has had on the bitcoin community. It has send shock waves of fear through the community and that effect is what should be examined, not the theft itself. The fact that everyone is scared to death now, who know little about encryption and fear that bitcoins are not a safe way to store money. And who is the biggest proponent of this belief now?

Allinvain himself....

* First post reveals ....."Needles to say I feel like I have lost faith in bitcoin."
* second post reveals...."Early adopter my ass. God!"
* third post, same first day of supposed theft reveals ..."my slush's pool account got hacked into and someone changed the payout address" causing mining pool people to be scared as well.
*fourth post same day reveals fear mongering to windows users ..."not ever use windows for any security sensitive sites/systems."
*still in the same day reveals ..."I am almost 100% sure this was done via some security hole in windows, trojan, or something like that. So yeah most likely some pimply faced teenage hacker now has them. Ain't it wonderful? Free money for doing nothing. Who says crime doesn't pay."

Then, the wonderful banker child tells us how much he really believes in bitcoin as he reveals ...still in the first day, ....."I'm going to sell whatever bitcoins I have remaining, take it as a life lesson, and count this as a not so fun experimentation with cryptographic currency. I am then going to focus on making plain old paper dollars and store them in a bank where at least I'll have the full force of society or some central government insurance backing me up - not to mention some recourse to the law in case of any theft."

Now, I don't know about any of you, but that sounds to me like someone who had little faith in bitcoin to begin with, if they had such a mind change all in one day, spent babbling about losses online instead of doing something and taking legal action.

Next...same day ramblings....(I think this one takes the cake)...."Bitcoin is a double edged sword that is for sure. If I had all these funds in paypal I wouldn't be crying now lol..Oh god..."

I had to laugh at this, too ..."I'm looking into this as well. The thing is this happened at 12:00 in the afternoon when I was sleeping with all my doors locked. I would've noticed if someone physically had access to my computer. Also maybe someone stole the wallet earlier? I have to serious do some searching into who was at my place over the last month." -- Yeah, you should check yourself, AllinVain, i'll bet the coins are at CIA headquarters, in your proxy bitcoin wallet.

This is sad if it actually happened to AllinVain, and all his work was in vain. But if I look at it from a bankers attack perspective, it works prefect to help destroy bitcoin. Especially with all the bad press now on safety following the bad press on Black friday, following the bad press on drug sales and money laundering.....something is fishy to me. I smell a ratfish.

Well, i'll post more evidence here as I get it, but I felt since there are 5 threads already trying to help this guy, maybe someone should look out for the rest of the community.

I'm not attacking AllinVain, BTW, and I sincerely hope i'm wrong. Im simply pointing out another flaw or risk in the program. Our own gullibility.

I also welcome AllinVain to step forward and offer some real evidence, if possible, like the proof of a police report or screenshots from his logfiles. I don't really know what can be done to prove it, but that alone is suspicious to me.

Any thoughts, people?

Illuminati??? OMFG.... I'm out.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 01:59:53 AM
 #113

A "conspiracy researcher" ... aka a nutbag you mean?

Well can you tell us why you believe the story as opposed to not believing him?

What makes you think he's telling the truth? Because he claims to be?

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:00:59 AM
 #114

Hi everyone,
   I've been a conspiracy researcher for a long time, going on 20 years or so, way before the internet was ever popular. I hate to ever accuse people of things without evidence though, but when dealing with mysterious, shadowy people online, one has to consider all possibilities.
   The biggest threat to the bankers and global power structures are alternatives to the monetary system. Most of us know these things by now. Bitcoin can challenge that power, and bring it back into the hands of the people. If it succeeds.
   In the past, every effort possible has been made to keep banking power in place. Murdering Lincoln & Kennedy. Arresting and imprisoning Bernard Von Nothous on bullshit charges. That's just the tip of the iceberg. We also know the CIA works for the Bankers as well as all congressmen and senators and elected officials. The world works for the international bankers, and bitcoin is their biggest threat. The media working for the bankers will be used to destroy bitcoin, if possible. Propaganda will be used and put into place in the most extreme efforts imaginable to stop bitcoin from being a success. We are truly up against evil people and an evil empire.
-- --

   Having said all that, I propose a possible situation that is taking place.
On June 1, approx. the Wired article came out causing bitcoin sales and value to explode, as it was reported that bitcoins were used for buying drugs online and money laundering. This could be perceived as an attempt to smash bitcoin, or it could be a sincere effort to spread the word to the underground. This is how I first learned about bitcoin. There was a thread on ATS.

Next, June 10 it was, if I remember correctly, that Black Friday happened, and bitcoins went from their gains of up to $30 each, and it was brought down to almost below $10 each. This makes bitcoin appear to be a speculative market and very volatile. Something you should not trust, according to the bankers, even though their own system is even more volatile with inflation and depression boom and bust cycles.
There was a huge selloff of hoards of bitcoins, and as they got bought up, the price rose back a bit, but the stories spread far and wide across the internet. Bitcoin Bubble Bursts!

Then just 2 days later, it's reported here and spread all over the internet, about the now famous $500,000 digital hacker heist by "AllinVain" -- -- lol, when I read this name, I had to laugh. Perfect Illuminati name. (All my work for bitcoins was in vain)

I tried to and wanted to believe him, but I smell a rat. My apologies to you "AllinVain" if I turn out to be wrong, but my intuition tells me, you work for the bankers, and the people who would like to destroy bitcoin in the long run.

AllinVain registered here in May 18, 2010, but did not post his first post, from what I can tell, until nearly a year later, just a couple months ago, on or around March 27, 2011. But, on May 19, 2010, he registered "Bitcoinexpress.com", according to his profile and the WHO is lookup. Then 3 months after his first post here, he posts that he was hacked and 25,000 bitcoins stolen.

I doubt there are many people who have 25,000 bitcoins anywhere. That's a lot! Where did they come from? Were they mined by him since the start? Could anyone mine 25,000 bitcoins if they started a year ago, with a good computer system or even several, and who, when bitcoins were worth very little, would invest a ton of money to mine many computers worth, without any indication it would pay off that well so soon? So, say they were his....or say they were bought by the CIA, secretly, either way.

Who has that many coins in one wallet? And who, immediately after realizing this, would go online to the bitcoin forum and announce to the world, they were hacked and their money is missing? That's a serious crime thta calls for serious action, not going online to a forum and telling the world, when you know full well, and most likely at least, that others out there are more interested in recovering the coins for themselves than they would be fixing this person's problem. More interesting to examine, is what effect it has had on the bitcoin community. It has send shock waves of fear through the community and that effect is what should be examined, not the theft itself. The fact that everyone is scared to death now, who know little about encryption and fear that bitcoins are not a safe way to store money. And who is the biggest proponent of this belief now?

Allinvain himself....

* First post reveals ....."Needles to say I feel like I have lost faith in bitcoin."
* second post reveals...."Early adopter my ass. God!"
* third post, same first day of supposed theft reveals ..."my slush's pool account got hacked into and someone changed the payout address" causing mining pool people to be scared as well.
*fourth post same day reveals fear mongering to windows users ..."not ever use windows for any security sensitive sites/systems."
*still in the same day reveals ..."I am almost 100% sure this was done via some security hole in windows, trojan, or something like that. So yeah most likely some pimply faced teenage hacker now has them. Ain't it wonderful? Free money for doing nothing. Who says crime doesn't pay."

Then, the wonderful banker child tells us how much he really believes in bitcoin as he reveals ...still in the first day, ....."I'm going to sell whatever bitcoins I have remaining, take it as a life lesson, and count this as a not so fun experimentation with cryptographic currency. I am then going to focus on making plain old paper dollars and store them in a bank where at least I'll have the full force of society or some central government insurance backing me up - not to mention some recourse to the law in case of any theft."

Now, I don't know about any of you, but that sounds to me like someone who had little faith in bitcoin to begin with, if they had such a mind change all in one day, spent babbling about losses online instead of doing something and taking legal action.

Next...same day ramblings....(I think this one takes the cake)...."Bitcoin is a double edged sword that is for sure. If I had all these funds in paypal I wouldn't be crying now lol..Oh god..."

I had to laugh at this, too ..."I'm looking into this as well. The thing is this happened at 12:00 in the afternoon when I was sleeping with all my doors locked. I would've noticed if someone physically had access to my computer. Also maybe someone stole the wallet earlier? I have to serious do some searching into who was at my place over the last month." -- Yeah, you should check yourself, AllinVain, i'll bet the coins are at CIA headquarters, in your proxy bitcoin wallet.

This is sad if it actually happened to AllinVain, and all his work was in vain. But if I look at it from a bankers attack perspective, it works prefect to help destroy bitcoin. Especially with all the bad press now on safety following the bad press on Black friday, following the bad press on drug sales and money laundering.....something is fishy to me. I smell a ratfish.

Well, i'll post more evidence here as I get it, but I felt since there are 5 threads already trying to help this guy, maybe someone should look out for the rest of the community.

I'm not attacking AllinVain, BTW, and I sincerely hope i'm wrong. Im simply pointing out another flaw or risk in the program. Our own gullibility.

I also welcome AllinVain to step forward and offer some real evidence, if possible, like the proof of a police report or screenshots from his logfiles. I don't really know what can be done to prove it, but that alone is suspicious to me.

Any thoughts, people?

Illuminati??? OMFG.... I'm out.

Don't let any firewalls hit you on the way out...

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
Swishercutter
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 210
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:01:40 AM
 #115

I have an idea.....

What if we offer AllinVain a bitcoin from everybody, if he is willing to reveal his identity to the world?

If someone loses $500,000 and does nothing to report it or disclose their true identity, then as far as i'm concerned, they don't exist and it never happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

I would be happy enough with ANY law enforcement agency verifying his complaint.  No insurance company would file a claim on theft/intentional damage unless a police report is filed (at least from my experience) otherwise whats to stop anyone from saying it.  

Sorry, I cannot hold anyone on this forum to any special treatment just because they say that it happened, I doubt anyone would believe me either.
bitplane
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 321
Merit: 250

Firstbits: 1gyzhw


View Profile WWW
June 19, 2011, 02:19:22 AM
 #116

How do you know AllinVain just had his life ruined, and how can you be so sure, hero of the virtual nobody and defender of cybernothing?

I don't. Just like you I don't know anything, however, being in a position of not knowing I make a point of not crapping out wild speculatory accusations without evidence. Go back and read the first post in this thread, you accuse an apparent victim of being an evil person from an evil empire, illuminati and CIA, the bad guy in some absurd fantasy.

I'm just calling you out on your attention-whoring drama-queenery, like every good citizen should.
bitrebel (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 251


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:23:01 AM
 #117

How do you know AllinVain just had his life ruined, and how can you be so sure, hero of the virtual nobody and defender of cybernothing?

I don't. Just like you I don't know anything, however, being in a position of not knowing I make a point of not crapping out wild speculatory accusations without evidence. Go back and read the first post in this thread, you accuse an apparent victim of being an evil person from an evil empire, illuminati and CIA, the bad guy in some absurd fantasy.

I'm just calling you out on your attention-whoring drama-queenery, like every good citizen should.

Well then thanks for helping by bumping the post.  Kiss

Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores?
Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
finack
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 126
Merit: 10


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:23:10 AM
 #118

I just have one question: Do you go to college to become a conspiracy researcher or do they offer on the job training?
gigabytecoin
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 252


View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:39:33 AM
 #119

I just have one question: Do you go to college to become a conspiracy researcher or do they offer on the job training?

LOL.

Seriously...

Guys calm down.

OP sits in his parents basement and smokes more drugs than is good for him...

Probably hasn't been outside in years.
jatajuta
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 365
Merit: 250



View Profile
June 19, 2011, 02:39:48 AM
 #120

I just have one question: Do you go to college to become a conspiracy researcher or do they offer on the job training?

No man, in the college they teach you how to become a good and honest taxpayer.

For security, your account has been locked. Email acctcomp15@theymos.e4ward.com
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!