UFC 211: Miocic vs Dos Santos info and Prediction Thread

[bbc.reporter]

So who is going to fight Stipe next? I hope Cain Velasquez will come to full health very soon. A fight between them will be the causal element of who the greatest heavyweight will be in the history of the UFC. Some are saying it is still Cain while the others are now starting to think it is Stipe.

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[SaShiRaJaVu]

@bbc.reporter are you serious, a fighter who was able to defend the belt twice is considered the greatest fighter of all time. Let him start winning some fights and let him stay healthy for a couple of months and lets decide whether he can be considered the best in the world,Fabrício Werdum had a real chance to be considered the best fighter as he has defeated every fighter and look at his resume .

[Baofeng]

I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.

The Question: What Was the UFC Thinking Feeding Yair Rodriguez to Frankie Edgar?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709622-the-question-what-was-the-ufc-thinking-feeding-yair-rodriguez-to-frankie-edgar

A few points raise in the article. Nice read though. Just thought of sharing to you guys.

[Harry Callahan]

The Question: What Was the UFC Thinking Feeding Yair Rodriguez to Frankie Edgar?

It was a brutal beating at the hands of Frankie and sure it did kill all the momentum the young Yair Rodriguez had in his short MMA career,instead of feeding him to Edgar too soon they could have developed him into a good fighter and it was a disappointment as they failed miserably as a fight promoter .

[bbc.reporter]

@bbc.reporter are you serious, a fighter who was able to defend the belt twice is considered the greatest fighter of all time. Let him start winning some fights and let him stay healthy for a couple of months and lets decide whether he can be considered the best in the world,Fabrício Werdum had a real chance to be considered the best fighter as he has defeated every fighter and look at his resume .

Please read my post again. I did not say anything like that so stop assuming. What I said is a fight between Cain Velasquez and Stipe Miocic might be a causal element of making who the greatest heavyweight fighter will be in the UFC. You question Stipe? Ok let him fight Cain then let us see the result.

I saw Fabricio's resume. Stipe knocked him out easily.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@bbc.reporter the real petty sight of UFC heavy weight division is that no one was able to establish dominance over anyone for a longer period of time and you cannot consider yourself the best by winning just two fights in a row.Why i said to look at Werdum's resume is he defeated Fedor Emelianenko who is the greatest fighter of all time,defeated TRT Big Foot Silva who was really dangerous back then and then Cain Velasquez. If Stipe Miocic could defeat Cain then he wont be having much of a challenge in the division,i am looking for Francis Ngannou and i am interested to see who he will be facing next.

[tokeweed]

Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all.  And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof.  I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW.  Rightly so.  I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division?  (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).

[bbc.reporter]

@bbc.reporter the real petty sight of UFC heavy weight division is that no one was able to establish dominance over anyone for a longer period of time and you cannot consider yourself the best by winning just two fights in a row.Why i said to look at Werdum's resume is he defeated Fedor Emelianenko who is the greatest fighter of all time,defeated TRT Big Foot Silva who was really dangerous back then and then Cain Velasquez. If Stipe Miocic could defeat Cain then he wont be having much of a challenge in the division,i am looking for Francis Ngannou and i am interested to see who he will be facing next.

You should also consider that this is a time where there is USADA checking up on the fighters if they are using steroids or not. The great fighters you mention might not be very great without steroids.

You say Fabricio Werdum is great, ok he is great. But it only took Stipe 1 round to knock him out. Also I did not say Stipe will become the greatest of all time but people will start talking about it if he beats Cain.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@bbc.reporter the reason people will start talking about that after defeating Cain is simply because the heavyweight division never had a great fighter who could impose their will and dominate the entire division, for me Cain is a great fighter but is he the greatest fighter,hell no and look at the age of Werdum when he got knocked out cold,the entire division is not getting younger,that being said Miocic is a really good fighter and with the confidence and the momentum he has he could be the best heavyweight of all time if he could perform like this for a couple of years.

[Baofeng]

Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all.  And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof.  I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW.  Rightly so.  I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division?  (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).

I believed that Miocic vs Velasquez fight will really tell who is the most dominant HW fighter now. But I don't know what happen to Cain now, is he still injured or just enjoying father time? I hope he came back because I think he is still in the height of his career. I still remember his workrate fighting JDS and how he destroy him. But it Stipe Miocic time to shine now unless Cain comeback and spoils it.

[iluvbitcoins]

Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all.  And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof.  I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW.  Rightly so.  I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division?  (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).

I believed that Miocic vs Velasquez fight will really tell who is the most dominant HW fighter now. But I don't know what happen to Cain now, is he still injured or just enjoying father time? I hope he came back because I think he is still in the height of his career. I still remember his workrate fighting JDS and how he destroy him. But it Stipe Miocic time to shine now unless Cain comeback and spoils it.

Well, Stipe said he also wants to start working on a kid now so he might take some free time too 

[bbc.reporter]

@bbc.reporter the reason people will start talking about that after defeating Cain is simply because the heavyweight division never had a great fighter who could impose their will and dominate the entire division, for me Cain is a great fighter but is he the greatest fighter,hell no and look at the age of Werdum when he got knocked out cold,the entire division is not getting younger,that being said Miocic is a really good fighter and with the confidence and the momentum he has he could be the best heavyweight of all time if he could perform like this for a couple of years.

Read my post again 5 times. When did I say that Stipe Miocic is the greatest of all time? What I said was a Cain vs Stipe fight might be a causal effect that Stipe will be considered one of the greatest of all time. If you think Fabricio is more commendable to be the greatest then he should prove it by challenging Stipe. If you think he is too old then he should retire.

[krach]

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horrible card for me.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@bbc.reporter If Miocic could defend the belt for a couple of times then he can be considered as one of the best heavyweights of all time,Werdum has defeated the likes of Cain Velasquez,Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira and Fedor Emelianenko all in their prime and so he should be considered as one of the top five heavyweights of all time.