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April 12, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.





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April 12, 2017, 08:05:19 PM
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It's a Samsung card you can easily get 29-30MH/s+ with a simple vbios, PM me if you want to buy a modded rom.

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April 12, 2017, 09:21:37 PM
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send  ur rom, i will edit it for u, and will teach u how to use wattool ( For free )
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April 13, 2017, 01:51:54 AM
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Thanks. PM sent.

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April 13, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
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Actually, which memory strap are you using as best for samsung 8GB?
Do You care about memory errors and clock down until the errors are about zero?
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April 13, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
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Try using benchmark to overclock this card but if you do that artifacts may showing.This is no worth time.
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April 13, 2017, 08:20:11 PM
Last edit: April 14, 2017, 10:23:08 PM by AlainC
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Hi,
I'm beginner in GPU.
I would just like to improve Ethereum Mining for my MSI RX470 4GB. (22.5MH/s on claymore)
I've seem many comments and started to prepare all.

My rig is linux (Ubuntu 16.04 with v17 AMD Pro drivers), and I have found ATIFlash for linux and saved by current bios (see below).
On my laptop I have installed Polarisseditor.

Is it enough to just use polariseditor to adjust few parameters ?it seems RAM timing are most important?
What are the "memory strap"
is it in VRAM the "timing", and how to change it ? What does the timing Hex values mean?

Is it needed to really change the bios?

I've made a pane gathering all the options available in PolarisEditor,
what should be changed, for a noticeable improvement?

Is there a safe method to tune the settings ?

I've gathered the settings in Polaris editor.
The straps seems to be the long hexadecimal values for VRAM, but I have no idea what it mean and what to change..

Code:
------------
Rom
VendorID: 0x5249
DeviceID: 0x1002
Sub ID: 0x3411
Sub VendorID: 0x1462
Firmware Signature: 0x4D4F5441

------------
Powerplay
Max GPU Freq. (MHz): 2000
Max Memory Freq. (MHz): 2100
Power Control Limit (%): 50

------------
Powertune
TDP (W): 85
TDC (A): 107
Max Power Limit (W): 110
Max Temp. (C): 90
Shutdown Temp. (C): 94
Hotspot Temp. (C): 105

------------
Fan
Temp. Hysteresis: 3
Min Temp. (C): 40
Med Temp. (C): 65
High Temp. (C): 85
Max Temp. (C): 109
Min PWM (%): 20
Med PWM (%): 40
High PWM (%): 60
Max PWM (%): 100
Max RPM: 2400
Sensitivity: 4836
Acoustic Limits (MHz): 700

------------
GPU
MHz:mV
300:800
466:65285
751:65283
1019:65284
1074:65285
1126:65268
1169:65287
1242:65288

------------
Memory
MHz:mV
300:1000
1650:1000

------------
VRAM
K4G41325FE????????
VendorId: 0x91
Size (MB):4096
Density: 0x53
Type: 0x50

Timing (MHz);Value
250 :111000000000000022CC1C00628C110B205709080DC360010020420021011420AA8800A00000000004030809160D0E0E
600 :333000000000000022CC1C00A520241940570B0B16C55103002264003A051420CA8800A0000000000906111435141710
900 :333000000000000022CC1C00E730362580570B0F9D860205002485005A091420DA8800A0000000000D08191E501B1E12
1000:333000000000000022CC1C0008B5362990570B101FC7920500448600620A14206A8900A0000000000E091C21591D2013
1125:333000000000000022CC1C0029BD472FA0570C11234853060046A6006A0C14206A8900A000000000100A202665202414
1250:333000000000000022CC1C004AC54834B0570C12A68803070046A700720E14207A8900A000000000120B232A70222714
1375:333000000000000022CC1C008CCD593AC0570D13AA09B4070048C7007A0014207A8900A002000000140D272E7B252B15
1500:555000000000000022CC1C00AD515A3EC0570E142D4A64080048C700030114207A8900A003000000150E2A3186272E16
1625:555000000000000022CC1C00CE596B44D0570F1531CB2409004AE7000B0314207A8900A003000000170F2E36922A3217
1750:777000000000000022CC1C0010626C49D0571016B50BD509004AE700140514207A8900A003000000191131399D2C3617
1900:777000000000000022CC1C00106A7D4FE0571117B98CA50A004C07011C0714207A8900A0030000001B11353FAA2F3A18
2000:777000000000000022CC1C0031EE7D53F05711183BCD350B004C0701240814207A8900A0030000001C123842B3313C19

here is my current bios:
Code:
adapter bn dn dID       asic           flash      romsize test    bios p/n    
======= == == ==== =============== ============== ======= ==== ================
   0    1F 00 67DF Ellesmere       W25X40           80000 pass 113-V34111-F4  
Adapter  0    (BN=1F, DN=00, PCIID=67DF1002, SSID=34111462)
    Asic Family        :  Ellesmere      
    Flash Type         :  W25X40      (512 KB)
    Product Name       :  113-MSITV341MH.2H1
    Bios Config File   :  66s.013        
    Bios P/N           :  113-V34111-F4  
    Bios Version       :  015.050.000.000.000000
    Bios Date          :  11/21/16 21:06
    ROM Image Type     :  Hybrid Images
    ROM Image Details  :  
        Image[0]: Size(59392 Bytes), Type(Legacy Image)
        Image[1]: Size(59392 Bytes), Type(EFI Image)

I think I missed just a few keys, but hard to connect the many comments, hint and tricks ev

If it works I think I could write the howto that could help people like me next time Cool

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April 19, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
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Hi!

I have a MSI RX 470 Armor 4g with samsung memory. Can someone help me. I'll tip some ether.
Here is my original bios:
DVNdUk/view?usp=sharing]https[Suspicious link removed]DVNdUk/view?usp=sharing

Thanks a lot!
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April 19, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
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I have advanced as beginner.
Keep a backup of your bios.

PolarisBiosEditor allows to tune few key parameters.
https://github.com/caa82437/PolarisBiosEditor (1.4 not compatible with elpida)
https://github.com/tpruvot/PolarisBiosEditor/releases/tag/1.4.1 (less tested but works with elpida)



For ETH mining usually you have to
  • copy the long hexadecimal stride VRAM Timing ate 1500 or 1650 or 1750 to all stide below. those stride are complex code to determine the timing of VRAM. copying 1500 timing into 1650 will make the ram faster at 1650MHz (but less stable). copying 1500MHz timing to 1500+ make me move from 22.5 to 23.7
  • increase the VRAM speed where it is associated with a voltage (typ you have 300MHz 1000mV and 1650MHZ/1000mV, just change 1700/1000mV or more )
  • at the same time lower the GPU max frequency nearly half at 1100MHz, 1200,1250
  • think about slightly undervolting or overvolting the VRAM or the GPU... sometime better have them evolve same way, sometime independently... this is a point where I need help

all is better explained here
http://cryptoyeti.com/rx470-bios-mod/
read also the spreadsheet there
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6vofcgy8sqJbEZHMzkwQ3gzd00
and watch the bios.
see too
http://www.overclock.net/t/1604567/polaris-bios-editing-rx480-rx470-rx460


never use someone else bios, but open then with PolarisBiosEditor.exe, and see what they changed.
go slowly, and let your mine work for a full day stable.
I was happy with a change after 1 hour of test , but when I get to bed my miner fall into "incorrect shares"...
now I go more modestly with :
GPU at 1100MHz, strides 1500 copoed to  1500MHz+ VRAM ar 1750MHz

if you brick your video card, often this mean you cannot login with video card.
I work on Unbuntu, and when my card was bricked i could only login by SSH, and I have to reflash the stockrom with linux atiflash.
It seems there is a DOS version of atiflash which work befoere windows...
on windows however you have many tools like GPU-Z and a recent tools by AMD to overclock without flashing (forgot the name).
it seems there is also a problem with windows and mod bios, because my ubuntu driver moan about bad signature of rom... and works anyway.

for those interested I've made a script to use atiflash, backup previous rom, install ne, check, backup new...
I've integrated it in my own "minerwatchdog"... when there is too many "incorrect share" in the miner log, I flash the stock prom and reboot... Frustrating to lose a night of mining because card was overclocked too much.
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April 20, 2017, 11:48:18 PM
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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.

https://preview.ibb.co/fKTarQ/Polaris_bios_editor_strap_info_1.png

https://image.ibb.co/bATEkk/MSI_RX_470_8_GB_Armor_OC_1.png


@jackbox

I have the same cards as you, did you find success in the modifications you made?
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April 21, 2017, 01:35:16 AM
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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.






@jackbox

I have the same cards as you, did you find success in the modifications you made?

I just replied to your PM. It is morning where I live.  Cool

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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.

https://preview.ibb.co/fKTarQ/Polaris_bios_editor_strap_info_1.png

https://image.ibb.co/bATEkk/MSI_RX_470_8_GB_Armor_OC_1.png


@jackbox

I have the same cards as you, did you find success in the modifications you made?

I just replied to your PM. It is morning where I live.  Cool
HI all,
I have same card,
could you help me too?

million thanks
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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.






@jackbox

I have the same cards as you, did you find success in the modifications you made?

I just replied to your PM. It is morning where I live.  Cool
HI all,
I have same card,
could you help me too?

million thanks

I sent you a download link to the modded rom which works great on my card.

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May 08, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
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What would be the best way to mod this card for better hashing rates? I see people taking about modding the bios and moving memory straps 1500 to all higher memory frequencies. Is there anything else to be done? When I run MSI Afterburner the voltage is fixed (slider disabled) and everything I have tried to enable it has failed (config file change, etc.). Here is the info from my bios. The card has Samsung memory.

https://preview.ibb.co/fKTarQ/Polaris_bios_editor_strap_info_1.png

https://image.ibb.co/bATEkk/MSI_RX_470_8_GB_Armor_OC_1.png


@jackbox

I have the same cards as you, did you find success in the modifications you made?

I just replied to your PM. It is morning where I live.  Cool
HI all,
I have same card,
could you help me too?

million thanks

I sent you a download link to the modded rom which works great on my card.

Thanks for help me doctor
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May 08, 2017, 04:30:58 PM
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Link to modded VBIOS for MSI RX 470 Armor 8GB OC. For Samsung memory only.


https://mega.nz/#!hgh0hTiK!L0hD5FNq7_FXtBXKDkT74398iyGxwhWkOtCOhcp1Ngs


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Link to modded VBIOS for MSI RX 470 Armor 8GB OC. For Samsung memory only.


https://mega.nz/#!hgh0hTiK!L0hD5FNq7_FXtBXKDkT74398iyGxwhWkOtCOhcp1Ngs


Thanks for sharing but now im not sure what I have to do
I got drivers problems.
Must I use linux to mining with it???

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/17/05/08/t58.png

https://image.ibb.co/h57w85/driver_fails.png

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Hi again,
after research a little bit Ive installed another driver version, and After burner detect it as (Crimson 16.6),
Now i can mine with better Hashrate but ive got 25.4 maximum stable. Have someone got better Hashrate with Armor card??
Are you normally setting by watttool?? or using Afterburnner???

Million Thanks
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Hi again,
after research a little bit Ive installed another driver version, and After burner detect it as (Crimson 16.6),
Now i can mine with better Hashrate but ive got 25.4 maximum stable. Have someone got better Hashrate with Armor card??
Are you normally setting by watttool?? or using Afterburnner???

Million Thanks


I am using patched Relive 16.2.1 and my hashrate in dual mining mode averages about 26.5 MH/s. Cryptomined on Youtube has a video on how to install and patch it with links to all the files.

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Hi again,
after research a little bit Ive installed another driver version, and After burner detect it as (Crimson 16.6),
Now i can mine with better Hashrate but ive got 25.4 maximum stable. Have someone got better Hashrate with Armor card??
Are you normally setting by watttool?? or using Afterburnner???

Million Thanks


I am using patched Relive 16.2.1 and my hashrate in dual mining mode averages about 26.5 MH/s. Cryptomined on Youtube has a video on how to install and patch it with links to all the files.

What hash rates are you getting on the 2nd coin? What is your dcri set to? I have 5 470 8gb that I need to mod and turn them up. Just wondering what others are getting for dual mining stats. What memory speeds are you running them at?
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What hash rates are you getting on the 2nd coin? What is your dcri set to? I have 5 470 8gb that I need to mod and turn them up. Just wondering what others are getting for dual mining stats. What memory speeds are you running them at?

I am dual mining PASC. It has a lower hashrate than DCR gets but make more money mining it. Average hash rate about 215 MH/s and the -dcri setting is 8. That is where I got the best ETH hashrate with PASC rate. I can get PASC much higher with higher -dcri but then ETH goes way down.

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